[Archived] Season Ticket Prices 2016/17

[ABBEY]

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I THINK OR DO ..JOG ON GOOD LAD

[Mattyblue]

It's a tough one. A football club needs to have a cross section of fans to speak to on issues, some mundane, some not- i.e. Family Stand.

But how do you do it without sending out a survey to all fans? Or a mass ballot of season ticket holders?

We tried the independent supporters club route back in the days of yore (BRISA anyone? ), didn't get off the ground. As well as the Fans Forum we've got the Rovers Trust, we've got BRAG, but 'they don't speak for me either!'.

So what do you do? No communication at all? It's hard enough to get anything out of the club as it is, so we should try and maintain the communication we have and if that is through the FF that anyone can join, what's the problem?

[MCMC1875]

It's a tough one. A football club needs to have a cross section of fans to speak to on issues, some mundane, some not- i.e. Family Stand.

But how do you do it without sending out a survey to all fans? Or a mass ballot of season ticket holders?

We tried the independent supporters club route back in the days of yore (BRISA anyone? ), didn't get off the ground. As well as the Fans Forum we've got the Rovers Trust, we've got BRAG, but 'they don't speak for me either!'.

So what do you do? No communication at all? It's hard enough to get anything out of the club as it is, so we should try and maintain the communication we have and if that is through the FF that anyone can join, what's the problem?

Too many different groups for me.

I would fold the Fans Forum and BRAG in favour of the Rovers Trust which has a very robust structure.

[JBiz]

Makes sense MCMC. Have one voted member from fans for some level of democracy?

[Stuart]

Matty, you've said its not a closed shop but is there a limit on numbers? Are there set times for joining? Dead man's shoes? Is there an internal vote to allow you to join? Could somebody already on the FF veto an 'applicant'?

If we are interested in a unified fan group then the most credible one (sorry) is the Rovers Trust, so couldn't the Rovers Trust members all register to join the FF and all of the existing FF enrol as Rovers Trust members?

In effect the Rovers Trust would then be part of the club endorsed fan representative body.

[Iceman]

How about they annoy even more fans and put the family stand in half of the darwen end forcing those who sit there to either sit with the kids and old fogeys like me or move elsewhere or stop attending. Since it seems to be the club's aim to rid itself of all the irritating people who turn up to watch matches, this would surely be a master stroke

I dont understand why many think Old fogeys are not fun.

[Iceman]

Should just reduce the overall capacity of Ewood to 10 000.

But on a serious note, many years ago, after we were relegated the 1st time, was there not mention of reducing the capacity in any case?

From what ive seen on tv, why not remove the top stand at the Darwen End, and give the bottom to the away fans. My building skills are not the greatest, so not sure what the structural bits at Ewood are.

For now, you might as well reduce the capacity to 18 000. 12 000 home fans, the rest away fans.

[LewisF]

I'd just give the away fans the upper tier in the DE every match

[ABBEY]

Yup

[47er]

We've been down this road, if you don't want to publicly discuss something, don't post it here.

I'm the same, I don't make the time to be involved although I've considered it. Therefore I can't criticise something for not representing me.

Let's be honest about it- you could get involved if you really wanted to make a difference, just like I could. I just get the feeling you'd rather complain about it.

You can't criticise the Monarchy without joining it?

[BlueMonday]

Too many different groups for me.

I would fold the Fans Forum and BRAG in favour of the Rovers Trust which has a very robust structure.

Good point. It could be the first step to having permanent supporter representation at the Club and hopefully part supporter ownership when the morons leave.

[gumboots]

Season ticket letter re BB End Upper closure arrived today. Not consultation, just info

[AndyNeil]

the FF, BRAG and Rovers Trust could all have some level of criticism thrown at them at some point for things that have happened in the past although dragging it up doesn't really achieve much in the end other than to divide the supporters.

Still some either don't seem capable or prepared to let these instances from the past go - pretty sad really.

[Proudtobeblue&white]

Season ticket letter re BB End Upper closure arrived today. Not consultation, just info

Yep, mine has flopped on the mat - done deal, no consultation, but I get to go and choose my seat, feck off!

Oh, and my ticket has increased in price for the privilege of sitting somewhere I don't want to sit - when I get the chance I will be letting the club that I love and have spent 40-years following know that I won't be renewing - idiots.

[AndyNeil]

So they aren't relocating it anywhere, they are just closing it?

[Proudtobeblue&white]

So they aren't relocating it anywhere, they are just closing it?

Yes, we get to go into the JW lower BE, but the BE upper closed, ticket price increased by £20 to watch what? We don't even know. It's an insult the the fan base, no consultation, and you get to watch a sh*t product for more money - I'm incensed.

[ABBEY]

the FF, BRAG and Rovers Trust could all have some level of criticism thrown at them at some point for things that have happened in the past although dragging it up doesn't really achieve much in the end other than to divide the supporters.

Still some either don't seem capable or prepared to let these instances from the past go - pretty sad really.

Who is that aimed at?

[Proudtobeblue&white]

To justify all this, they are reducing prices in the JW stand, but still making it more expensive for family stand members, and moving the cameras to the WS stand so that the 5,000 fans that are left will look impressive! Unbelievable after all we have had to endure over their fantastic tenure!

[gumboots]

I think it was the idea they tried to put over that the atmosphere will be better as the BB Upper is "a bit detached and isolated from the rest of the crowd" that really got to me. It wasn't previously, when we had a crowd. It's only that nowadays everywhere else is empty too. Basically they want to cram as many as possible into the JW Lower and show that on TV games. It won't work. The JW is a massive stand and putting 5000 people in there and televising it will just make it clear that we really have no fans left.

[pk1875]

Too many different groups for me.

I would fold the Fans Forum and BRAG in favour of the Rovers Trust which has a very robust structure.

With regards to BRFCAG, we are not affiliated to the club, we are affiliate members of The Football Supporters Federation and members of Football Supporters Europe. And to be honest if we decided to fold it would be detrimental to various community groups and football teams that we work with or have established.

The FF are affiliated to the club and do their thing.

The Rovers Trust aren't as such a fans group but a group looking towards owning or shared ownership of the club.

All three groups have different formats and different objectives, so your suggestion isn't really a valid one.

[OJRovers]

Are they really moving the tv cameras? Why now after all this time?

The camera will be a lot lower.

People watching who have never been to ewood are going to be shocked to see a big empty stand instead of the usual cowshed.

[gumboots]

It says subject to final approval. " How Ewood is represented on-screen to the world will be transformed. The global public will see three modern and hugely impressive stands. They will look even more impressive when they are full of fans. The new Family Stand plays an important role in that." Direct quote from the letter I have in front of me.

It's not about what's actually happening you see; it's about the perception of the global public

[perthblue02]

It says subject to final approval. " How Ewood is represented on-screen to the world will be transformed. The global public will see three modern and hugely impressive stands. They will look even more impressive when they are full of fans. The new Family Stand plays an important role in that." Direct quote from the letter I have in front of me.

It's not about what's actually happening you see; it's about the perception of the global public

All fur coat and no knickers, is the phrase my Mum would use

Anybody know where attachment 2 is ,relating to item 7 in the Fans Forum minutes from March.

http://www.rovers.co.uk/documents/14th-march-2016195-3045348.pdf

[Ben-2000]

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[gumboots]

My mum too

It's not the fact that the stand is closing - it's the whole tone of the letter and the blithe assumption that we will be happy to sit elsewhere. we won't, because we won't be buying tickets. after all it's not like we have a board, a CEO, a manager, a team to watch is it? If the team had been sorted, the management in place, the whole club structure correct then being asked to move seats might no have mattered but then if we'd had all that, the stand probably wouldn't need to close.