[Archived] Next Manager

[Don Said]

Jaap Stam is a highly rated coach and has been on Ajax's books for a number of years. Would be a good move for Reading imo.

I want this saga to end with us. I'd rather just know who the manager is, even if it's a disappointment at the time. With every day that goes by time is wasted that should be spent planning our season ahead. Lambert gave BRFC plenty of notice. We should have been the first club to announce its new manager and had the picking of the choice. Shambolic to say the least.

Change Jaap Staam to Warren Joyce. Change Ajax to Man United. Change Reading to Blackburn.

Perspective!

[4000Holes]

So still nothing? Have a good weekend guys. Im off to play Croquet(sp) to take my mind off this.

What will you do next weekend to take your mind off this.

[JHRover]

Relax everyone. No rush. Plenty of time to consider all the options, make a reasoned decision and appoint the best man for the job. Pre-season doesn't start for another month. As long as the manager is in place by then he can sort the team out. Appointing someone this week and he'd just be sitting around for a month getting paid to be on holiday, so these clever Venkys are getting round that issue by bringing someone in down the line who they don't have to pay to do nothing. Its not as though there is even anything to do in the next month. Irvine and Kelly have been holding the fort, Lambert sorted out pre-season arrangements, any gaps in the squad can be filled down the line - the transfer window doesn't shut until September so plenty of time for the new man.

Reading, Everton, Forest, Villa, Derby, Leeds, Rotherham, Port Vale, Bolton, Oldham and Blackpool are still without managers so no need to panic. We're just being thorough and are determined to avoid the same mistakes made in previous years.

Then I woke up.

[Iceman]

What will you do next weekend to take your mind off this.

Bloody hell i never thought about that. Last week it was a bit of chess, this week croquet. What next. Im running out of ideas waiting on this manager decision.

[Gav]

Doesn't matter when they appoint, or who they appoint the same results will apply.

We're going down to league 1, save your money buying season tickets because once these idiots sod off you'll need a few quid to buy a season ticket in the new regime and they'll not be £199, they can't be priced that cheaply, but it'll be our football club again and not some vehicle for unscrupulous ****s.

They'll crawl back under their rock one day, the clocks ticking.

[martonrover]

Change Jaap Staam to Warren Joyce. Change Ajax to Man United. Change Reading to Blackburn.

Perspective!

Think I'd be more afraid of letting Staam down

[USABlue]

Exactly as appoint Joyce why not Kinder he knows all the academy lads

You mean like Bowyer knew all the lads, remind me how did that work out?

Owners don't care about promotion now, that would just be a bonus for them. All about producing young talent and selling on for a profit. It's a flawed business strategy as you only make money if you're in the prem, not by selling on youngsters.

Question is, will we sell more of the players that have ties to a certain Agency.

[tomphil]

This Joyce thing has only come about because of their new manager regime anyway otherwise he'd be happy to plod on there. Also it seems that's his preferred choice if Jose asks him to stay. Some agent has put this together with the youth and Utd thing pitched to the V's and the old don't worry if Giggs takes over I've got you a cushy little number down the road at Blackburn as an option.

Load of old cobblers !

[Amo]

Same record win percentage wise roughly wasn't it must be done to a 1%?

Didn't think Lambert was up to much, he could have done better. His football was beyond dire, tactics questionnable and drew only negativity to the club. Other than Norwich the bloke hasn't done much has he? For an ex midfielder his sides prouduced the least in terms of control, creativity and possesion during games.

In the terms of Gaz better the devil you know.... looking at the names linked wouldn't you?

Bowyer had FIVE transfer windows and in that time signed 30 something odd players to shape the team into his own image, and ultimately he left us in a worse position than before he took over. We still had the financial cushion of the parachute payments during Bowyer's tenure and wasted it because the manager got vertigo any higher than 7th in the league. Admittedly, he exceeded expectations for a youth coach thrown in at the deep end but for a club whose long-term future hinged on promotion, he has to go down as an abject failure.

Lambert took over halfway through a relegation battle, inherited a squad depleted by FFP and had peanuts to spend on new recruits. That said, you could at least see the gameplan that he was trying to implement, even if it didn't always come off with the players he had at his disposal.

[USABlue]

Third time lucky after Kidd and Kean?

Oops that was Bowyer

Not quite the same as Kidd and Kean in reality though is it. Not sure what Bowyers full role was prior to taking over first team affairs. Kean was a coach, Kidd an assistant, nothing more either of them. If reports are to be believed Joyce has a role which is far more expansive than either of those two had prior to being made our manager.

Got a sneaky feeling this is the proverbial rabbit out of the hat, however I fully expect the two cocks and owd hen to pass on Joyce over some nit picky @#/?, and for Venkys to hire a complete numpty. We will all be complaining at a future date as his career takes off elsewhere.

Living in Hull and being an ex Hull City ST holder (under duress from my Father) I am one of the few people who have witnessed Joyce's management. He was unbelievable for Hull City as a player and player manager, taking over from Mark Hateley with the club well adrift at the bottom of division 3. With Joyce at the helm they miraculously avoided relegation against all odds. This season is remembered as the 'great escape' in these parts and from this lowest ebb in the clubs history, they have barely looked back since. I was really excited to hear he was linked with the rovers job as he is a legend in these parts. He created an amazing camaraderie and combined it with tactical nous. He has managed a club in dire straits before and is not just a coach! He has always done well in his career as player, manager, and youth coach. He is hard working and honest. I think he is worth a punt!

No no no, you must be making it up cos everyone on here tells me he has NO experience, or do theyean just.at.this level.

[tomphil]

You mean like Bowyer knew all the lads, remind me how did that work out?

Question is, will we sell more of the players that have ties to a certain Agency.

You mean like Bowyer knew all the lads, remind me how did that work out?

Question is, will we sell more of the players that have ties to a certain Agency.

A bit like that agent, agency and their mates who got into the club with the intention of running their clients through the first team of it. Plan B now for them.

[USABlue]

Haha it's fine by me guys, I'm big and ugly enough to take the banter on the chin. Plus, I understand how passionate people are. We all want to believe the stuff which fit into our beliefs. I am a Rovers fan who has several ties to football through friends and associates. I only ever pass the info I get from the horses mouth. I don't usually bother with the other stuff as it is usually gossip...

Two bits of info passed on recently both came from the person in question:

Moyes was sounded out by a rep of the club and is / was interested in the post. I'd imagine there were many in this boat and it's fairly obvious that this hasn't been developed by the club or Moyes.

On Tuesday I was told that Warren Joyce had been interviewed by Rovers for 3hrs (on Monday) and was awaiting confirmation on assurances before signing. Again horses mouth and that info broke in the media today and has been corroborated.

You win some, you lose some.

I apologise for the occasional condescending tone on here but in all honesty when you see people trying to pass stuff off as fact or calling you a liar when you actually got the info from Moyes, Joyce or whoever it does begin to grate...

On a lighter note, during one of my recent (last couple of weeks) exchanges with Athlete he was goading me about Moyes and I let slip that he was seething after missing out on the Villa job to an Italian....Di Matteo was 4/1 to get the villa job at that time...wondered if anyone had picked up on it. Don't usually miss much you lot!! Haha

Anyway, if I hear anything decent, I'll post it. Genuinely not for me. I live around this madness anyway. Just think I'd want to know...

Interesting....never miss much you pal!

For what it's worth I enjoy your posts and tid bits of info. Just.seems like some people have a hard time handling it when someone actually gets decent info. Carry on Mani.

[Amo]

Like his brother's wife...

Amazes me how lightly Giggsy Wiggsy got off for that.

John Terry shags a teammate's ex and he's the son of Satan.

Giggs has an affair with his brother's missus and no one bats an eyelid.

[JHRover]

Not quite the same as Kidd and Kean in reality though is it. Not sure what Bowyers full role was prior to taking over first team affairs. Kean was a coach, Kidd an assistant, nothing more either of them. If reports are to be believed Joyce has a role which is far more expansive than either of those two had prior to being made our manager.

Got a sneaky feeling this is the proverbial rabbit out of the hat, however I fully expect the two cocks and owd hen to pass on Joyce over some nit picky @#/?, and for Venkys to hire a complete numpty. We will all be complaining at a future date as his career takes off elsewhere.

No no no, you must be making it up cos everyone on here tells me he has NO experience, or do theyean just.at.this level.

If pulling off a miracle at the bottom of the 4th division seventeen years ago is the only management experience needed to manage Blackburn Rovers Football Club, a massive club in the annals of English football, along with all the other issues and problems that are associated with this club under Venkys management, then fair enough, he's probably a good shout.

I could probably write a list of about 50-60 names of managers who have done fantastic jobs in the last 15-20 years in the lower 2 divisions. That doesn't mean any of them would be acceptable as managers of Blackburn Rovers either. The name John Coleman rings a bell. Anyone want him as our next manager? Yet he's achieved more and learnt more in his time at Accrington Stanley than Joyce has ever achieved or learnt about management looking after a group of up and coming superstars recruited from across the globe at huge cost from one of the best scouting networks in the world.

Its my belief that less than a season managing Hull in the 4th division in the 90's does not make someone suitable to manage this wonderful football club, founder members, Premier League winners etc. etc. I don't accept that a decent reputation managing Man Utd's reserves qualifies him to be the top man at this club.

[Blackburn Ravers]

Pearson to Derby and we're still messing about, what an absolute shower

[USABlue]

Brian McDermott has been potted by Reading.

Strikes me as a one-hit wonder- manager, but He's better than most on our list.

Having said all that Reading looked a rag-tag outfit at Ewood, and on a similar spiral to Rovers (Cut backs etc).

NO, a one time flash in the pan success

Doesn't matter when they appoint, or who they appoint the same results will apply.

Sadly Gav you are 100% correct on that. I said that as soon as we knew Lambert would be off. They only way ANY manager coming in will be successful is with a huge slice of luck and something akin to turning water into wine.

A bit like that agent, agency and their mates who got into the club with the intention of running their clients through the first team of it. Plan B now for them.

Do you, or anyone else for that matter, suspect that they still have.some form of involvement. Sorry don't mean to drag things off topic.

[Amo]

I doubt JA is still on the scene, although I wouldn't rule out some of Venky's other cronies still hanging around to pick the bones clean.

[T J Hooker]

Amazes me how lightly Giggsy Wiggsy got off for that.

John Terry shags a teammate's ex and he's the son of Satan.

Giggs has an affair with his brother's missus and no one bats an eyelid.

He is Welsh though(sort of) So its hardly surprising and it is a step up from the local livestock

[G Somerset Rover]

I doubt JA is still on the scene, although I wouldn't rule out some of Venky's other cronies still hanging around to pick the bones clean.

Glen said he was 100% certain that his business are still in bed with Venkys.

[Amo]

Glen said he was 100% certain that his business are still in bed with Venkys.

To what end, though, Gavlar?

I just can't see us being a gravy train for agents when we haven't spent sod all for years.

Wouldn't it behoove them to get us back in the Premier League, where the money's at?

[Reedy You're A Star]

We signed a lot of players under and before bowyer. Whether for fees or frees, wages, agent fees and signing on fees still need paying. We're gonna sign quite a few other this summer to fill the squad. Probably with crap no one else wants. The agents will get a piece of those signing on fees and maybe wages, bonuses, etc. Better to have some cash coming in than none, you just need a desperate club with suckers / patsies to sign those players unlikely to ever get a contract at clubs at the level we are in the near future. Just need to find that patsy now the gamble of Paul Lambert and co getting the club / agents back on the PL gravy train, when the parachute payments were running out, failed.

[toogs]

To what end, though, Gavlar?

I just can't see us being a gravy train for agents when we haven't spent sod all for years.

Wouldn't it behoove them to get us back in the Premier League, where the money's at?

I'd hang around on the off chance more opportunities arose. There are different ways of making money. Keep you options open.

[Norbert Rassragr]

We probably generate the fees for their crap clients. Any agent can get millions when Ronaldo moves, but who'd want to buy Brown, or some pillock from the Portuguese 2nd tier and give agents the money for their 'services'?

[tomphil]

NO, a one time flash in the pan success

Sadly Gav you are 100% correct on that. I said that as soon as we knew Lambert would be off. They only way ANY manager coming in will be successful is with a huge slice of luck and something akin to turning water into wine.

Do you, or anyone else for that matter, suspect that they still have.some form of involvement. Sorry don't mean to drag things off topic.

I firmly believe and always have done that some others hold a stake in the club that entitles them to a say in what goes on. Who, what and how much god only knows. Also on the tantric dancer we have to remember he was a family friend long before the takeover. He also has an impressive address book and the V's are star struck star chasers as well as it coming in handy to publicise the chicken business. He'll still have the ear of one or two I reckon.

[G Somerset Rover]

To what end, though, Gavlar?

I just can't see us being a gravy train for agents when we haven't spent sod all for years.

Wouldn't it behoove them to get us back in the Premier League, where the money's at?

No idea mate; was just quoting what Glen had said. You're right though - they would have had slim pickings off us in the last couple of years that's for sure.

On a seperate note at least somebody at the club is urging some action with regards to the managerial search: https://www.clubcall.com/blackburn-rovers/corry-evans-urges-blackburn-to-step-up-manager-search-1811466.html