[Archived] Shaw Leaves!

[cmb211087]

Can't believe I'm being asked this in a public forum , however here goes.

Shaw has gone , end game is Venkys to go, getting information out publicly , there is no better way than court transcript.

Add into that , information shared and all that , as we are busy investigating the club.

Well now it's out there , that's another idea down the pan

Tbf you can't call him out for asking when you yourself posted on this very thread first saying that's exactly what you offered to do. If you didn't want it in public don't make it public.

[Glosrover]

I attended the preliminary hearing today as part of keeping ahead of things as per last week's EWMC meeting.

Shaw was there , with two representatives from his legal council , whilst Rovers Sent a single solicitor , who must of been a late change as he admitted during the proceedings he was not sure of the full content of the case he was presenting .

Main points, this case has been going on since June and both parties have failed to disclose to one another any evidence.

From Shaws perspective , he has taken this action which includes a number of employment issues during his time at rovers. At this stage he has not presented to the other side or the courts any supporting evidence or witness statements.

From Venkys side, they are counter claiming and have a number of their own claims , which no one knows what they are including Shaw, his representatives or the courts. They have presented no case , failed to answer any of Shaws claims, whilst their solicitor stated any correspondence from them may take 3 to 4 weeks and will be by email.

The judge stated that all cost would have to be covered by Venkys as they have not fulfilled any request asked of them.

One area which is part of the claim is interference in a transfer , which the judge was complexed, as was Shaw, as the player in question has not been disclosed by Venkys or their representation .

All in all this was typical Venkys, send someone who does not know the case , be as obstructive as possible , give the person who they sent a remit which he cannot answer for them, which again was frowned upon, whilst also being in denial and claiming to be hard done by.

Shaws delegation made it clear that mediation for an out of court settlement would not suffice , whilst Venkys solicitor could not answer the same question.

Case is now scheduled for Mid March next year.

I briefly spoke with Shaw RE witnesses, evidence etc. And made it clear that I have a number of things which may aid his case.

After orginally saying he had it covered , he said he may just take me up on that offer.

Can i ask was it made clear who the case is against? Ie is Shaw claiming against Venkys London limited, or against Blackburn Rovers Football Club? The latter would be his direct employer, in turn a subsidiary of VLL.

[CAPT KAYOS]

Can i ask was it made clear who the case is against? Ie is Shaw claiming against Venkys London limited, or against Blackburn Rovers Football Club? The latter would be his direct employer, in turn a subsidiary of VLL.

This is was my train of thought also

Surely it will be VLL but then all this will probably (predictably) fall back on Rovers anyway - ie they are not bothered at all re VLL and will just let it rot regardless as a UK equity and as they are in India probably feel they are untouchable there ( not sure of the litigation process of redress there would be directly against the loons if it is possible)

[JohnD]

Can't believe I'm being asked this in a public forum , however here goes.

Shaw has gone , end game is Venkys to go, getting information out publicly , there is no better way than court transcript.

Add into that , information shared and all that , as we are busy investigating the club.

Well now it's out there , that's another idea down the pan

Are you serious and if so why answer on an open forum and what was in the answer to ruin anything?

[OJRovers]

Shaw's claim of "interference in player transfer" will be interesting. Surely the owners have the final say on transfers?

[tomphil]

It's got to involve Rhodes surely. The word was Shaw was actively trying to sell him time and again after having played a part in getting him here. Wonder if as per rumour he stood to gain from a deal he'd set up but lost out when it was blocked at the last min so he's after compen on that ?

I hope this goes all the way and as much as Shaw is a muppet and we were all delighted he'd been ousted i suppose he's perfectly entitled to stick to his guns and haul them over the coals hopefully. The club will end up footing the bill probably but we are stuffed anyway so the more crap that comes into the open and shows V's for what they are the better imo !

[Boz]

I've not bought a Telegraph this week, but I bet this tribunal case is all over their front page, such a local public interest story, I bet they've done a real big feature on it....

Or perhaps not!

[Amo]

I've not bought a Telegraph this week, but I bet this tribunal case is all over their front page, such a local public interest story, I bet they've done a real big feature on it....

Or perhaps not!

[Jock]

Any update on the tribunal?

I saw the boss eyed tosser in Bamber Bridge B & Q. Couldn't even be bothered verbally abusing him. He looks a bit special.

[Blue blood]

Can't believe I'm being asked this in a public forum , however here goes.

Shaw has gone , end game is Venkys to go, getting information out publicly , there is no better way than court transcript.

Add into that , information shared and all that , as we are busy investigating the club.

Well now it's out there , that's another idea down the pan

You do some great work but come across childish in this post.

If you didn't want it public why not send it by pm or defer answering? Bit of an own goal on this one I'm afraid...

[Al]

I attended the preliminary hearing today as part of keeping ahead of things as per last week's EWMC meeting.

Shaw was there , with two representatives from his legal council , whilst Rovers Sent a single solicitor , who must of been a late change as he admitted during the proceedings he was not sure of the full content of the case he was presenting .

Main points, this case has been going on since June and both parties have failed to disclose to one another any evidence.

From Shaws perspective , he has taken this action which includes a number of employment issues during his time at rovers. At this stage he has not presented to the other side or the courts any supporting evidence or witness statements.

From Venkys side, they are counter claiming and have a number of their own claims , which no one knows what they are including Shaw, his representatives or the courts. They have presented no case , failed to answer any of Shaws claims, whilst their solicitor stated any correspondence from them may take 3 to 4 weeks and will be by email.

The judge stated that all cost would have to be covered by Venkys as they have not fulfilled any request asked of them.

One area which is part of the claim is interference in a transfer , which the judge was complexed, as was Shaw, as the player in question has not been disclosed by Venkys or their representation .

All in all this was typical Venkys, send someone who does not know the case , be as obstructive as possible , give the person who they sent a remit which he cannot answer for them, which again was frowned upon, whilst also being in denial and claiming to be hard done by.

Shaws delegation made it clear that mediation for an out of court settlement would not suffice , whilst Venkys solicitor could not answer the same question.

Case is now scheduled for Mid March next year.

I briefly spoke with Shaw RE witnesses, evidence etc. And made it clear that I have a number of things which may aid his case.

After orginally saying he had it covered , he said he may just take me up on that offer.

Not sure you should be helping him. What did Shaw do for us?

[Rover_Shaun]

He was a pillock but..........bigger picture

The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

[funny-old-game]

He was a pillock but..........bigger picture

The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

Most people got this from the off.

Keep it under your hat.

[MCMC1875]

Tribunal reconvenes tomorrow, Wednesday 15 March. Scheduled for 3 days.

[A cup of beans]

3 hours ago, MCMC1875 said:

Tribunal reconvenes tomorrow. Scheduled for 3 days.

If only we had someone to do a' minute by minute' report.

[RevidgeBlue]

On Thu Oct 13 2016 at 2:55 PM, glen9mullan said:

I attended the preliminary hearing today as part of keeping ahead of things as per last week's EWMC meeting.

Shaw was there , with two representatives from his legal council , whilst Rovers Sent a single solicitor , who must of been a late change as he admitted during the proceedings he was not sure of the full content of the case he was presenting .

Main points, this case has been going on since June and both parties have failed to disclose to one another any evidence.

From Shaws perspective , he has taken this action which includes a number of employment issues during his time at rovers. At this stage he has not presented to the other side or the courts any supporting evidence or witness statements.

From Venkys side, they are counter claiming and have a number of their own claims , which no one knows what they are including Shaw, his representatives or the courts. They have presented no case , failed to answer any of Shaws claims, whilst their solicitor stated any correspondence from them may take 3 to 4 weeks and will be by email.

The judge stated that all cost would have to be covered by Venkys as they have not fulfilled any request asked of them.

One area which is part of the claim is interference in a transfer , which the judge was complexed, as was Shaw, as the player in question has not been disclosed by Venkys or their representation .

All in all this was typical Venkys, send someone who does not know the case , be as obstructive as possible , give the person who they sent a remit which he cannot answer for them, which again was frowned upon, whilst also being in denial and claiming to be hard done by.

Shaws delegation made it clear that mediation for an out of court settlement would not suffice , whilst Venkys solicitor could not answer the same question.

Case is now scheduled for Mid March next year.

I briefly spoke with Shaw RE witnesses, evidence etc. And made it clear that I have a number of things which may aid his case.

After orginally saying he had it covered , he said he may just take me up on that offer.

Just seen this. What the bleedin hell are you doing offering to assist Shaw in a case against the Club?

And some people think you're a "hero."

Unbelievable.

[gumboots]

Isn't Glen offering to get stuff out in court on the record? I understand why you think it's a bit odd, Rev, (I do myself) to offer to help someone who is suing the club but if it's stuff that needs to come out and be a matter of public record, then I can just about see his point.

[Mike E]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

Just seen this. What the bleedin hell are you doing offering to assist Shaw in a case against the Club?

And some people think you're a "hero."

Unbelievable.

Perhaps because it is further evidence that Venky's are incompetent owners (court transcript can be damning), plus Shaw now has motive to screw them over just as he has.

It's a bigger picture than Rovers, Rev. Enemy of the enemy etc. We need rid of Venkys to have even the slimmest of chances of recovery.

[Dunnfc]

Just now, gumboots said:

Isn't Glen offering to get stuff out in court on the record? I understand why you think it's a bit odd, Rev, (I do myself) to offer to help someone who is suing the club but if it's stuff that needs to come out and be a matter of public record, then I can just about see his point.

Exactly this

[tomphil]

20 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Just seen this. What the bleedin hell are you doing offering to assist Shaw in a case against the Club?

And some people think you're a "hero."

Unbelievable.

I think he explained his motives at the time to be fair. The main objective has to be Venkys and partners out.

[AllRoverAsia]

It's now mid March 2017. Is the case back in Court yet I wonder. The manner in which the Vs give a V to the legal system borders on impressive.

[philipl]

Ordinarily this would be the most horrible thing possible for my beloved Blackburn Rovers to be involved in.

However, the comedy value is going to be something else if the Henning Berg case is anything to go by.

 

[47er]

On 14 October 2016 at 0:55 AM, glen9mullan said:

I attended the preliminary hearing today as part of keeping ahead of things as per last week's EWMC meeting.

Shaw was there , with two representatives from his legal council , whilst Rovers Sent a single solicitor , who must of been a late change as he admitted during the proceedings he was not sure of the full content of the case he was presenting .

Main points, this case has been going on since June and both parties have failed to disclose to one another any evidence.

From Shaws perspective , he has taken this action which includes a number of employment issues during his time at rovers. At this stage he has not presented to the other side or the courts any supporting evidence or witness statements.

From Venkys side, they are counter claiming and have a number of their own claims , which no one knows what they are including Shaw, his representatives or the courts. They have presented no case , failed to answer any of Shaws claims, whilst their solicitor stated any correspondence from them may take 3 to 4 weeks and will be by email.

The judge stated that all cost would have to be covered by Venkys as they have not fulfilled any request asked of them.

One area which is part of the claim is interference in a transfer , which the judge was complexed, as was Shaw, as the player in question has not been disclosed by Venkys or their representation .

All in all this was typical Venkys, send someone who does not know the case , be as obstructive as possible , give the person who they sent a remit which he cannot answer for them, which again was frowned upon, whilst also being in denial and claiming to be hard done by.

Shaws delegation made it clear that mediation for an out of court settlement would not suffice , whilst Venkys solicitor could not answer the same question.

Case is now scheduled for Mid March next year.

I briefly spoke with Shaw RE witnesses, evidence etc. And made it clear that I have a number of things which may aid his case.

After orginally saying he had it covered , he said he may just take me up on that offer.

I know you really know what it's about Rev, but just in case, this is how Glen explained it on Oct 14th and it makes sense to me.

Its the same tactic used when Shebby was around and we found out a lot then thanks to Glen.

What I can't abide Rev is the accusation that somehow Glen is betraying "the club".

Identifying Venkys as "the club" is the biggest crime any Rovers fan can committ in my view.

[RevidgeBlue]

Just now, 47er said:

I know you really know what it's about Rev, but just in case, this is how Glen explained it on Oct 14th and it makes sense to me.

Its the same tactic used when Shebby was around and we found out a lot then thanks to Glen.

What I can't abide Rev is the accusation that somehow Glen is betraying "the club".

Identifying Venkys as "the club" is the biggest crime any Rovers fan can committ in my view.

Completely disagree. Shaw's tribunal hearing may well be the latest example of a catalogue of incompetence by the owners and if Shaw hasnt been given what he is contractually entitled to the tribunal will sort that out and award a compensatory element on top if it feels he has been wronged.

Any right minded Rovers fan however  should not WANT Shaw to get a load of compensation, they should be hoping he walks away without a penny. Let alone be assisting him with his case.

Venky's own the Club. It's stupid to pretend differently. Whilst I might want new owners I don't want every single little thing to go wrong for them as it will have a detrimental knock on effect for the Club.

I can't abide that any more than wanting us to lose, be relegated, drop down the divisions, go bust and be replaced by a phoenix outfit just to get rid of the owners etc etc.

[Mike E]

We all have our breaking points, Rev.