[Archived] Mk Dons At Home

[oldjamfan1]

Two wins in the last two home games- albeit a VERY fortunate one yesterday. Can't do much better than that. I'll ignore the away hammering in between because I can't comment as I didn't see it.

Which away hammering was that then Stuart?

[chor808]

I have cringed when hearing Brown ironically cheered off in the past (wasn't at the game yesterday) but do think some go over the top in their description of the "abuse" he receives. The man gets paid around half a million pounds a year for being a pants footballer and I don't see why the paying customer should be afraid of jeering him stealing a living, no matter how hard he tries. If you paid to go and see a show at the theatre and some of the cast members were so woefully out of place that they were fluffing the entire performance, what would you do? Chances are you'd either walk out, jeer or reach for the bucket of rotten veg at your feet. Why should it be any different when it comes to footballers (who earn a damn sight more than most performers)?

There is of course a line where jeering becomes abuse. It seems to be ok when supporter frustrations are aimed at a referee or an opposition player/manager and perhaps some fans take issue with others criticising "one of our own", though plenty of managers have been on the end of far worse than Brown has, from their own supporters too. I am sure most fans, even those critical of those booing Brown, have shouted the odd derogatory comment at their own players. Go to any game and hundreds/thousands of fans will shout something at some point. Whether it be lamenting a misplaced pass or poor finish. Even the best striker we've had in recent years would get shouts of how he's sh*te and doesn't do anything but score (probably from a few members on here...) so what do people expect the reception to be for a man who might well run around after the opposition but often seems unfit and has been for years, fails to put any effort into finding positions off the ball, doesn't set up his teammates, can't score for toffee and rarely contributes even half as much as Rhodes did to a game?! But he gets a free ride from some because just because he tries?!

Brown is THAT bad that near enough every fan in the ground simultaneously moans when he does something wrong (often). It's pretty unavoidable that he's going to hear it but what should everyone do? Just keep schtum and clap Browny on as this millionaire runs around like a headless chicken? When the man ACTUALLY starts to receive abuse, then I'd understand the concerns and criticisms of fellow fans. I just think some are too overly PC with their reactions to the criticisms of players and the comparisons to Robert Enke. Not to take away from the cases of Enke and other professionals who have suffered similar but what we are seeing with Brown is a different kettle of fish entirely. Soon the suggestion will be to never jeer a misplaced pass just in case one of the darlings gets upset.

As I said, there's a line between criticism and genuine abuse and I believe BRFC fans are yet to cross it when it comes to Brown. If he's that upset about getting jeered for being promoted above his station (and earning a killing in the process I might add), he should take a pay-cut, ply it out in League Two or below and he can be a hero without any nasty Wovers fans telling him he's pants. If someone offered me ten grand a week to keep myself in tip-top condition (more than could be said for Brown) and play football despite my limited ability, I'd run around for 90 minutes a week and take all the boos and abuse you could throw at me... And you know what? I'd still be laughing when I checked my bank balance after full time.

My thoughts entirely mustard. Never heard such rubbish and over reaction by some. Kean out - ohhh I hope he's not upset, bowyer sort it out - oh no he's crying. Not long back we were all called Rovers Fans ffs, we have had five years of crap whilst some got or are getting rich off that crap. Brown, well good luck to him next season as he won't be here.

[Neal]

Imagine if Brown scores against that lot...

[Parsonblue]

I could be wrong but wasn't Brown crocked when we got him. If so the responsibility lies with the management team at that time.

I seem to recall that he got injured in pre-season training and has since had a couple of operations on the same knee. I spoke to him at Cardiff earlier in the year and believe me the guy sounded really down about his injury problems. Sadly, as with most sports, once you have a knee problem it rarely goes away. Whatever his limitations the guy always puts in a shift and at the end of the day that's all I ask of any player wearing the shirt.

[Tom]

Yawn.

Brown has Lambert's improved midfield behind him, Rhodes didn't get that opportunity and instead had to get his binoculars out to link up with his midfield. How's the higher pressing midfield working out for Brown?

Not sure the need for the snarky comment when you can check the last time yourself. And such vitriol when we are having to watch that lummox up front is very much misplaced. He makes Jason Roberts look like Thierry Henry.

I see Rhodes' badly timed departure as a lose-lose for both him and Rovers, and a missed opportunity. But we move on.

Two wins in the last two home games- albeit a VERY fortunate one yesterday. Can't do much better than that. I'll ignore the away hammering in between because I can't comment as I didn't see it.

I don't see yesterday as very fortunate at all, had the officials done their jobs we would have been comfy in reality. We left it late for sure but justice was done in the end.

[mustard]

Imagine if Brown scores against that lot...

Let's hope he does a Di Santo. Zero to hero if he wins us the game!

[Davenport Nice]

I respect but don't agree with people who think it's ok to both jeer Brown and sing "we're f'in @#/?".

what i do object to is those people who do that but then sit on their hands for the rest of the time. The atmosphere is usually regarded as being part of going to the football. Irrespective of what's going on, on the pitch, there's nothing stopping anyone singing positively.

In my opinion it's nothing like going to the theatre as people often say. there's two teams competing against eachother and noone knows what the 'plot' is going to be.

It's the 'Blackburn default position' toi enjoy hating and criticising their own.

Many of the jeerers yesterday were just bandwagon jumpers and just having a laugh rather than being genuinely annoyed.

[chor808]

I respect but don't agree with people who think it's ok to both jeer Brown and sing "we're f'in @#/?".

what i do object to is those people who do that but then sit on their hands for the rest of the time. The atmosphere is usually regarded as being part of going to the football. Irrespective of what's going on, on the pitch, there's nothing stopping anyone singing positively.

In my opinion it's nothing like going to the theatre as people often say. there's two teams competing against eachother and noone knows what the 'plot' is going to be.

It's the 'Blackburn default position' toi enjoy hating and criticising their own.

Many of the jeerers yesterday were just bandwagon jumpers and just having a laugh rather than being genuinely annoyed.

I think you are right in normal times however we have all been ground down over the last 5 years or so. Also this home game came on the back of a home thrashing with a weak team, really us that still turn up really are the hard core of fans that the team and performances need to turn us round.

[USABlue]

Yawn.

Brown has Lambert's improved midfield behind him, Rhodes didn't get that opportunity and instead had to get his binoculars out to link up with his midfield. How's the higher pressing midfield working out for Brown?

Not sure the need for the snarky comment when you can check the last time yourself. And such vitriol when we are having to watch that lummox up front is very much misplaced. He makes Jason Roberts look like Thierry Henry.

I see Rhodes' badly timed departure as a lose-lose for both him and Rovers, and a missed opportunity. But we move on.

Two wins in the last two home games- albeit a VERY fortunate one yesterday. Can't do much better than that. I'll ignore the away hammering in between because I can't comment as I didn't see it.

Yawn really. You are spot on there. Mute point about our midfield really since I thought the question was are we a better team since Rhodesy left. Yourself amd Rev wondered wher on earth the goals would come from didn't you? My comment was not intended as sarky, I really don't know the best way to find that info, I thought you might actually know. Was a nice politicians way of dodging the question though. Yawn as an initial response might be taken as sarcy.

I won't bother you again about Rhodes anymore, no point, you are stuck on your opinion. I often value your opinions. Perhaps I'll type an occasional yawn when you inevitably bring up his name again.

I have one more question, is Boro and their scoresheet now the first after match info you look for? Tuesday should be interesting.

[Hasta]

I don't see yesterday as very fortunate at all, had the officials done their jobs we would have been comfy in reality. We left it late for sure but justice was done in the end.

If they had done their job, they should have sent Brown off for that late, late lunge which was shin high early in the second half. His studs weren't showing but other than that it was reckless and out of control.

[mustard]

I respect but don't agree with people who think it's ok to both jeer Brown and sing "we're f'in @#/?".

what i do object to is those people who do that but then sit on their hands for the rest of the time. The atmosphere is usually regarded as being part of going to the football. Irrespective of what's going on, on the pitch, there's nothing stopping anyone singing positively.

In my opinion it's nothing like going to the theatre as people often say. there's two teams competing against eachother and noone knows what the 'plot' is going to be.

It's the 'Blackburn default position' toi enjoy hating and criticising their own.

Many of the jeerers yesterday were just bandwagon jumpers and just having a laugh rather than being genuinely annoyed.

Some fans only seem to wake up when it's going rubbish. The flat atmosphere at Ewood is infuriating. Some try and get songs going but the majority of the ground remains silent and even when we're winning people can't be bothered singing. I'm often miffed with the football but a better atmosphere would make attending the game slightly more enjoyable at least.

I don't like the songs inferring how pants we are. In some situations it might be funny but I haven't liked hearing it recently. I think any chants for Lambert's Rovers should be in support of the team, though boos and jeers are to be expected for poor performances/lack of effort. Keep the players on board til summer, let Lambert clear out the dross and hope he has the investment necessary to improve the squad. We could have an entirely different looking team come the start of next season and I am sure the fans will get behind them. Unfortunately, there are too many chancers still lurking amongst the ranks but I am sure PL knows what is necessary.

[Stuart]

Yawn really. You are spot on there. Mute point about our midfield really since I thought the question was are we a better team since Rhodesy left. Yourself amd Rev wondered wher on earth the goals would come from didn't you? My comment was not intended as sarky, I really don't know the best way to find that info, I thought you might actually know. Was a nice politicians way of dodging the question though. Yawn as an initial response might be taken as sarcy.

I won't bother you again about Rhodes anymore, no point, you are stuck on your opinion. I often value your opinions. Perhaps I'll type an occasional yawn when you inevitably bring up his name again.

I have one more question, is Boro and their scoresheet now the first after match info you look for? Tuesday should be interesting.

It's not me that brings him up though, by and large. I respond to points about him and then everyone gets on their high horse. Then I reply to a post about him with an ironic 'yawn' given that people are only interested in picking me up on it - and since everyone is bored with Rhodes' talk (but seemingly only when it is me making point that people don't like) - and it gets personal.

Where are the goals coming from? Gomez by the looks of things. But we are still a one-man team, when Gomez doesn't play we look pretty ordinary.

If you really want to know (although it just seems like more bait) I look for Boro's results as much as I look at Hull's - and both after I've checked to see if Bumley have dropped points. Sadly it's not looking great on that score. Once Brown starts to find the net regularly - or even our other forwards then we can put the ghost of Rhodes to rest. Until then, he is the Elephant at Ewood Park. Very much hoping that Rhodes plays on Tuesday - but only because I think that it will make the game more personal and may force Boro to take their eye of the ball. Plus I think Duffy and Hanley will deal with him. If he doesn't play, then I think Boro will put up a very professional display and win by a couple.

And it's 'moot', not 'mute'.

[Leonard Venkhater]

It's not me that brings him up though, by and large. I respond to points about him and then everyone gets on their high horse. Then I reply to a post about him with an ironic 'yawn' given that people are only interested in picking me up on it - and since everyone is bored with Rhodes' talk (but seemingly only when it is me making point that people don't like) - and it gets personal.

Where are the goals coming from? Gomez by the looks of things. But we are still a one-man team, when Gomez doesn't play we look pretty ordinary.

If you really want to know (although it just seems like more bait) I look for Boro's results as much as I look at Hull's - and both after I've checked to see if Bumley have dropped points. Sadly it's not looking great on that score. Once Brown starts to find the net regularly - or even our other forwards then we can put the ghost of Rhodes to rest. Until then, he is the Elephant at Ewood Park. Very much hoping that Rhodes plays on Tuesday - but only because I think that it will make the game more personal and may force Boro to take their eye of the ball. Plus I think Duffy and Hanley will deal with him. If he doesn't play, then I think Boro will put up a very professional display and win by a couple.

And it's 'moot', not 'mute'.

SILENCE!

[donnermeat]

If they had done their job, they should have sent Brown off for that late, late lunge which was shin high early in the second half. His studs weren't showing but other than that it was reckless and out of control.

Plus Lenihan could have gone on his first half fouls alone. Astounded he didn't receive a booking til injury time.

I'm also not quite sure where this 10k p/w for Brown comes from? I would imagine it's no more than half that.

[Tom]

I think for everyone's sanity the forum should be shut down when Rhodes scores on Tuesday its going to be hell on here with the super witty sarcastic posts

[USABlue]

And it's 'moot', not 'mute'.

Thank you, my mistake I'll try to have my semi senile mind remember that one.

Plus Lenihan could have gone on his first half fouls alone. Astounded he didn't receive a booking til injury time.

I'm also not quite sure where this 10k p/w for Brown comes from? I would imagine it's no more than half that.

10k PW was thrown out by the Donny chairman I think. An amount scoffed at by Bowyer.

[Stuart]

Thank you, my mistake I'll try to have my semi senile mind remember that one.

you moan when your questions aren't answered and when they are you ignore it!

[chaddyrovers]

Paul Lambert said on RR that it was offside and was adamant. He must have seen it from a different angle because, like you I found it difficult to tell from what we saw on Sky. I actually thought MK Dons were lucky to finish with eleven players as I felt that Graham was clearly impeded when he had a clear and obvious goalscoring opportunity. Given what the referee had blown up for previously I can only think he 'bottled' the decision as it would have resulted in a dismissal.

I would imagine that Rovers have cameras all around the ground and would use prozone system aswell.

I thought Graham was impeded aswell. no reason to go down tbf. he had a goalscoring opportunity

By the end of the 90 minutes was it (4-1-3-2)

Steele

Henley Duffy Hanley Spurr

Lenihan

Bennett Gomez Grimes

Jackson Graham

?

after we scored the second goal yesterday, Lambert switch formation to playing 4-2-3-1 with Lenihan and Grimes in centre midfield with Jackson on the right, Gomez in the hole and Bennett on the left with Graham up front. we kept this formation for the rest of the game

No Abbey, a goal scoring team makes a difference - and thanks to the players from one to eleven now working their socks off, we've scored 11 goals (I think?) in 6 games. Seeing that you're obsessed with goals - the fact is were scoring more (and playing better albeit it still inconsistently), since we sold him. If Lambert can keep this approach to games and add more quality, we can only improve.

Exactly. we need to build a team with players all scoring and not just setting the team up for 1 player. If we are GOING to challenge for promotion then we need goals from all areas of the team.

[tomphil]

I was very disappointed with Corey Evans yesterday. Bar one run in the first half he was completely off the pace. I signalled him out for praise after the Fulham game as he was outstanding; he ran the midfield that game and that allowed others to shine.

That defensive centre mid position is so important; I believe it to be the most important position in a football team. If that player is winning his battle generally the overall team performance will be good. Conversely if he is having a poor game generally the overall team will struggle.

Yesterday Evans was invisible and ineffective. I think the team struggled as a result.

I think Evans is a very capable player. But he needs to be more consistent in that role. It is no good being outstanding one week and rubbish the next. Perhaps he was carrying an injury most of the game, although my mates and I joked that he probably had a taxi waiting to take him to Manchester for the Frampton fight when he came off!

As for Brown I do feel a little sorry for him in that he tries his best. Although I recall 2 of the worst attacking headers I've ever seen! The first was in the first half, cross from the left, he actually did a glancing header that may well have been on target, but it hit is shoulder and went in the opposite direction out of play.

The second was in the second half. Cross from the left. He was in acres of space on line with the penalty spot and the left post. He completely mistimed his header and ballooned it towards the direction of the left corner flag.

Both attempts were met by laughter from those around me!

That's just typical Evans he's very rarely strung 2 decent games together whilst he's been here. He's the very definition of average in this league I think. Looks good on his day but that's usually only when the rest of the team is performing well around him

[cesus]

Plus Lenihan could have gone on his first half fouls alone. Astounded he didn't receive a booking til injury time.

I'm also not quite sure where this 10k p/w for Brown comes from? I would imagine it's no more than half that.

I thought that watching yesterday about the amount of fouls Lenihan committed in the first half. I counted six first half fouls, two of which were pretty hefty hacks at the edge of our box when they were breaking well (about the easiest yellows a ref could give). I'm not complaining though! I also thought Browns yellow looked rather like his tackle vs Newport and when the ref walked over to check the MK player I feared the worst.

[ABBEY]

I think for everyone's sanity the forum should be shut down when Rhodes scores on Tuesday its going to be hell on here with the super witty sarcastic posts

WHY will he score most think hes crap ?

chris brown is superman

[Colt Seavers]

He looked happy and a bit of a joker. You might have missed that Ward managed to miss from about a yard after he sent a cross in and that seemed to make him take the Micky a bit.

Really hope so. He is exactly the type of player I enjoy watching. Fingers crossed he takes it all seriously enough.

With his talent he should be one of the first names on the teamsheet. He ought to have been gutted not to have had any minutes yesterday and I would like to see him knuckle down and get fit.

We shall see...

Imagine if Brown scores against that lot...

I will stick my neck out and say he won't start another game for us. Taylor either, or Williamson for that matter.

[Damien]

Which poster on here was it who said that someone linked to GB said if they had the transfer kitty which had been promised to PL they would have killed this league?

[the original david brent]

Which poster on here was it who said that someone linked to GB said if they had the transfer kitty which had been promised to PL they would have killed this league?

Mani

[Damien]

Ah ok... Well mani might have been onto something.

Had a good chat on Saturday with someone at ewood in the premier suite. They told me it's expected PL has circa £15m to spend this summer.

He also said Lambert is happy leaving the squad as it is until the end of the season and is looking to bolster the squad then!