[Archived] Whatever Happened To My Hero

[blue kiwi]

Ryan Nelson?

[Paul]

Last heard of coaching Toronto FC till sacked in 2014

[47er]

He was keaned.

[JBiz]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ryan-nelsen-exit-left-steve-1675821

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/16829241

[Stuart]

Great defender, leader of men, 7 years at the club during some very successful times.

Kean arrives.

Team dismantled and players like Ryan allowed to leave on a free, without so much as a thank you.

Clueless, classless.

All those impatient with Lambert beware.

[1arC]

I'm surprised the lad isn't permanently in a wheel chair now, after the way Kean explained how bad he was.

Criminal all that and how he left with a pay off, I will never know

[Neal]

Would like him back at Rovers in some capacity.

[tomphil]

Loved Nelson but as such a lover of Rovers and seeming hater of Kean he still took his hush money and has remained silent ever since. Guess we have to wait years until these guys do their autobiographies and then it'll still only be hints as to what really went on big Sam style.

About time someone spilled

[philipl]

Have we forgotten how to spell Ryan Nelsen????

Anybody who had any brains or decency was forced out.

That said, Ryan has now gone over to the dark side- http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/76444432/Former-All-Whites-skipper-Ryan-Nelsen-working-as-a-player-agent

Google is your friend if you want to know the answer to a question....

[Ribble Rover]

Loved Nelson but as such a lover of Rovers and seeming hater of Kean he still took his hush money

The hush money usually comes with a lawyers letter explaining that he keeps schtum or they'll take him the cleaners. Can't blame him really.

[gumboots]

Not all agents are bad.

[rigger]

Not all agents are bad.

James Bond

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Woukd like him back at Rovers in some capacity.

He was a great player for us, especially before his injury problems. Having said that can we afford to employ people at the club on sentiment alone ? People in pro football don't seem to want to work for the minimum wage these days, can we afford to splash out on another post that's not essential ?

[Al]

Not all agents are bad.

Financial parasites the lot of them. Oyston has the right idea. Refuses to deal with them.

[koi]

Financial parasites the lot of them. Oyston has the right idea. Refuses to deal with them.

And look where they are.

[Al]

And look where they are.

Still think if more owners did the same we would rid the game of the parasites who take so much money out of the game.

How much have agents cost Rovers?

[JBiz]

Financial parasites the lot of them.

Not like you to judge an entire group of professionals or people as one...

Some agents are scum, most are probably ok but in such a cut throat environment, they are a necessary evil.

[Stuart]

And look where they are.

Them and Mike Newell. Although in Blackpool's case there is a bit more to it.

Cross agents though and it's all over. Is it right that none footballing people who take money out of the game should have so much power? They will argue that they do a lot of good in the game but if you look at the state of football - particularly the financial health of clubs - in the era of agents' involvement and it's not good. There should be enough money in football for every club to be in the black and left overs for local grassroots investment. Yet instead we have a volunteer "workforce" in the junior game and agents driving around in big cars.

[Al]

Not like you to judge an entire group of professionals or people as one...

Some agents are scum, most are probably ok but in such a cut throat environment, they are a necessary evil.

Sorry don't agree.

[Amo]

Player agents are a necessary evil in the modern game. Some are more unscrupulous than others but that's the case in many lines of work.

[BlueMonday]

Football economics are geared towards players taking money out of the game and agents facilitate this process. There are vast amounts of money sloshing around the top end of football and the vast majority goes on player wages.

And it will choke the life out of football eventually, with less money going to grass roots, fans having to pay ever increasing ticket prices and more and more small clubs going bust just so Wayne Rooney and Carlos Kickaball can have more money than they can spend in a lifetime.

[47er]

James Bond

Maxwell Smart and that yummy Agent 99.

[patrickvalery]

It makes me laugh when I hear that football agents are a necessary evil. How so? Football is about 11 V's 11 on a football pitch and 2 managers directing and commanding those players the way they see fit. Nothing else matters. People and more importantly the media seem to have forgotten it's a sport. The same as curling or volleyball. Its just that it's far more entertaining. Football agents aren't required in any way, shape or form for the game to thrive. But it's also naive to think they exist because of greedy players. The clubs are equally if not more greedy and use them for their own gain when it suits. Oyston may be a turd in his own way, and Newell fought a losing battle out of morality, but they're both correct.

[Amo]

It makes me laugh when I hear that football agents are a necessary evil. How so? Football is about 11 V's 11 on a football pitch and 2 managers directing and commanding those players the way they see fit. Nothing else matters. People and more importantly the media seem to have forgotten it's a sport. The same as curling or volleyball. Its just that it's far more entertaining. Football agents aren't required in any way, shape or form for the game to thrive. But it's also naive to think they exist because of greedy players. The clubs are equally if not more greedy and use them for their own gain when it suits. Oyston may be a turd in his own way, and Newell fought a losing battle out of morality, but they're both correct.

You can't seriously compare a multi-billion industry like football to volleyball and curling!

What's the alternative, PV? Cut out the middle-man and let players negotiate directly with the club?

We all know the average footballer isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. They'd be getting shafted left, right and centre.

[Stuart]

You can't seriously compare a multi-billion industry like football to volleyball and curling!

What's the alternative, PV? Cut out the middle-man and let players negotiate directly with the club?

We all know the average footballer isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. They'd be getting shafted left, right and centre.

So you are saying they might not get as much money as they deserve? Do you get an agent to negotiate on your behalf for a new job? Or for a pay rise? Or do you shop around and do a bit of research as to the going rate?

You make these agents sound like benevolent charity workers looking after oppressed victims against massive conglomerates. They are taking money OUT of football.

And what about the people who work at football clubs who are trying to get good players in but are priced out, not because they can't afford the player or wages but because of the agents fees and percentages?