[Archived] New Manager

[K-Hod]

That's right mate, he's put an apology on. I can understand him tweeting a mate etc, but surely he knows the rivalry and the trouble it will create.

Can't see why he couldn't have just text him tbh. After the season we've had as well!

[LDRover]

In your efforts to trip me up you're contradicting yourself Jason. How is selling Rhodes and replacing him with loanees and a short term signing not weakening the squad?

Not saying it isn't but I'm pretty sure it was never just about this season more about the longer term. It's evident to me that Lambert sold Rhodes to fit in with his plan for the future, a plan where the rug was pulled from under him.

You really need to look past the manager to see where the blame should be apportioned. Nobody has a chance with this lot. Very much like a certain ex-manager, this lot couldn't lie straight in bed.

[oldjamfan1]

Can't see why he couldn't have just text him tbh. After the season we've had as well!

Yeah it was ill advised, but to be fair he recovered well enough with his reply to a Rovers fan who pulled him up for it. He said he'd known Gray since he was 7 years old and congratulatiing a mate is not the same as congratulating the club he plays for. As I say, ill advised but footballers generally aren't the brightest.

[Hasta]

If I sound bitter towards Lambert, it's nothing to do with not liking him per se. I don't like Alex Ferguson either but I'd have taken him as manager.

Look at the squad Lambert has left us with going forward for next season. That's the top and bottom of it.

As has been pointed out, it's the same squad he inherited bar Ollson and Rhodes. A left back is priority but Marcus should be easily replaceable. Rhodes would be more tricky.

It depends whether you believe he was promised money for new players or not. If you do, then selling Rhodes and bringing in Graham and a few other this summer makes some logical sense. The fact that promise has been renegaded on means the squad is the fault of GB and Venkys.

If you believe Lambert took the job with no promise of money, sold our star asset and then quit because he wasn't going to get any cash to spend on players then fair criticise away. However I'm not sure anybody can believe that is what's happened.

[Athlete]

Not saying it isn't but I'm pretty sure it was never just about this season more about the longer term. It's evident to me that Lambert sold Rhodes to fit in with his plan for the future, a plan where the rug was pulled from under him.

You really need to look past the manager to see where the blame should be apportioned. Nobody has a chance with this lot. Very much like a certain ex-manager, this lot couldn't lie straight in bed.

Lambert probably was told he'd get the majority of the Rhodes cash plus a certain budget and probably thought what the hell let's go for it

obviously he was lied to

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Comparisons between Lee and Lambert are tenuous in the extreme Parson.

We don't know how much money the owners said Lambert could spend or if it was a reasonable amount.

Lambert walked out. Lee didn't and did the business.

And then he walked out.

[den]

In your efforts to trip me up you're contradicting yourself Jason. How is selling Rhodes and replacing him with loanees and a short term signing not weakening the squad?

Lambert couldn't choose the timing of Rhodes leaving Rev. Ideally it would have been in the summer with Boro coming in with £11m, but that wasn't going to happen, was it?

As for loanees, there really isn't a problem as far as I'm concerned. Tell me the last season when rovers didn't have players in on loan?

However, having said all that, Rhodes leaving didn't weaken the squad. In fact we replaced him directly with a better centre forward - IMO.

[Stuart]

Lambert couldn't choose the timing of Rhodes leaving Rev. Ideally it would have been in the summer with Boro coming in with £11m, but that wasn't going to happen, was it?

As for loanees, there really isn't a problem as far as I'm concerned. Tell me the last season when rovers didn't have players in on loan?

However, having said all that, Rhodes leaving didn't weaken the squad. In fact we replaced him directly with a better centre forward - IMO.

Somebody will be on at me shortly for keep bringing up the R word.

I don't expect you to admit you are wrong but if you don't want to keep doing this dance and boring the pants off folk, give it a rest, den!

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Somebody will be on at me shortly for keep bringing up the R word.

I don't expect you to admit you are wrong but if you don't want to keep doing this dance and boring the pants off folk, give it a rest, den!

How about you taking your own advice then ?

[den]

Somebody will be on at me shortly for keep bringing up the R word.

I don't expect you to admit you are wrong but if you don't want to keep doing this dance and boring the pants off folk, give it a rest, den!

I have a lot of respect for your contributions on here Stuart, but please don't tell me which footballing topics I can contribute to..

To go back to revs aversion to loanees, - a question for everyone.......

Who were the first rovers players to be brought in, and sent out on loan?

Don't know the answer, but Dave Gregory, Archibald were a long time ago.

[47er]

In your efforts to trip me up you're contradicting yourself Jason. How is selling Rhodes and replacing him with loanees and a short term signing not weakening the squad?

You're now running the Rhodes thing on 2 separate threads simultaneously Rev!

Bit obsessive?

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Lambert probably was told he'd get the majority of the Rhodes cash plus a certain budget and probably thought what the hell let's go for it

obviously he was lied to

Nobody can say he was lied to - as our owners didn't actually say no you can't have the cash (Lambert himself said he didn't know what next seasons budget would be). The fact he just wasn't spoken to is bad enough.

One of the bad things to come out of Leicester winning the Premiership - will be Venky's thinking they can get promoted on a shoestring - when in truth Leicester were bank rolled in getting promoted and I did see an article questioning whether they broke FFP rules when doing so.

[G Somerset Rover]

However, having said all that, Rhodes leaving didn't weaken the squad. In fact we replaced him directly with a better centre forward - IMO.

It's weakened the squad considerably now Den, given there isn't a cat in hells chance of keeping Graham and we won't have a permanent CF on our books come June.

[had.e.nuff]

Nobody can say he was lied to - as our owners didn't actually say no you can't have the cash (Lambert himself said he didn't know what next seasons budget would be). The fact he just wasn't spoken to is bad enough.

One of the bad things to come out of Leicester winning the Premiership - will be Venky's thinking they can get promoted on a shoestring - when in truth Leicester were bank rolled in getting promoted and I did see an article questioning whether they broke FFP rules when doing so.

They have still to have their accounts cleared for that season but the toothless tiger of the football league FFP rules will not harm them.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/apr/11/leicester-city-finances-football-league-financial-fair-play-investigation

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

It's weakened the squad considerably now Den, given there isn't a cat in hells chance of keeping Graham and we won't have a permanent CF on our books come June.

Like I said earlier - do you seriously think Rhodes would have still been here come the first game of the season ?

[JHRover]

Nobody can say he was lied to - as our owners didn't actually say no you can't have the cash (Lambert himself said he didn't know what next seasons budget would be). The fact he just wasn't spoken to is bad enough.

One of the bad things to come out of Leicester winning the Premiership - will be Venky's thinking they can get promoted on a shoestring - when in truth Leicester were bank rolled in getting promoted and I did see an article questioning whether they broke FFP rules when doing so.

I doubt Venkys have even heard of Leicester City, nevermind know that they pulled off a miracle and won the league yesterday. The chances of them sitting down together on the sofa watching Leicester all over the news and talking about our chances of emulating them? Not likely.

Leicester's owners have from day one taken an active role in trying to make the club successful, and are now reaping the rewards from that. They bought Leicester partly as a tool to promote their brand, King Power, which now adorns their kits, stadium name and sponsor boards, partly because they enjoy football and want to be successful in the sport, and partly to develop football in Thailand and promote Leicester as 'Thailand's team'. To that end they have faced up to huge clubs in United, City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool, who are much more successful and already developed in the Asian markets, yet Leicester have seen success with a rapidly growing fanbase in Thailand after just 2 years in the top division. Along with that Leicester have had pre-season tours of Thailand, played Thai teams in pre-season friendlies and have all sorts of initiatives out there to try and boost their popularity.

The result is a club with a growing appeal in the lucrative Far East market.

They've done everything that Venkys haven't. Venky's supposedly arrived here with plans to boost their brand and football in India, along with making BRFC India's Premier League team, and have failed miserably on every level.

Beyond a massive deterioration on the football pitch, the extent of their efforts off the pitch to promote the brand and club overseas has seen what? One friendly in 2011 against Pune FC. A dozen Venkys advertising boards around Ewood Park. No Indian sponsors or links, no tours of India, no academy developed in Pune as supposedly planned.

Leicesters owners and Rovers owners got into this game and made all the same noises when they took over. One meant business and has succeeded spectacularly and the others have been an embarrassment on every level.

[sharpysharps]

My take on the situation of Rovers manager search is much like a lot of other people on here...it doesn't really matter who is in charge while their is chronic mismanagement from the top and no experienced and proper structure within the club based in England. As we have witnessed this season, hiring a proven (at this level) manager barely changes anything.

We are incredibly unlikely to attract another manager in the same category as PL, and with that thinking we could do a lot worse than take someone on from league one at this point in time, after all we'll probably be playing in that league in 2017/18.

The problem will still remain though...until Venkys leave this club it will be continuation of the slow and painful demise that we have witnessed thus far. I honestly don't know what we can do to get them out.

[Athlete]

Nobody can say he was lied to - as our owners didn't actually say no you can't have the cash (Lambert himself said he didn't know what next seasons budget would be). The fact he just wasn't spoken to is bad enough

Well you can bet you're bottom dollar he wouldn't of took the gig without some sort of assurances

Myers announcing he was leaving was the very telling IMV

Gonna be some poignant goodbyes on Saturday players and fans alike

[JHRover]

My take on the situation of Rovers manager search is much like a lot of other people on here...it doesn't really matter who is in charge while their is chronic mismanagement from the top and no experienced and proper structure within the club based in England. As we have witnessed this season, hiring a proven (at this level) manager barely changes anything.

We are incredibly unlikely to attract another manager in the same category as PL, and with that thinking we could do a lot worse than take someone on from league one at this point in time, after all we'll probably be playing in that league in 2017/18.

The problem will still remain though...until Venkys leave this club it will be continuation of the slow and painful demise that we have witnessed thus far. I honestly don't know what we can do to get them out.

Probably won't pay compensation to bring in a League One manager, and even if we did the chances are the better League One managers would prefer to stay where they are than come here for a few months.

Out of the current League One managers I'd take Nigel Clough, Nigel Adkins or Tony Mowbray, as those 3 have a decent track record in this league and have demonstrated an ability to manage the pressures and expectations of a bigger club. However I'd be surprised if any of those three would give up their current jobs to come here, such is the status of being Blackburn Rovers manager these days.

Well you can bet you're bottom dollar he wouldn't of took the gig without some sort of assurances

Myers announcing he was leaving was the very telling IMV

Gonna be some poignant goodbyes on Saturday players and fans alike

The only goodbye from me will be a swift run to the exits as soon as the full time whistle goes. Then I've got about 35 minutes to get back to my car to drive to Accy Stanley via Ossy in time for their big game.

[A cup of beans]

This is the article that Binoy did previously: http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-01-22/news/30651031_1_blackburn-rovers-anuradha-desai-jack-walker-trust

I am also led to believe that a different Indian journo is working on something and it is likely to hit within the next 7 to 10 days, he has approached a number of people to get some background information about the mismanagement of the club and to get viewpoints of fans on what they feel about Venky's. So there is lots happening in India at the moment.

With the help of perthblue I have managed to identify all of the major Venky's shareholders, I am writing to them to tell them about they told damage that the Venky's family have done to Venky's brand in the uk, pointing out that the fried chicken market is worth billions in the uk and it is a market that Venky's through Venky's express have never been able to enter due to the damage done to Venky's brand by their mismanagement of Blackburn rovers therefore potentially costing them hundreds of millions. The hope is that we can exploit the tensions between the family and major shareholders to exert some internal pressure on the family.

Thank you, Kamy and Perth. Stirring effort.

If only there was more we could all do.

Do you the press thing is an earth-shattering shift ?

[AllRoverAsia]

Well you can bet you're bottom dollar he wouldn't of took the gig without some sort of assurances

Myers announcing he was leaving was the very telling IMV

Gonna be some poignant goodbyes on Saturday players and fans alike

Bowyer sacked, Lambert appointed, Rhodes sold and proceeds go ????, Shaw goes, Myers flees, Lambert buggers off........Maigret is not needed here ..all nicely winding down to Wanky's satisfaction ... imho

[A cup of beans]

I'm planning on leaving at 75 mins, as my own private protest (1875).

I never leave early.

You could join in, give you extra time to get to the other game.

[JHRover]

If I were responsible for bringing in Rovers' new manager I would draw up a list of 9 or 10 people as a starting point to work from. Experience and some degree of success in this division would be imperative. My list would be:

- Simon Grayson

- Neil Warnock

- Nigel Clough

- Billy Davies

- Tim Sherwood

- Gus Poyet

- Neil Lennon

- Steve Evans

- Steve McClaren

I would also be keeping a close eye on the futures of Kenny Jackett, Mick McCarthy and Steve Bruce, who are all possibly going to be leaving their clubs in the coming weeks.

I would bet that irrespective of our budget for next season, that at least 3 or 4 of the above would be interested in discussing the vacancy at Rovers. The majority are unemployed and won't be getting Premier League offers in the near future. Fair enough someone like Grayson is unlikely to want to leave Preston to join this mad house, but I suppose money talks and if his wage/contract was significantly increased he might listen.

Warnock would almost certainly be interested if we acted quickly enough. He's hesitating over a new Rotherham deal because he wants to break the record and achieve an 8th promotion next season and has said he can't do it with Rotherham. I'm sure if we gave him some sort of budget to work with and a big promotion bonus he would consider it.

Poyet might have his eyes on bigger things after an impressive short spell with AEK Athens but would be worth a call to see if he is interested.

Sherwood is something of a wild card. I'm not sure whether he's a good manager in the making or a disaster waiting to happen, but either way he would likely require proof of funding to consider the job.

Lennon I still think could do a job. The financial disaster at Bolton this season made it an almost impossible job but before that he had a decent record and will have a point to prove, though I recognise he would probably be an unpopular choice with most Rovers fans.

Steve Evans is another who would probably not be popular with supporters, but everywhere he's been has done a decent job, even at Leeds this season, and has got used to working under testing conditions and unusual owners.

I've already said my favourite would be Davies - who has an outstanding record at this level and needs to get back to work - but he expects backing and support from the owners and like Lambert would speak his mind in the media if he didn't get what he wanted.

The primary target for next season is looking like survival, so it makes no sense whatsoever to employ someone like Karl Robinson whose only experience at this level has seen him take MK Dons back down, same goes for Keith Hill at Barnsley. Whatever our ambition we need tried and tested, experienced, know the circuit, know the transfer window etc. etc. Employing a rookie at this juncture will almost certainly seal relegation next season given the scale of job facing the manager in the summer.

I appreciate that the chances of any of the above happening are slim after what has gone on with Lambert, but if it were me those are the sort of names we should be looking at if we want to salvage anything going forward.

[ABBEY]

Don't matter what you or me think .. Why do people go on about it . We are not a normal club we are run by arkhams finest .. They should reopen the Brockhall site as it used to be and lob the cluckers in it

[MarkBRFC71]

There's a reason Paul Jewell is 13/8 favourite - there won't be a search for a manager as it's done and dusted.