[Archived] Wolves Away - 9Th April

[den]

Not wanting to drag it out but if you listen to his interview when he joined Boro he basically acknowledges his short comings and explains why he plays like he does. He knows what he is and so do most of us it's not like he's pretended to be any different, he can't do what he can't do even when he tries.

Brown is nothing more than a glaring example of how far we've fallen and how we've been mismanaged even by people who've done some good. He's been regarded as a joke but a trier everywhere he's been apart from Donny probably. He'll have had stick everywhere he's been as well hence his non interaction with fans which doesn't help him.

Just another very lucky modern day footballer who's managed to end up operating several levels above his ability and earning more than he ever should. Great squad man if you've got 3 decent strikers already but somehow I think he was always brought here to be a starter given how he was brought in and what was going on at the time, i.e the intention was always to ship out Rhodes & Rudy.

Don't think the intention was to sell Rhodes and Gestede and replace with Brown. I do think though, that Browns chief critics are those that are most vociferous about the Rhodes sale.

The rest of your post I do agree with.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

It's proof that you don't follow the argument.

He's an excellent finisher in the box, said it dozens of times.

I know this is the wrong thread, but mods - feel free to move it to the right one.

I remember an interview - I think in the LT - when he first joined us. He was asked how he manages to score as many times as he does. His answer was telling to me. He said he simply concentrates on making good contact with the ball. That's what he'd done all of his career. Think about that though. Every striker tries to do that, and it sounds easy and obvious, but even at PL level not many strikers make consistently good contact with balls coming to them. Not often you see Rhodes snatch at a chance or badly mishit the ball. He gets a high percentage of shots on target.

He has little, if anything else to his game though and pretty much, every other manager knows that. In modern day football that isn't enough. End of story - it isn't enough.

Now for your views on Brown?

Yeah I agree Den. He does get things right most of the time inside the box. He just gives it enough to hit the back of the net. He doesn't panic in front of goal and his contact on the ball is first class. If he was quick or a bit of an animal he'd have never played for us in the first place.

[JAL]

To coin a phrase, Lambert has to wee with the willy he's got. Yes, Brown has been mostly bobbins for us, and it would be a compliment to call him a poor man's Kuqi, but he only plays him because there's not another senior striker after Graham who can put himself about and compete for long balls.

Is this Lambert's legacy to date to leave the fans with no strikers that they can call their own.

[DE.]

Rhodes was also an excellent spot kick taker, something which shouldn't be taken for granted. Comes with being a good striker of the ball I suppose.

JR was never going to fit into Lambert's way of playing, so it was simply best for all parties that he departed. I think we'd be more or less in the same position now regardless of whether we'd sold him, as we only have an extra 4-6 points more than the trajectory GB had us on.

Bottom line is we got good money for him, but if we can't reinvest it then it just gets chucked into the black hole that is our debt.

[JAL]

Which players do the fans chant their names on matchdays ?

This is always a good barometer to who's actually endeared to by the fans for what they do.

[Mike Graham]

May be mentioned elsewhere - but how did Lowe play ?

I was impressed with Lowe. He was like a new player, short of match fitness, but he had a good game and certainly improved our defence and midfield.

[Gav]

Which players do the fans chant their names on matchdays ?

This is always a good barometer to who's actually endeared to by the fans for what they do.

The fans at Wolves sang for Chris Brown most of the game JAL.

[ABBEY]

but its gallow humour singing gav

[Husky]

The fans at Wolves sang for Chris Brown most of the game JAL.

That's usually the best barometer.

Like when away fans always sing about Venky's.

[JAL]

The fans at Wolves sang for Chris Brown most of the game JAL.

What did they sing Gav ?

[tomphil]

Don't think the intention was to sell Rhodes and Gestede and replace with Brown. I do think though, that Browns chief critics are those that are most vociferous about the Rhodes sale.

The rest of your post I do agree with.

My thinking was that they were preparing for what they thought was the inevitable in Rhodes Rudy going in that Jan window as soon as someone came up with the right cash by preparing to have Brown as the lump to play off up front with a number 10 in the hole. Backed up of course by the number of possible number 10 or so called that GB insisted on recruiting.

It might only have been a temporary measure but I think it's the way they wanted to go if as they thought those two would be gone soon. Obviously and probably thankfully it didn't work out like that and then Browny got injured so we'd never have seen it happen anyway.

I can't see it as anything else really because he was never good back up nor partner material for either and he left Donny where he was the main lump up front and well liked to play a bit part at Ewood ? He must have been pitched something as a good reason to come.

[VinjayV4]

My thinking was that they were preparing for what they thought was the inevitable in Rhodes Rudy going in that Jan window as soon as someone came up with the right cash by preparing to have Brown as the lump to play off up front with a number 10 in the hole. Backed up of course by the number of possible number 10 or so called that GB insisted on recruiting.

It might only have been a temporary measure but I think it's the way they wanted to go if as they thought those two would be gone soon. Obviously and probably thankfully it didn't work out like that and then Browny got injured so we'd never have seen it happen anyway.

I can't see it as anything else really because he was never good back up nor partner material for either and he left Donny where he was the main lump up front and well liked to play a bit part at Ewood ? He must have been pitched something as a good reason to come.

Well the Doncaster chairman said it was 10k (prior to FUP) and presumably it still is. I doubt if there's any extra incentives he's hit any!

Doubt money just came into the decision. You would have to be off your rocker to turn down Blackburn Rovers to stay at Doncaster.

[tomphil]

Well the Doncaster chairman said it was 10k (prior to FUP) and presumably it still is. I doubt if there's any extra incentives he's hit any!

Doubt money just came into the decision. You would have to be off your rocker to turn down Blackburn Rovers to stay at Doncaster.

The 10k was denied by Bowyer and he was no 1 choice up top at Donny I think so it was either the money or promises that drew him to Rovers. Sadly I doubt it was the prestige of playing for us although that used to be enough for some. It was a strange signing and there was some kind of method in GB's madness I reckon.

[Gav]

What did they sing Gav ?

We're on the pitch when Browny scores.

[Stuart]

We're on the pitch when Browny scores.

Sounds like sarcasm to me GAV.

[ABBEY]

as I said earlier ..gallows