[Archived] Next Manager

[ABBEY]

A little research would tell you that he was heavily linked with the Hull City job in 2010 after they were relegated from the premier league. He was a very popular choice with the fans and people were disappointed when he publicly ruled himself out of the race. Naturally, experience 16yrs ago is no assurance of success, but managers from overseas who have never worked or played in England are just as distant from the reality of championship football as Joyce is, but no one would be disappointed if Guardiola decided to snub Man City in favour of the Rovers! If the poster is referring to myself as a 'Rovers Fan' then they should read my old posts. I detest the Venkys and am not usually especially positive about any aspect of the club this past 6 or 7 years. My opinion is empirical having actually seen the man play and manage a team ably rather than choosing to wallow and moan by just dismissing the poor man completely.

its not wallowing or moaning though its fecking ANGER

[patrickvalery]

It has to be said, if Lambert had been appointed and done what he did for, let's say fulham or Nottingham Forest, we'd all be saying he was a busted flush. Personally I feel he had the ability to get us close or in the playoffs with investment. That's would've kept me happy. What annoys me is the idea of an experienced manager lasted such a short time and is being binned before it really got started. Why revert to a idea which has failed before after years of opportunity but bin one which failed in the short term? I guess it comes down to how much each costs. But unsurprisingly that's pretty short sighted.

[tomphil]

This message board would have gone into meltdown when Ken Furphy sold a player two weeks after signing him, and in the close season to boot!

Fode Koita or whatever he was called, unknown comes in for a few hundred grand from some lower French league club. Gets some games at Championship level and a 10k pwk contract and bingo not long afer another foreign club spots him and thinks he must be ok to go from were he has to playing in the English Championship on a 10k pwk contract, we'll have him.

Now I wonder who's done ok out of that besides the player because it certainly isn't Blackburn Rovers football club !

Then think about all the obscure crap brought in under Keans reign whilst good players were sold. also the Formica, Rochina farce. Then a few under Bowyer and his insistence in playing certain players, often out of position, whilst there were better options in regards the team formation. Think of the Portugeezers, even Graham etc have been plonked in the shop window here under false pretences.

Not hard to see what's going on really and when you add in the rotating directors and managers moved on before they are allowed to gain a foothold and really start doing things properly. It all adds up, this club is a vehicle for other purposes and the first team standing, football and results are absolutely secondary. It stinks.

[Athlete]

Fode Koita or whatever he was called, unknown comes in for a few hundred grand from some lower French league club. Gets some games at Championship level and a 10k pwk contract and bingo not long afer another foreign club spots him and thinks he must be ok to go from were he has to playing in the English Championship on a 10k pwk contract, we'll have him.

Now I wonder who's done ok out of that besides the player because it certainly isn't Blackburn Rovers football club !

Then think about all the obscure crap brought in under Keans reign whilst good players were sold. also the Formica, Rochina farce. Then a few under Bowyer and his insistence in playing certain players, often out of position, whilst there were better options in regards the team formation. Think of the Portugeezers, even Graham etc have been plonked in the shop window here under false pretences.

Not hard to see what's going on really and when you add in the rotating directors and managers moved on before they are allowed to gain a foothold and really start doing things properly. It all adds up, this club is a vehicle for other purposes and the first team standing, football and results are absolutely secondary. It stinks.

Your post is absolutely 100percent bang on

[tomphil]

Your post is absolutely 100percent bang on

Cheers.

What else could explain people like Bruno Ribero etc pitching up here out of nowhere

[darrenrover]

Fode Koita or whatever he was called, unknown comes in for a few hundred grand from some lower French league club. Gets some games at Championship level and a 10k pwk contract and bingo not long afer another foreign club spots him and thinks he must be ok to go from were he has to playing in the English Championship on a 10k pwk contract, we'll have him.

Now I wonder who's done ok out of that besides the player because it certainly isn't Blackburn Rovers football club !

Then think about all the obscure crap brought in under Keans reign whilst good players were sold. also the Formica, Rochina farce. Then a few under Bowyer and his insistence in playing certain players, often out of position, whilst there were better options in regards the team formation. Think of the Portugeezers, even Graham etc have been plonked in the shop window here under false pretences.

Not hard to see what's going on really and when you add in the rotating directors and managers moved on before they are allowed to gain a foothold and really start doing things properly. It all adds up, this club is a vehicle for other purposes and the first team standing, football and results are absolutely secondary. It stinks.

I think you are spot on the money and is the intention to ramp it up? Club pays a loan fee, player gains experience and enhanced value, agent and other parasites pocket any added value.

[tomphil]

I think you are spot on the money and is the intention to ramp it up? Club pays a loan fee, player gains experience and enhanced value, agent and other parasites pocket any added value.

I'd say so, with the club stripped back and desperate for players now it's the ideal opportunity to start moving lesser players through it.

[T J Hooker]

Fode Koita or whatever he was called, unknown comes in for a few hundred grand from some lower French league club. Gets some games at Championship level and a 10k pwk contract and bingo not long afer another foreign club spots him and thinks he must be ok to go from were he has to playing in the English Championship on a 10k pwk contract, we'll have him.

Now I wonder who's done ok out of that besides the player because it certainly isn't Blackburn Rovers football club !

Then think about all the obscure crap brought in under Keans reign whilst good players were sold. also the Formica, Rochina farce. Then a few under Bowyer and his insistence in playing certain players, often out of position, whilst there were better options in regards the team formation. Think of the Portugeezers, even Graham etc have been plonked in the shop window here under false pretences.

Not hard to see what's going on really and when you add in the rotating directors and managers moved on before they are allowed to gain a foothold and really start doing things properly. It all adds up, this club is a vehicle for other purposes and the first team standing, football and results are absolutely secondary. It stinks.

how many players that have been signed during venkys ownership have been quickly sold for profit of any note(or just sold for profit)? i'll start you off- Gestede, ...

dont get me wrong, its clear that agents have definitely been taking the pish(especially in the first year or 2) with some of the god awful players they've sent our way, but i think weve been used more as a dumping ground than a shop window.

[patrickvalery]

I'm not sure I buy that 100%. Firstly Koita was a free transfer and was on a reported 10K. We sold him for a reported 244k. It's not a huge amount in the grand scheme of things. I'm not saying there's not dodgy powers at work at the club, but i'm not sure we can lay blame at the manager and the time he operated in. Bowyer had his hands tied that summer. I think if you could ask him he'd tell you just how frustrated he was.

Edit. I was replying to tomphil not tj

Edit again. Sorry I didn't read that you'd acknowledged the 10K pw

Edit further. I think I missed your point entirely in my rush to defend GB.

Apologies

[tomphil]

how many players that have been signed during venkys ownership have been quickly sold for profit of any note(or just sold for profit)? i'll start you off- Gestede, ...

dont get me wrong, its clear that agents have definitely been taking the pish(especially in the first year or 2) with some of the god awful players they've sent our way, but i think weve been used more as a dumping ground than a shop window.

Either way the agents get their cut especially if they 'dump' their clients here on a good wage which they'll no doubt get a % from. That's the whole point about it being an agents vehicle. Not even sure on the old sell for profit line either as they had a man to do that in Bowyer but even that was kyboshed.

You can't make transfer profit on many players in reality but you can make % especially going down the quantity not quality line.

I'm not sure I buy that 100%. Firstly Koita was a free transfer and was on a reported 10K. We sold him for a reported 244k. It's not a huge amount in the grand scheme of things. I'm not saying there's not dodgy powers at work at the club, but i'm not sure we can lay blame at the manager and the time he operated in. Bowyer had his hands tied that summer. I think if you could ask him he'd tell you just how frustrated he was.

Edit. I was replying to tomphil not tj

Edit again. Sorry I didn't read that you'd acknowledged the 10K pw

It's not a dig at Bowyer I'm highlighting agents running the show and making their percentages. Gaz was a yes man so he'd just toe the party line and yes he was desperate for players. He might have had the say on the player but you can bet he could only pick from a certain list handed to him by an agent or the club.

[47er]

The longer it goes on... the more likely Irvine will get the gig.

And that's probably the best we can hope for.

[scotty_beam_me_up]

And that's probably the best we can hope for.

Irvine 33-1 best bet since leicester

[Colt Seavers]

I believe that, no matter who we appoint, we are bound for League One next season.I cannot envisage any other scenario in view of the chronic lack of players, lack of funds and the likelihood of us losing our best players this summer.

Therefore, it is crucial that our next manager is the right appointment and that he is given time to rebuild following relegation. Only then can we begin to recover. We are many years from a return to the premiership. I don't blame Lambert for quitting. The Die is cast!

[USABlue]

That's Evans a goner then

First thing that popped in my mind too.

[RevidgeBlue]

So, conspiracy theories aside, no movement on the new manager then?

What about the latest rumours that Joyce was all but done and dusted.s

Load of old tosh?

(Not having a go at anyone I genuinely haven't followed events or lack thereof yesterday)

[Speedie Dived]

So, conspiracy theories aside, no movement on the new manager then?

What about the latest rumours that Joyce was all but done and dusted.s

Load of old tosh?

(Not having a go at anyone I genuinely haven't followed events or lack thereof yesterday)

Joyce interviewed etc, just waiting for assurances on control etc. He will get word back from Pune about Christmas.

[chaddyrovers]

Slade was interviewed along with Warnock and Joyce

But Stubbs, Neil Redfearn, Craig Hignett, Gareth Ainsworth, Keith Hill, Billy Davies, did not make the interview stage.

Stubbs is now a managerial target

http://m.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/14522415.Russell_Slade_interviewed_for_Blackburn_Rovers_job_____but_he_is_also_wanted_by_Charlton_Athletic/?ref=mac

So who is the 4th name? Is it Alex McLeish? Nigel Adkins? Ian Cathro?

[ABBEY]

must be true then

[Iceman]

Derby appoint Nigel Pearson. And Rovers appoint Forest Gump

[arbitro]

Slade was interviewed along with Warnock and Joyce

But Stubbs, Neil Redfearn, Craig Hignett, Gareth Ainsworth, Keith Hill, Billy Davies, did not make the interview stage.

Stubbs is now a managerial target

http://m.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/14522415.Russell_Slade_interviewed_for_Blackburn_Rovers_job_____but_he_is_also_wanted_by_Charlton_Athletic/?ref=mac

So who is the 4th name? Is it Alex McLeish? Nigel Adkins? Ian Cathro?

A close friend who works for Cardiff and is fully briefed about goings on rang me last week. He was critical of Slade as a tactician and man manager, real old school with no use of science or technology. The players were glad to see the back of him. I asked myself how we could be linked with this guy who is pretty much a low ranked manager then I remembered my friend telling me some time ago that Slade was married to a Malaysian woman who is a friend of Vincent Tans wife. The Malaysian link was also mentioned as he said Shebby Singh was understood to be advising Tan.

I wonder if the Slade link to Rovers is because Singh is still advising the lunatics (as mentioned by somebody on here recently).

This is conjecture on my part but it seems more than coincidental.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

And that's probably the best we can hope for.

I quite agree.

[Athlete]

Interestingly were in competition with Rotherham for managers just like we'll be to stay in the Championship along with the 3 promoted clubs

[Mike Graham]

An ITK source from within the Club told me in the pub last night that Rovers are going to be groundbreaking and announce a female manager who will bring her own all women team.

My source mentioned someone called Di Ross. Has anyone heard of her please? Do you think she is supreme?

[islander200]

Slade was interviewed along with Warnock and Joyce

But Stubbs, Neil Redfearn, Craig Hignett, Gareth Ainsworth, Keith Hill, Billy Davies, did not make the interview stage.

Stubbs is now a managerial target

http://m.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/14522415.Russell_Slade_interviewed_for_Blackburn_Rovers_job_____but_he_is_also_wanted_by_Charlton_Athletic/?ref=mac

So who is the 4th name? Is it Alex McLeish? Nigel Adkins? Ian Cathro?

Last week the let said that Redfearn had been interviewed?I recall wheelock emphatically saying that Redfearn had been interviewed on his Twitter account.They don't have a clue

[Claytons Left Boot]

An ITK source from within the Club told me in the pub last night that Rovers are going to be groundbreaking and announce a female manager who will bring her own all women team.

My source mentioned someone called Di Ross. Has anyone heard of her please? Do you think she is supreme?

I don't think we should rush into this manager malarkey. We need to really take our time and get it right. In fact.....

You can't hurry, love, you just gotta wait, it's a game of give and take......I'll get me coat.

Actually, Diana Ross is a better candidate to all those on our shortlist, bar Warnock.