[Archived] Rovers V Derby County (Away) - 24Th February 2016 - 7.45 Ko

[yoda]

... and another thing.

Lambert needs grilling hard on why he rested key players on Sunday all for nothing except to disillusion the Blackburn public even further. .

That's if we had a local press that knew how to ask searching questions.

Can you not give them some lessons Jim

[Darwen Rover 007]

Jus got back to Leicestershire. We played well. Dead unlucky to lose overall. The scored an early goal, well struck from outside of area but resulting from sloppy marking. After that we slowly came into game. Graham , in particular, looked good. Held the ball up well, with good energy and got in and around them. Midfield form 25 mins in looked in control.

And man the chances!

The difference between the 2 sides was that 1 finish. Graham, Bennett and Marshall (x2) guilty of poor decision making when in excellent positions.

Drove home with 2 Derby fans and they felt we deserved to win the game.

Really impressed with work rate and pressing.

Lenihan and Evans played well, Grimes off pace, sadly ,but first game.

More reasons to be optimistic than not with performance, and while yes we didn't score, we really should have.

I counted 11 good chances to their 4.

Encouraging if you ask me... Not ideal that we did t win but going to both Boro and Derby and playing very well are very encouraging signs...

[47er]

Good to hear from someone at the game to give a bit perspective on the game

And it sure sounds like progress to me! We have had this problem of not taking our chances all season, even with Rhodes but we are hardly conceding and we won't be relegated!

[jim mk2]

Jus got back to Leicestershire. We played well. Dead unlucky to lose overall. T

Sorry, but playing well and losing is the sign of a bad team and relegation form.

Any fan would tell you they'd rather play poorly and nick a 1-0.

Burnley did it to us at Ewood and they're going up.

[DaveyB]

Encouraging if you ask me... Not ideal that we did t win but going to both Boro and Derby and playing very well are very encouraging signs...

Just as encouraging as when we played the dingles off the park back in October, but, now same as then, performances ultimately count for nothing. It's results that we need to see improvement in, and quick because 1 win in 11 is relegation form make no mistake about it

[patrickvalery]

Sorry, but playing well and losing is the sign of a bad team and relegation form.

Any fan would tell you they'd rather play poorly and nick a 1-0.

Burnley did it to us at Ewood and they're going up.

Na that's the exception and not the rule Jim. No team has ever been promoted by playing badly and grabbing a 1-0 win every week.

I can see the positive in playing well and being unfortunate. Or at least I could if I felt we might keep the same level of performance up week in week out. And therein lies the problem. But I think we've got enough to steer clear of the drop.

[VinjayV4]

And I forgot to mention the ref.

In 40yrs of watching Rovers the red, in first half was the most one sided, home crowd pleasing decision maker I've ever seen. It was ridiculous, and actually laughable at times

The commentators mentioned the ref and were not impressed with him or Championship refereeing in general.

Interesting quote here (article a bit dated about a year ago) from Allardyce actually aimed at Williams...

"It’s time that John Williams, the chairman of the Professional Game Match Officials Ltd, plus the FA and the Premier League, sat down and talked about how they can improve things."

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/sam-allardyce-refereeing-nearing-crisis-i-cannot-say-what-i-really-think-that-speaks-volumes-10074462.html

[RevidgeBlue]

Last season's squad was significantly better this. Gestede,King(rarely picked), Cairney. With Rhodes as well,I really think we should have been challenging for top 6.

Compare like with like eh? This is a poor squad PL inherited----Koita,Delfy? Certain to go down under Bowyer imo.

I think we will stay up under Lambert. Like it or not, that is now progress.

Give over, last season's squad is irrelevant. You can only compare like for like, that is performances with this season's squad.

Seventeen points from sixteen games under GB Seventeen from fifteen under PL. GB was rightly sacked because results weren't good enough but there's been no improvement under PL. Eleven of those points came during his "honeymoon period". Since then it's been six points from ten games. We haven't improved,the only reason we don't look like going down is the bottom 3 have got themselves detached.

You can't use sale of players as an excuse either. Until we're told differently PL had full control over who came in and who went out in January.

[jim mk2]

Na that's the exception and not the rule Jim. No team has ever been promoted by playing badly and grabbing a 1-0 win every week.

I can see the positive in playing well and being unfortunate. Or at least I could if I felt we might keep the same level of performance up week in week out. And therein lies the problem. But I think we've got enough to steer clear of the drop.

The point is, good teams know how to win even when they're not on best form. Poor teams like us lose when they play well.

Each to their own, but I'm fed up with being good but "unfortunate". I'd rather be crap and lucky I'm also fed up with feeling rubbish because we've lost - yet again.

[bluebruce]

Every time Brown comes on or starts I think he is going to score. He is rubbish but the law of averages insists he must score at some point and he has played often enough to be well past that point. 1 of these days. I remember on here a while ago someone was arguing that he was OK and put a montage together of 3 assists he'd had last season, seriously.

And one of them was highly questionable.

[patrickvalery]

The point is, good teams know how to win even when they're not on best form. Poor teams like us lose when they play well.

Each to their own, but I'm fed up with being good but "unfortunate". I'd rather be crap and lucky I'm also fed up with feeling rubbish because we've lost - yet again.

Sorry jim. I didn't mean to sound like I misunderstood your point. It's a great quality to have to win when you don't deserve to. But we're a side who are so inconsistent that performance levels are important. If and when we're in contention at the top then that old adage comes into play. Picking up wins when undeserved. Burnley did a smash and grab job on us. But for the most part they're where they are on merit. It's the merit part I think we need to work on. Because at the moment I'd say we're where we are on merit. And that's because we've played crap football.

[Baz]

Give over, last season's squad is irrelevant. You can only compare like for like, that is performances with this season's squad.

Seventeen points from sixteen games under GB Seventeen from fifteen under PL. GB was rightly sacked because results weren't good enough but there's been no improvement under PL. Eleven of those points came during his "honeymoon period". Since then it's been six points from ten games. We haven't improved,the only reason we don't look like going down is the bottom 3 have got themselves detached.

You can't use sale of players as an excuse either. Until we're told differently PL had full control over who came in and who went out in January.

Did you see the Fulham match Rev?

I know it was a only one game, but did you not see the difference in style, particularly the pressing?

[RevidgeBlue]

Yes, we played well but everything went our way that night. We got off on the right foot with a penalty then never looked like scoring again until Duffy scored from a set piece for the first time in around 30 attempts.

Either side of that in two home games we folded like a deck of cards when the game went against us. Completely gave up. We never used to do that under the previous manager for all his faults. Overall I think we've gone backwards.

[Baz]

Yes, we played well but everything went our way that night. We got off on the right foot with a penalty then never looked like scoring again until Duffy scored from a set piece for the first time in around 30 attempts.

Either side of that in two home games we folded like a deck of cards when the game went against us. Completely gave up. We never used to do that under the previous manager for all his faults. Overall I think we've gone backwards.

Undoubtedly we are struggling, mainly due to a lack of quality, but I do think we are also attempting to try to fundamentally change the way we play, instead of sitting back and hoping something drops for us, I think we are trying to work harder up-top and force errors.

I think we ran out of ideas vs Hull, and don't forget we had lost Hanley, Akpan and Graham in the build up to the game, but I don't agree we gave up. I wouldn't disagree vs Wham.

We definitely need more creativity, but also we look like a team so short of confidence too and at times that's easier to solve away from the pressure of a home game.

Get a couple of wins to make sure we stay up, and we might see a difference.

[JAL]

Who scored ?

Should have played Birdy and Pittard....!

[47er]

Give over, last season's squad is irrelevant. You can only compare like for like, that is performances with this season's squad.

Seventeen points from sixteen games under GB Seventeen from fifteen under PL. GB was rightly sacked because results weren't good enough but there's been no improvement under PL. Eleven of those points came during his "honeymoon period". Since then it's been six points from ten games. We haven't improved,the only reason we don't look like going down is the bottom 3 have got themselves detached.

You can't use sale of players as an excuse either. Until we're told differently PL had full control over who came in and who went out in January.

Come off it Rev! Who brought up last season under Bowyer and made a comparison with this season? YOU DID!

Its perfectly appropriate for me to point out the relative strengths of last year's squad which Bowyer bungled imo as compared to this season's, something that Lambert had no control over whatsoever.

I'm not blindly following Lambert by the way, next season he has to improve our situation significantly or his appointment will have been a failure (another one). Till then we have to back him to the hilt. Its not as if we have any alternative.

For a start Venkys won't give him any backing in the summer if we the supporters don't.

[Parsonblue]

A dreadful game with two very average teams who are both light years away from Premier League standard. Add to that a referee who was utterly inept - even by the standards of the Championship officials - and it all added up to a dismal night in Derby. Marshall was by far and away our best player. A night to forget.

Points Paul, points:

http://mobile.rovers.co.uk/news/article/blackburn-rovers-derby-county-paul-lambert-2972356.aspx

'Peppering their goal' seems to be pushing the truth having seen the highlights.

We had two shots on goal where the 'keeper made a save. The first came after sixty minutes from Graham and then a super free-kick from Marshall. If that's peppering the goal heaven help us.

[RevidgeBlue]

For a start Venkys won't give him any backing in the summer if we the supporters don't.

The garbage (Gomez apart) he's brought in this January won't help either.

[JAL]

The garbage (Gomez apart) he's brought in this January won't help either.

You can't say fairer than that rev!

[Husky]

This season is all out Burnley away.

...and the 6 Nations rugby and T20 cricket WC for much needed distractions.

I do feel sorry for those fans that like footy only.

[AllRoverAsia]

A dreadful game with two very average teams who are both light years away from Premier League standard. Add to that a referee who was utterly inept - even by the standards of the Championship officials - and it all added up to a dismal night in Derby. Marshall was by far and away our best player. A night to forget.

We had two shots on goal where the 'keeper made a save. The first came after sixty minutes from Graham and then a super free-kick from Marshall. If that's peppering the goal heaven help us.

Blackburn Rovers manager Paul Lambert:

"I am proud of the way we played, there's a way to lose a game and I thought we were excellent. We have been playing well for a few weeks, there were some big performances, and I think the lads are starting to play. We had some great positions and maybe the one thing you could say was we never had the right weight of pass or the right decision. But other than that, for work rate and endeavour, we couldn't ask for any more."

[otto man]

Who scored ?

Should have played Birdy and Pittard.... told Ya!

Why the hell do you even pretend to support The Rovers? Time to do a "Vinjay" and naff off and do a bit of glory hunting. You'd be far better suited as a plastic.

[sharpysharps]

Disapointing but unsurprising result. When was the last time we won at Derby? Must've been the 5-2 FA Cup win back in 2001 surely. That aside, sounds like Rovers played well enough to get something but there are legitimate reasons we are 19th in the league and one of them is the defensive lapses that cost us sloppy goals.

MK Dons game now as huge as the Fulham game.

How did Matt Grimes get on?

[Ricky]

Leave me alone

FFS Chaddy, he replied to a comment you made! It's a message board, that's what people tend to do!!!

[Parsonblue]

Blackburn Rovers manager Paul Lambert:

"I am proud of the way we played, there's a way to lose a game and I thought we were excellent. We have been playing well for a few weeks, there were some big performances, and I think the lads are starting to play. We had some great positions and maybe the one thing you could say was we never had the right weight of pass or the right decision. But other than that, for work rate and endeavour, we couldn't ask for any more."

We were listening to that on the way home - it was the best laugh of the night. I assume not having the right weight of pass is the technical term for not being able to pass from A to B.