[Archived] Eu Referendum, In Or Out - Looks Like Blackburn Wants Out !

[Beta Ray Bill]

Great bit of scare mongering by Brexiter MP Andrew Rosindell yesterday on 5Live Drive yesterday.

When talking about Gibraltar he came out with the classic that staying in the EU would lead to the Ministry of Defence disappearing.

Thought it was a NewsThump story at first but he was being serious.

[yoda]

Great bit of scare mongering by Brexiter MP Andrew Rosindell yesterday on 5Live Drive yesterday.

When talking about Gibraltar he came out with the classic that staying in the EU would lead to the Ministry of Defence disappearing.

Thought it was a NewsThump story at first but he was being serious.

The EU army has been discussed in Brussels, every chance it could come about

[Al]

Great bit of scare mongering by Brexiter MP Andrew Rosindell yesterday on 5Live Drive yesterday.

When talking about Gibraltar he came out with the classic that staying in the EU would lead to the Ministry of Defence disappearing.

Thought it was a NewsThump story at first but he was being serious.

The Brexiteers are entitled to a bit of B/S to combat the wall of B/S put out by the ones who want to stay in the EU. In any case that is not beyond the realms of possibllity..

[Beta Ray Bill]

The EU army has been discussed in Brussels, every chance it could come about

About as much chance the MoD vanishing as French being adopted as the only permissable language.

[yoda]

About as much chance the MoD vanishing as French being adopted as the only permissable language.

French is the language of the EU, all documents are produced in French

[only2garners]

French is a language of the EU.

The European Commission works in three procedural languages - English, French and German. All important documents are produced in all 24 EU languages.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Who are the Brexiteers ?

To judge from the ones I've met in the main they are angry, bitter old men (not women) hankering after an England (not Britain) that no longer exists and is never going to return. They have resented immigrants from the 1950s when the first started to arrive in numbers and they do not understand the globalised nature of the modern world and the need for free movement of peoples that comes with it.

The problem for the Remain camp is that the age group mostly likely to affected by a Brexit (because they will be paying the economic price for decades to come) are the millennials, and polls show that although young people are overwhelmingly in favour of the EU because of general apathy over politics and the voting process they are also the group that is least likely to vote on June 23. Persuading these young people to come out and vote is the prime task of the Remainers.

Hahaha one of the notoriously unreliable opinion polls say his side's losing and the gloves come off and the dummy is spat halfway across the room.

So we've heard your phenomenally biased, highly prejudiced and on the whole garbage opinion of who Leave campaigners are. Based not on people you've met I suspect but on your own bitter ideas of what one should be. Who are the Stay voters and what are they like? Oh you're one, decision made.

[JAL]

If British law was so good then why do many UK nationals have to keep running to Europe for justice ?

[yoda]

If British law was so good then why do many UK nationals have to keep running to Europe for justice ?

Because the European court of justice is separate from the EU

[jim mk2]

Hahaha one of the notoriously unreliable opinion polls say his side's losing and the gloves come off and the dummy is spat halfway across the room.

So we've heard your phenomenally biased, highly prejudiced and on the whole garbage opinion of who Leave campaigners are. Based not on people you've met I suspect but on your own bitter ideas of what one should be. Who are the Stay voters and what are they like? Oh you're one, decision made.

If in doubt throw insults. Argument lost.

[yoda]

I wonder if this weasel was pro EU or anti EU

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36173247

[Paul]

While the EU debate focuses on the big, big picture I think it's worth reminding people the EU also deals with little everyday things which directly impact you and me.

As from June 2017 monthly call allowances will be valid across the EU. Data roaming will disappear. As from today charges are capped and should result in 75% savings for users.

[JAL]

Because the European court of justice is separate from the EU

So will coming out of the EU block this path for UK citizens.

[oldjamfan1]

While the EU debate focuses on the big, big picture I think it's worth reminding people the EU also deals with little everyday things which directly impact you and me.

As from June 2017 monthly call allowances will be valid across the EU. Data roaming will disappear. As from today charges are capped and should result in 75% savings for users.

You see, this is the kind of information that will influence the outcome of the referendum, stuff that actually impacts on peoples' everyday lives. This snippet alone would, I'm certain, convince plenty to tick the 'remain' box. I'm not suggesting this is a valid reason to do so on its own, but it will.

So will coming out of the EU block this path for UK citizens.

It shouldn't do JAL.

[yoda]

So will coming out of the EU block this path for UK citizens.

No

[JAL]

If

[Al]

If in doubt throw insults. Argument lost.

It's looking more like argument won from my viewpoint.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

If in doubt throw insults. Argument lost.

Its incredible that you can't see that's exactly what you did in the post I quoted.

[Mike E]

Its incredible that you can't see that's exactly what you did in the post I quoted.

Not that incredible. He likes to throw insults around and pretend he doesn't.

[Biddy]

I am beginning to like Dennis Skinner. Currently reading his book as suggested by GAV and have got to this section:

"The desire to improve the lives of the working people in Britain is why I remain resolutely against the Common Market, the ultimate capitalist club. I was against it well before Nigel Farage and that mob started UKIP"

He goes on...

"My objection in principle to the European project is about its implementation of the free movement of capital and labour, the undiluted capitalism at the heart of the Common Market project. Employers undermine wages and employment conditions, shifting production to its lowest cost countries."

[Al]

I am beginning to like Dennis Skinner. Currently reading his book as suggested by GAV and have got to this section:

"The desire to improve the lives of the working people in Britain is why I remain resolutely against the Common Market, the ultimate capitalist club. I was against it well before Nigel Farage and that mob started UKIP"

He goes on...

"My objection in principle to the European project is about its implementation of the free movement of capital and labour, the undiluted capitalism at the heart of the Common Market project. Employers undermine wages and employment conditions, shifting production to its lowest cost countries."

This is all very true. Wages in this country are kept artificially low due to foreign labour.

[yoda]

I am beginning to like Dennis Skinner. Currently reading his book as suggested by GAV and have got to this section:

"The desire to improve the lives of the working people in Britain is why I remain resolutely against the Common Market, the ultimate capitalist club. I was against it well before Nigel Farage and that mob started UKIP"

He goes on...

"My objection in principle to the European project is about its implementation of the free movement of capital and labour, the undiluted capitalism at the heart of the Common Market project. Employers undermine wages and employment conditions, shifting production to its lowest cost countries."

Exactly what I have been saying to Jim, it's a Biderberg project is the EU

[JAL]

Could future new laws be implemented that could exclude anyone from going down this route ever again.

[yoda]

Could future new laws be implemented that could exclude anyone from going down this route ever again.

Who cares, we are leaving

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36161547

[perthblue02]

Wonder why the American banks, Big corps and their paid for puppy dogs in Government want Britain to remain in the EU?

http://www.waronwant.org/media/massive-document-leak-spells-end-ttip

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ttip-leak-could-spell-the-end-of-controversial-trade-deal-say-campaigners-a7009896.html