[Archived] Myers/cheston Dual Role

[J*B]

At least Myers gives a damn about fans and wants the best for the club. I can't think of many decisions I've disagreed with while Myers has been at the club, so I'll happily back him in his new role.

Hell, I agree a lot more with a lot of Myers work than Shaw's.

[perthblue02]

Really? This is the Indian based businessman who has been added to the board. So he can suddenly be responsible for running BRFC. If we are a club with ambitions of doing anything other than falling down the leagues this must be a full time position. Doubt that any club in the top 5 divisions in England has such a weak structure in place.

No the Indian that is on the board has been on it quite a while, if he actually exists

[VinjayV4]

Yes that would be Gandhi Babu. Haven't heard anything about what he does except he's based in India. Pasha is generally based in India as well and that won't change.

Looked other day at what former directors do out of interest since they appeared to be completely invisible. I hear Keith Lee goes to all games including youth and George Root is highly involved with the community trust.

[yoda]

Suhail Pasha as I've already told you!!!

What do you want, a Blue Peter badge for communication ?

No the Indian that is on the board has been on it quite a while, if he actually exists

Vinjay likes to point out who I mean, like I have forgot

[Baz]

Unsure either way on this, Myers does speak well at times, and at least he's a football fan. Are there any Concerns with his health still, he was off for quite a while last season. Cheston to be fair appears to be doing ok in his role, but don't know a lot about him.

Id agree with Ste B though, all decisions are made in India anyway.

[McClarky]

So if someone else is taking the decisions other than the directors is that a good thing? Why can't we just have a proper board of directors who can challenge and hold to account a proper management set up who can gert on with the job of saving the club/ There is always something going on behind the scenes, always something shadey about this club. Nothing is ever straight forward apart from the fact that we are still going backwards and will while we are owned by these useless incompetents.

[Hasta]

Shaw was doing bugger all. By all accounts he didn't sack bowyer and didn't interview, attract or appoint Lambert. This shows that nobody in the UK is in charge.

Venkys aren't that hands on which means that Pasha is making the big calls and big decisions. This we already knew.

Therefore what's the point in having Shaw who, having been marginalised by Pasha, is pointless.

We still have to have someone in charge of day to day actions in the UK hence this decision. We were not going to get a proper MD in as Pasha is calling the shots but doesn't want to be based in the UK to do it full time.

It's not a great situation but we are slightly better for not have Shaw around the place.

(All opinion)

[Pedro]

That once again, we have not replaced a position that we need to. Have we learned nothing from the last 5 years?

Still, just keep smiling Pedro. Thinking positive will solve everything.

Once again, Lambert has become the only positive thing about this club right now. His reputation means a lot of people are putting their faith in him.

You are currently a glass was half empty but it slipped out your grasp and cut your toes kind of bloke Stuart - which you are wholly entitled to be.

From my point of view I'm not sure how getting rid of a guy who was allegedly paid 180k a year for a few hours work a week (and some stated he useless) can be twisted into a negative.

But that's sometimes the nature of BRFCC.COM I suppose.

[Rover_Shaun]

Its not being twisted into a negative meerly pointed out that a positive has now become a neutral situation, hell it can even be argued that its now a status quo after this amateurish and reckless decision. One clown replaced with another wage thief in Myers and the club will continue to lurch towards the abyss.I wonder if hes any nearer to answering the question "what do you do?"

This club will never learn under the current owners and is fkd whilst they remain

[Stuart]

You are currently a glass was half empty but it slipped out your grasp and cut your toes kind of bloke Stuart - which you are wholly entitled to be.

From my point of view I'm not sure how getting rid of a guy who was allegedly paid 180k a year for a few hours work a week (and some stated he useless) can be twisted into a negative.

But that's sometimes the nature of BRFCC.COM I suppose.

I'm actually a full glass kind of a guy. The new dawn of Lambert arriving is slowly turning into 'as you were' from Venkys. No problem with Shaw leaving but he needed to be replaced by a good appointment. Instead we promote from within - because Venkys have a great track record where that's concerned.

At the moment I'm clinging to the fact that we have Lambert. He is the only upgrade in 5 years. If he were to leave tomorrow, we'd be royally screwed.

[Mike E]

170k less per year and Myers/Cheston will do in the meantime for 5 days what they already do for 4 days.

That's about head and tail of it. Reckon Pasha may be installed as MD eventually.

[VinjayV4]

http://www.rovers.co.uk/news/article/booker-bmw-3-game-series-2937867.aspx

Think this was a little overlooked. Special offer for MK Dons, Middlesbrough and the biggest club in the world. For those who have a ticket for the postponed fixture its explained in the link. Be good if the ticket site link would work not been too impressed with errors on there recently. Alternative to the BMW offer (one off usage) would have been good if you can't drive.

Pasha won't be MD. Hasta is right and already said so myself as well.

[Baz]

http://www.rovers.co.uk/news/article/booker-bmw-3-game-series-2937867.aspx

Think this was a little overlooked. Special offer for MK Dons, Middlesbrough and the biggest club in the world. For those who have a ticket for the postponed fixture its explained in the link. Be good if the ticket site link would work not been too impressed with errors on there recently. Alternative to the BMW offer (one off usage) would have been good if you can't drive.

Pasha won't be MD. Hasta is right and already said so myself as well.

Good 3 game deal, although should have been done when Lambert was appointed to get people lined up for half season tickets.

Believe the fa cup game is a £20 ticket too.

But nothing for season ticket holders....

[yoda]

http://www.rovers.co.uk/news/article/booker-bmw-3-game-series-2937867.aspx

Think this was a little overlooked. Special offer for MK Dons, Middlesbrough and the biggest club in the world. For those who have a ticket for the postponed fixture its explained in the link. Be good if the ticket site link would work not been too impressed with errors on there recently. Alternative to the BMW offer (one off usage) would have been good if you can't drive.

Pasha won't be MD. Hasta is right and already said so myself as well.

He would have to get a work permit, that would be difficult

[Amo]

http://www.rovers.co.uk/news/article/booker-bmw-3-game-series-2937867.aspx

Think this was a little overlooked. Special offer for MK Dons, Middlesbrough and the biggest club in the world. For those who have a ticket for the postponed fixture its explained in the link. Be good if the ticket site link would work not been too impressed with errors on there recently. Alternative to the BMW offer (one off usage) would have been good if you can't drive.

Pasha won't be MD. Hasta is right and already said so myself as well.

That's ridiculous.

If anyone knows of a kid who'd like to watch these games, please let me know. I'd love to donate a ticket.

[VinjayV4]

That's ridiculous.

If anyone knows of a kid who'd like to watch these games, please let me know. I'd love to donate a ticket.

What's ridiculous? Pasha?

[Amo]

What's ridiculous? Pasha?

No, the offer. £30 for three games? Regardless of our current position, fans should be biting the club's hand off for that.

[VinjayV4]

No, the offer. £30 for three games? Regardless of our current position, fans should be biting the club's hand off for that.

Well I'm taking it

[AggyBlue]

But nothing for season ticket holders....

A kick in the nuts.

Happens every season.

[Mike E]

Good 3 game deal, although should have been done when Lambert was appointed to get people lined up for half season tickets.

Believe the fa cup game is a £20 ticket too.

But nothing for season ticket holders....

Eh? I think a full season for under £15 per game is good enough without begging for more discount

[tomphil]

I share this sentiment. At the same time they have sold off most of the value in the squad whilst making the fans believe it's all great.

Rhodes

Gestede

Cairney

King

Olsson

Have all left since the Summer. Those of any pedigree who have come in have been loanees.

Come the Summer we could have 15 first teamers on the books.

If Lambert wasn't in charge I think there would be a very different mood indeed.

Maybe they are just finally getting a grip of things after now having capable people they trust advising them and running the show.

Only reason I brought it up is it has lots of similarities to when the trust were preparing for sale. Seemingly happily sleepwalking into the embargo gave the right scenario to really start cost cutting and flogging players. Yes some wanted to go but as likely they'd have been flogged anyway. Then we have the hiring of a experienced manager and staff who should be capable of keeping the team competitive and bringing players in to do so whilst on a negative budget. Shades of Big Sam & co.

That might seem expensive but it's not really when 20 mill of players have recently been sold to get the books in order or claw some cash back. Then we have the streamlining of the board and advisors from outside brought in, same again as before. Next maybe a push on trying to get the crowd ave up a bit with cheap deals.

Not saying it's going to happen and if it did it won't be next week more likely in the summer and it was always suspected they'd leave after the parachutes finish. Perhaps they are going to go for it in the summer but I'm very sceptical on that, if you were going to prepare for a sale this is exactly the way you'd go about it and you have to seriously ask after years of neglect and basically ignoring it all of a sudden out of the blue it gets all this attention. Why?

No conspiracy before the believers get upset it's just a feeling I have looking at the bigger picture.

[VinjayV4]

I don't want to spend too much time talking about the subject of takeovers ( ) but lets say your theory is correct. The problem is they can't exactly just leave plus they certainly wouldn't do a "Hayward" (though he did have other funding stipulations which Venky's certainly wouldn't) and let it go for virtually nothing. They would almost certainly be looking for an 8 figure deal probably in the region between 10-20 million at least. If a smaller club like Bolton Wanderers is looking to sell for 15 million (reportedly) in their precarious position then Venkys are hardly likely to go lower. Wouldn't it be expected that the first people they might turn too would be Seneca? If its about business would they let previous disagreements prevent any dialogue between the 2 parties? Even if it meant looking elsewhere and in all likelihood a much longer wait? I'm not sure what Seneca's financial position is but the impression they gave before was that a deal could be struck.

Its hardly likely to be easy. I certainly don't think "nobody will ever buy Rovers" as many used to say to me but you would expect it to be much harder as a Championship club. That's how I've always felt and potential relegation was a major reason for my pro takeover stance knowing it would be harder to sell. The 2 likeliest owners in football are profit makers (in England that would apply to only a few Premier League clubs and would anyone looking at profit from the new Tv deal gamble on winning promotion first?) or benefactors. Of course their is always the chance of getting total clowns such as Venkys as well. I believe relegation was inevitable under the previous neglectful ownership but it almost certainly wouldn't have been in 2011/2012.

Then there is the matter of the cretins at UEFA and scumbag clubs like United that want to prevent cases like Chelsea, City and of course Rovers. in Chelsea's case they were already a Champions League club so it took only half the time to turn them into champions. As for City I'm not sure that level of backing and truly unlimited funding will ever be topped. The benefactor model would be less likely now thanks to FUP (if you insist on calling it FFP then at least make it stand for f*** f****** Platini!) unless its completely scrapped at some point. That probably won't be this year. If the Qataris had taken over a few years ago (or Ali Syed had he been the real deal and not a conman) then their impact would have been most likely diluted. It still would have been FAR FAR superior to Venkys in all likelihood and in the best case scenario (albeit unlikely) similar to what Leicester have achieved. Leicester might still be looking at a fine for the 2013/2014 season thanks to the disgusting FUP sanctions.

I believe Venkys will still be here for the 2016/2017 season and probably beyond. If they succeed in gaining promotion that's probably the time to start asking takeover questions. If indeed that is the case I'll probably leave it to other people for the most part lol.

[VinjayV4]

No, the offer. £30 for three games? Regardless of our current position, fans should be biting the club's hand off for that.

Just to point out this offer isn't available online as I realised when the "buy now" option wouldn't work. Just in the Ewood store, town centre store or by phone.

[dingles staying down 4ever]

Can't understand people getting upset about a potential saving of £150-200,000 per annum. Remember this bloke cost us millions whilst working one day a week. The club need not have to a professional joke puppet so Shaw does not need replacing.

I think there is a now structure in place but with the top people in India rather than Blighty. In today's modern world with communications I can't see much of a problem to be honest.

The one concern is the health of Myers after lengthy absence due to ill health previously.

[Iceman]

Why does this feel like the manager situation all over again? Manager gets sacked, next person is nice, and Venkys says okay you try now. I hope this is just temporary until the end of the season, but I've seen something like this before