[Archived] Ipswich Away

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

I couldn't agree more 47er. First of all I take my hat off to those who travelled down to Ipswich. Rotherham have got Warnock in and he's got them fighting for their lives. I'd have thought our current Managerial staff would have had the same effect with our team but obviously the rot goes really deep at Ewood and only a total clear out will do the job. Probably the players at Rotherham aren't cut from the same cloth as our lot and have realised that jobs are on the line there. At the moment it's all about your form in the last six games not the previous 30.

There's a lot riding on the Brentford game. Lambert has gambled on giving most of our guys a rest last night, they need to come up with the goods on Saturday. Brentford are struggling at the moment and if we can field our best 11 we should be more than capable of getting a result. Another performance like last night and other recent away performances and I'll be getting a bit worried.

[JHRover]

We were awful tonight, but I have to stress that Ipswich were no better. The game would have ended 0-0 had it not been for a bizarre penalty decision and Adam Henley. Not going to go into the game too much as it was rubbish - hoof ball galore from both teams, the ball spent more time in the air than it did on the ground. We deserved nothing from tonight, but neither did Ipswich. As I said earlier, in a fair world both teams would get no points for such a pathetic showing. The beautiful game it was not. I think it's the first game I've been to where the announcement of added on time at the end of the first half was met with boos.

We had a good first ten minutes, but the game quickly descended into a nightmare of hoofing, bad passes and fouls. The standard of football was pretty disgusting for the second professional tier of English football.

As far as ratings go...

Steele - 6 - Didn't really do anything wrong. Both the penalty and second goal were well taken. Could have caught a few times when instead he elected to punch, but otherwise OK.

Spurr - 5.5 - Got up and down the line. He lacks quality and pace, but you can't fault his effort.

Hanley - 5 - A shaky night, made a few errors which would have been punished by a better team. Got into a couple of tangles with Duffy, a lack of communication there at times.

Duffy - 6 - Won practically every header, and there were plenty of them.

Henley - 2 - Terrible player. Pace is his only asset, and he doesn't even use that effectively. A boy playing a man's game. At fault for the second goal and his passing was appalling most of the game.

Grimes - 5.5 - Looked decent when he was on the ball, but that wasn't very often. Struggled to impose himself on the game, but that's to be expected from a young player. Had touches of class but no real impact.

Akpan - 4 - Looked lost for huge portions of the game. Committed a few fouls, otherwise no contribution.

Evans - 5 - Did OK before going off. Nothing special.

Bennett - 5 - Again, can't fault this player's effort but no quality whatsoever. Won a few fouls and delivered a couple of decent set pieces, but went missing for periods too.

Brown - 5.5 - I actually thought Brown did OK (based on low expectations). He had a few nice touches, worked hard, laid off a couple of nice passes and got stuck in. No quality whatsoever and absolutely no threat as a striker, but he certainly wasn't as bad as I feared he would be.

Jackson - 3 - Ran around a lot, but for absolutely no gain. The effort was there but it was painful watching him try to get involved in a game that he had no grasp on. Weirdly the majority of our long balls went to Jackson (who rarely won a header) as opposed to Brown. Figure that one out.

Subs:

Lenihan - 4 - Looked poor. Bad passing, committed fouls, lost the ball in dangerous areas a couple of times.

Gomez - 4 - Only on for sixteen minutes but had no impact on the game at all.

Watt - 4 - As above.

Ultimately this was a poor match contested by two poor teams. No idea how Ipswich are so high in the table, but even if they do get into the playoffs there is no chance of them going up I'm afraid.

As for us, we didn't lack effort but hugely lacked in quality. I feel bad for the hardy souls who made the trip to Ipswich tonight - you deserved better than that.

Pretty much agree with all that. As poor as we were I felt we were the better side in the first half with 2 good opportunities to take the lead in the first 20 minutes, then after that it descended into a dreadful game with Ipswich improving slightly as the game went on, though certainly not doing enough to win the game. They were booed off at half time at 0-0 which sums up their performance.

Adam Henley's time must be up now. Simply not good enough and as seen against MK Dons he is costing us. He is a weak link and no longer can rely on the excuse of being young or inexperienced. Too many of our players can't keep their composure for 90 minutes and we've lost to Burnley and Ipswich and arguably Derby because individuals have given away needless and reckless fouls which have set the home team on their way to a win when they didn't deserve it.

As soon as Ipswich got ahead it was game over. They were never going to relinquish the lead because defending them is their specialty and we were never going to offer enough through Brown and Jackson to trouble them with 20 minutes left.

I'm sick and tired of going to these tough grounds and losing when we don't deserve to. Last night was a 0-0 banker. We didn't play well but should have at least made sure we saw through the last 20 minutes without giving the home team any opportunities, yet lo and behold we press the self destruct button again. The better sides don't give referees the chance to give the home team the advantage, yet our numpties love giving away needless fouls. Burnley, Derby we should have had points from, yet lost them from set pieces that there was no need to give away and we'd be home and dry by now if we'd had those extra 3-4 points.

Brentford is a big game. We need to turn this away form round and get a win against a side in freefall and who aren't out of the relegation picture themselves. IF we get the 3 points there then it will have been a good week and I will welcome the break with open arms relaxed about the remainder of the season. Get beat or only get a point and this relegation scenario will continue going into the last 8 games.

[Al]

I wouldn't be a very responsible moderator if I didn't step in where it was necessary now would I? As I've said time and again, if people don't like Chaddy's posts they can just ignore him. The simplest solution all around and stops the same questions dominating threads that could just as easily be asked via PM.

Point is it is not necessary. He is well capable of defending himself as well as dishing it out. Your stepping in is not required.

[K-Hod]

Point is it is not necessary. He is well capable of defending himself as well as dishing it out. Your stepping in is not required.

He isn't defending himself though is he? That's my point. In fact, he's been conspicuous by his absence lately one might argue. In any case, it's for the moderating team to decide when our stepping in is required.

[Lancaster Rover]

I'm not sure Rotherhams result on saturday was down to them being particularly good, more Derby being embarrassingly bad for the last 30 minutes.

[Claytons Left Boot]

We started brightly and could have gone in front but the Rovers fans I sat with all agreed that the first goal would be crucial. Enter Dope Akpan to give Ipswich a lift. I honestly don't know what goes through some players minds. The second was down to the jittery Henley.

In the bigger picture it confirmed something that all sensible (I noticed the half wits were joyous with our defeat last night) Rovers fans knew - the squad is simply not good enough. If the Indians don't back Lambert we will really struggle next season.

214 Rovers fans there last night.

Hell, Tony, you're keen and I salute you! All the way to Ipswich on a Tuesday night with just 213 fellow Rovers fans.

I have some medicine and pills in the cabinet that you can have free of charge :-)

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Pretty much agree with all that. As poor as we were I felt we were the better side in the first half with 2 good opportunities to take the lead in the first 20 minutes, then after that it descended into a dreadful game with Ipswich improving slightly as the game went on, though certainly not doing enough to win the game. They were booed off at half time at 0-0 which sums up their performance.

Adam Henley's time must be up now. Simply not good enough and as seen against MK Dons he is costing us. He is a weak link and no longer can rely on the excuse of being young or inexperienced. Too many of our players can't keep their composure for 90 minutes and we've lost to Burnley and Ipswich and arguably Derby because individuals have given away needless and reckless fouls which have set the home team on their way to a win when they didn't deserve it.

As soon as Ipswich got ahead it was game over. They were never going to relinquish the lead because defending them is their specialty and we were never going to offer enough through Brown and Jackson to trouble them with 20 minutes left.

I'm sick and tired of going to these tough grounds and losing when we don't deserve to. Last night was a 0-0 banker. We didn't play well but should have at least made sure we saw through the last 20 minutes without giving the home team any opportunities, yet lo and behold we press the self destruct button again. The better sides don't give referees the chance to give the home team the advantage, yet our numpties love giving away needless fouls. Burnley, Derby we should have had points from, yet lost them from set pieces that there was no need to give away and we'd be home and dry by now if we'd had those extra 3-4 points.

Brentford is a big game. We need to turn this away form round and get a win against a side in freefall and who aren't out of the relegation picture themselves. IF we get the 3 points there then it will have been a good week and I will welcome the break with open arms relaxed about the remainder of the season. Get beat or only get a point and this relegation scenario will continue going into the last 8 games.

We are weak mentally away from home. We seem to travel expecting to lose. Like you said if we go behind we haven't got the self belief to pull the game back. We need a lucky break.

I remember Everton under Howard Kendall. They'd been really struggling all season and the knives were out for him. They were playing away at Oxford in the Cup and losing 1-0 with about 10 minutes left. They were awful. All of a sudden one of the Oxford players had a brain fart and attempted an absolutely suicidal back pass under no pressure what so ever. It went straight to Everton's Adrian Heath in front of goal who slotted it straight in. They got a draw, won the replay, their season picked right up and they and Kendall never looked back. Who knows what would have happened if that midfielder would have just banged the ball downfield ?

I'm not sure Rotherhams result on saturday was down to them being particularly good, more Derby being embarrassingly bad for the last 30 minutes.

Yeah but ask yourself would we have come back from 3-0 down with 10 minutes to go ?

[ABBEY]

I wouldn't be a very responsible moderator if I didn't step in where it was necessary now would I? As I've said time and again, if people don't like Chaddy's posts they can just ignore him. The simplest solution all around and stops the same questions dominating threads that could just as easily be asked via PM if people are so interested in the answer?

so a responsible mod says after a pne fan accuses rovers of soiling themselves and flaming and swear filter by passing that it was 6 of one ....the problem is Chaddy gives pelters to anyone who isn't able to see the game but when he states A RUBBISH PENALTY from a decision he hadn't seen at the time.

He isn't defending himself though is he? That's my point. In fact, he's been conspicuous by his absence lately one might argue. In any case, it's for the moderating team to decide when our stepping in is required.

or when its not if your a preston fan on the wind up.

[K-Hod]

so a responsible mod says after a pne fan accuses rovers of soiling themselves and flaming and swear filter by passing that it was 6 of one ....the problem is Chaddy gives pelters to anyone who isn't able to see the game but when he states A RUBBISH PENALTY from a decision he hadn't seen at the time.

Abbey it definitely was 6 of 1, regardless of who started it- there was plenty of name calling from Rovers fans side as well, that's my point. I really can't be bothered copying and pasting posts from that thread, but there were plenty.

As I explained, he'd said he was listening on the radio, and based his view on what the commentators said. It probably was a reactive post. But then, how many people posts things on here in the aftermath of a defeat that are in the heat of the moment? Lord knows I've done that plenty of times myself and I'm not alone!

[Al]

He isn't defending himself though is he? That's my point. In fact, he's been conspicuous by his absence lately one might argue. In any case, it's for the moderating team to decide when our stepping in is required.

OK I consider myself outranked. You used to be a poster I liked before your promotion.

[ABBEY]

Abbey it definitely was 6 of 1, regardless of who started it- there was plenty of name calling from Rovers fans side as well, that's my point. I really can't be bothered copying and pasting posts from that thread, but there were plenty...... SO WE SIT THERE AND JUST LET A PRESTON FAN COME ON HERE AND ABUSE US? BEND OVER AND TOUCH YOUR TOES BOYS

As I explained, he'd said he was listening on the radio, and based his view on what the commentators said. It probably was a reactive post. But then, how many people posts things on here in the aftermath of a defeat that are in the heat of the moment? Lord knows I've done that plenty of times myself and I'm not alone!....HE DIDNT SAY HE WAS LISTENING UNTIL LATER ON ...AT THE TIME HE SAID IT WAS A RUBBISH PENALTY DECISION ... HE THEN LATER MENTIONED HE WAS LISTENING.

[K-Hod]

Abbey it definitely was 6 of 1, regardless of who started it- there was plenty of name calling from Rovers fans side as well, that's my point. I really can't be bothered copying and pasting posts from that thread, but there were plenty...... SO WE SIT THERE AND JUST LET A PRESTON FAN COME ON HERE AND ABUSE US? BEND OVER AND TOUCH YOUR TOES BOYS

As I explained, he'd said he was listening on the radio, and based his view on what the commentators said. It probably was a reactive post. But then, how many people posts things on here in the aftermath of a defeat that are in the heat of the moment? Lord knows I've done that plenty of times myself and I'm not alone!....HE DIDNT SAY HE WAS LISTENING UNTIL LATER ON ...AT THE TIME HE SAID IT WAS A RUBBISH PENALTY DECISION ... HE THEN LATER MENTIONED HE WAS LISTENING.

Whatever I say, I'll be wrong and you'll be right, so what's the point?

[oldjamfan1]

Abbey it definitely was 6 of 1, regardless of who started it- there was plenty of name calling from Rovers fans side as well, that's my point. I really can't be bothered copying and pasting posts from that thread, but there were plenty...... SO WE SIT THERE AND JUST LET A PRESTON FAN COME ON HERE AND ABUSE US? BEND OVER AND TOUCH YOUR TOES BOYS

As I explained, he'd said he was listening on the radio, and based his view on what the commentators said. It probably was a reactive post. But then, how many people posts things on here in the aftermath of a defeat that are in the heat of the moment? Lord knows I've done that plenty of times myself and I'm not alone!....HE DIDNT SAY HE WAS LISTENING UNTIL LATER ON ...AT THE TIME HE SAID IT WAS A RUBBISH PENALTY DECISION ... HE THEN LATER MENTIONED HE WAS LISTENING.

I wasn't at the game but I thought it was a soft penalty before Chaddy ever posted that, because I'd seen it on Sky Sports News. I just assumed he had too, not that it really matters, he wasn't claiming to be at the game was he?

[Lancaster Rover]

Who cares. Man on internet says something other man on internet disagrees with. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[ABBEY]

I wasn't at the game but I thought it was a soft penalty before Chaddy ever posted that, because I'd seen it on Sky Sports News. I just assumed he had too, not that it really matters, he wasn't claiming to be at the game was he?

About 2 seconds after, before it was on the ssn. The thing that winds people up is gives crap to anyone who has not seen something or doesn't go for commenting on something they aint seen....ask Jal .

[oldjamfan1]

About 2 seconds after, before it was on the ssn. The thing that winds people up is gives crap to anyone who has not seen something or doesn't go for commenting on something they aint seen....ask Jal .

JAL will be busy blaming the Scousers.

[Tom]

I'm not sure what the issue is, I myself questioned if Chaddy had seen it but it's hardly worth carrying on about.

From Twitter and the live comments the penalty seemed weak so it's justifiable to be annoyed about it but Lambert admitted he had no issue with it, Chaddy was wrong but he's not influential enough in the world to need an apology based on that.

The forum is descending into a poor place again after a good spell, if people have issues with others please either ignore it or discuss via pm.

Probably time to clamp down on some of the guidelines.

Anything targeted at an individual repeatedly will be removed and bans issued just to make it more bearable for everyone. Whilst we are on that point - less of the cryptic nonsense we are seeing on some threads - scousers indeed!

That all said lets just try and get on a bit

[Al]

Another hidden post.

[BlueMonday]

As we lurk closer to the relegation dog fight, the worry is we might be relying on out of contract bottlers to keep us up. In theory Rotherhams team isn't as good as ours, but Warnock will get them fighting tooth & nail, literally.

Need points from Brentford to keep us clear and let's hope Rotherham away is an end of season dead rubber!

[Amo]

If certain members didn't hang on every word Chaddy says, all of this would be avoided.

[den]

30.Another performance like last night and other recent away performances and I'll be getting a bit worried.

Recent away performances Tyrone?

Starting with the Oxford game at the end of January where we won comfortably, we've played Boro away and played well, played Derby away and were apparently unlucky to lose that one, played Burnley away and were excellent - then played Ipswich away last night where both sides were poor but rovers rested 5 key players. Couple that with some sterling home performances and for me we've improved no end on where we were under Bowyer.

[DE.]

Back to the game...

Pretty much agree with all that. As poor as we were I felt we were the better side in the first half with 2 good opportunities to take the lead in the first 20 minutes, then after that it descended into a dreadful game with Ipswich improving slightly as the game went on, though certainly not doing enough to win the game. They were booed off at half time at 0-0 which sums up their performance.

Adam Henley's time must be up now. Simply not good enough and as seen against MK Dons he is costing us. He is a weak link and no longer can rely on the excuse of being young or inexperienced. Too many of our players can't keep their composure for 90 minutes and we've lost to Burnley and Ipswich and arguably Derby because individuals have given away needless and reckless fouls which have set the home team on their way to a win when they didn't deserve it.

As soon as Ipswich got ahead it was game over. They were never going to relinquish the lead because defending them is their specialty and we were never going to offer enough through Brown and Jackson to trouble them with 20 minutes left.

I'm sick and tired of going to these tough grounds and losing when we don't deserve to. Last night was a 0-0 banker. We didn't play well but should have at least made sure we saw through the last 20 minutes without giving the home team any opportunities, yet lo and behold we press the self destruct button again. The better sides don't give referees the chance to give the home team the advantage, yet our numpties love giving away needless fouls. Burnley, Derby we should have had points from, yet lost them from set pieces that there was no need to give away and we'd be home and dry by now if we'd had those extra 3-4 points.

Brentford is a big game. We need to turn this away form round and get a win against a side in freefall and who aren't out of the relegation picture themselves. IF we get the 3 points there then it will have been a good week and I will welcome the break with open arms relaxed about the remainder of the season. Get beat or only get a point and this relegation scenario will continue going into the last 8 games.

I was actually surprised by how lively and attacking minded we looked in the first 15 minutes or so. There was a fantastic interplay between Grimes, Brown and I think Jackson? Might have been Spurr. It ultimately came to nothing but was the last time anything resembling football occurred during the game. I'm not sure why we stopped playing this way and switched instead to Duffy and Hanley hoofing it up to Jackson. As soon as they started that (around the 15-20 min mark) it was repeated constantly until the end of the game. Ipswich were doing the same thing, which just made things worse.

The team put out was never going to pull up trees, but the likes of Henley, Akpan and Jackson really showed their limitations and made it impossible for us to create anything. Defensively we were okay, as you say it was individual mistakes again that cost us. If Marshall and Lenihan had been on the pitch instead of Henley and Akpan the game likely ends 0-0. Hopefully PL will have marked a few players' cards last night.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Recent away performances Tyrone?

Starting with the Oxford game at the end of January where we won comfortably, we've played Boro away and played well, played Derby away and were apparently unlucky to lose that one, played Burnley away and were excellent - then played Ipswich away last night where both sides were poor but rovers rested 5 key players. Couple that with some sterling home performances and for me we've improved no end on where we were under Bowyer.

Fair enough Den but how many points have we got from those games ?

[Dean]

If certain members didn't hang on every word Chaddy says, all of this would be avoided.

I have no idea who you could be TALKING ABOUT

[Lancaster Rover]

Fair enough Den but how many points have we got from those games ?

Going into those games against team in the top 8, teams who have been there all year how many points would you realistically have expected to take?