[Archived] Next Manager

[arbitro]

Is this the idea then? Bring in Coyle and then use a certain agency to fill up the ranks? Haven't we been down that route before? And didn't it end in relegation?

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein

[Pedro]

Graeme Barrow by any chance Wigans Mr untouchable who hisself is regarded as a joke at Wigan

Before you come out with stupid childish comments my links and information out of wigan are very reliable

The only thing in coyles favour he can get team spirit going

Duff, who has just retired from Burnley echoes the sentiments of Mani (re Coyle). Poor training regime, poor dietary standards - all about the 'banter' with Coyle.

We are a shambolic club as it is, we don't need to go back to unfit, matey boy management.

[rovers11]

This is an absolute disgrace from the owners. They are insulting every single person who supports or works at this club.

You can't turn down the two Ian's offer and then act like this. How on earth can a manager not have been appointed by now? Appalling.

I hate to say it, but come May next year, relegation to league 1 will be no more than Venkys deserve.

[BlueMonday]

Could it be the case that Rovers name is so toxic they can't get a manager to work for them, so have had to turn back to Kentaro to supply a manger.

Who of course would be more than willing to get one of their men on the inside again.

[JHRover]

Day 33 since Paul Lambert announced his resignation, there beginning one of the most embarrassing and flawed managerial searches ever seen.

I could accept a delay of this length if there was a raft of exciting, quality, first rate managers queuing round the block for the job and someone qualified was busy sifting through the applications and making sure that whoever got the job was the undisputed best man for the job. But we all know that won't be what happens. We all know that whoever gets the job will be an underwhelming, under-qualified man. It will be a toss up between getting another yes man desperate for the job who will gratefully accept whatever hand he is dealt or at best someone like Warnock or Davies who might last a year if we're lucky before a major fallout takes place and we have to find another manager.

Only Leeds are comparable to this madness, and at least their owner has been busy attempting to appoint a manager, only to be knocked back repeatedly. These people can't even get to the stage of deciding upon a target.

League One is looking like a formality at this stage.

God help us.

[Athlete]

Duff, who has just retired from Burnley echoes the sentiments of Mani (re Coyle). Poor training regime, poor dietary standards - all about the 'banter' with Coyle.

We are a shambolic club as it is, we don't need to go back to unfit, matey boy management.

With Coyle it's all about banter spirit etc it's his only way......

the SEM/kentaro links making it very very hard to swallow

tbh we are scraping the barrel some of the names linked with in the not too distant past we'd of been embarrassed

[chaddyrovers]

Very true Rovers11.

Appalling behaviour from the owners

[rovers11]

Could it be the case that Rovers name is so toxic they can't get a manager to work for them, so have had to turn back to Kentaro to supply a manger.

Who of course would be more than willing to get one of their men on the inside again.

I think it's the case that Rovers are very low priority for them. From a business point of view, we offer them nothing so they're going to put their energy into their profit making ventures.

[JHRover]

Could it be the case that Rovers name is so toxic they can't get a manager to work for them, so have had to turn back to Kentaro to supply a manger.

Who of course would be more than willing to get their man on the inside again.

I don't think so. Cellino has a much worse reputation than Venkys and yet he's managed (until recently) to recruit managers.

Whilst we may not get another manager of Lambert's calibre and reputation, there are lots and lots of managers out there who would jump at the chance to get back into management at a Championship club of this size. We've already seen attempts from the likes of Davies and McLeish to drum up interest in them by planted media reports. There will be lots of others. Warnock was clearly receptive to the idea - he didn't dismiss it in the media and it appears there were at least some sort of talks with him before it fell flat.

I think this is a combination of Venkys indecisiveness along with a reluctance to pay the new man a months salary before pre-season starts. They really are so clueless that they probably think they are being clever by avoiding paying a new manager to be in place through the summer, failing to realise the damage it is doing to our chances next season.

We've come full circle. In November we had almost unbelievable decisiveness and quick thinking when appointing Lambert and his staff, now they are making up for that by taking months to find a new man after they caused Lambert to walk.

Its been 54 days since Lambert claimed he had told the club he was off, and 33 days since he went public with his decision. That is disgusting, but not surprising for an amateur outfit with no directors.

[rovers11]

Day 33 since Paul Lambert announced his resignation, there beginning one of the most embarrassing and flawed managerial searches ever seen.

I could accept a delay of this length if there was a raft of exciting, quality, first rate managers queuing round the block for the job and someone qualified was busy sifting through the applications and making sure that whoever got the job was the undisputed best man for the job. But we all know that won't be what happens. We all know that whoever gets the job will be an underwhelming, under-qualified man. It will be a toss up between getting another yes man desperate for the job who will gratefully accept whatever hand he is dealt or at best someone like Warnock or Davies who might last a year if we're lucky before a major fallout takes place and we have to find another manager.

Only Leeds are comparable to this madness, and at least their owner has been busy attempting to appoint a manager, only to be knocked back repeatedly. These people can't even get to the stage of deciding upon a target.

League One is looking like a formality at this stage.

God help us.

The interviews were done over a week ago, and recommendations were sent to Venkys. I don't think we can even blame the board (well, Mike Cheston) on this one. The blame squarely lies at the owners door.

Of course we'll be relegated next season and deservedly so.

[Stuart]

Day 33 since Paul Lambert announced his resignation, there beginning one of the most embarrassing and flawed managerial searches ever seen.

I could accept a delay of this length if there was a raft of exciting, quality, first rate managers queuing round the block for the job and someone qualified was busy sifting through the applications and making sure that whoever got the job was the undisputed best man for the job. But we all know that won't be what happens. We all know that whoever gets the job will be an underwhelming, under-qualified man. It will be a toss up between getting another yes man desperate for the job who will gratefully accept whatever hand he is dealt or at best someone like Warnock or Davies who might last a year if we're lucky before a major fallout takes place and we have to find another manager.

Only Leeds are comparable to this madness, and at least their owner has been busy attempting to appoint a manager, only to be knocked back repeatedly. These people can't even get to the stage of deciding upon a target.

League One is looking like a formality at this stage.

God help us.

You could add another 3 or 4 weeks to that timescale from when he made his feelings known to the club.

The worst of it is that Venkys will not even accept that it is their fault. Privately, I expect that they will blame Lambert for his failure to "toe the line".

[rovers11]

I don't think so. Cellino has a much worse reputation than Venkys and yet he's managed (until recently) to recruit managers.

Whilst we may not get another manager of Lambert's calibre and reputation, there are lots and lots of managers out there who would jump at the chance to get back into management at a Championship club of this size. We've already seen attempts from the likes of Davies and McLeish to drum up interest in them by planted media reports. There will be lots of others. Warnock was clearly receptive to the idea - he didn't dismiss it in the media and it appears there were at least some sort of talks with him before it fell flat.

I think this is a combination of Venkys indecisiveness along with a reluctance to pay the new man a months salary before pre-season starts. They really are so clueless that they probably think they are being clever by avoiding paying a new manager to be in place through the summer, failing to realise the damage it is doing to our chances next season.

We've come full circle. In November we had almost unbelievable decisiveness and quick thinking when appointing Lambert and his staff, now they are making up for that by taking months to find a new man after they caused Lambert to walk.

Its been 54 days since Lambert claimed he had told the club he was off, and 33 days since he went public with his decision. That is disgusting, but not surprising for an amateur outfit with no directors.

You think Venkys are smart enough to think about saving money on a manager's wage and that's partly the reason for the delay in appointing one? I very much doubt that. They're not clever enough to think along those lines.

[Pedro]

Maybe we are after the next up and coming young manager and we are stalling for either:

A - Them to become a free agent.

B - That person to finish their GCSE PE coursework.

C - Hit puberty.

[yoda]

I don't think so. Cellino has a much worse reputation than Venkys and yet he's managed (until recently) to recruit managers.

Whilst we may not get another manager of Lambert's calibre and reputation, there are lots and lots of managers out there who would jump at the chance to get back into management at a Championship club of this size. We've already seen attempts from the likes of Davies and McLeish to drum up interest in them by planted media reports. There will be lots of others. Warnock was clearly receptive to the idea - he didn't dismiss it in the media and it appears there were at least some sort of talks with him before it fell flat.

I think this is a combination of Venkys indecisiveness along with a reluctance to pay the new man a months salary before pre-season starts. They really are so clueless that they probably think they are being clever by avoiding paying a new manager to be in place through the summer, failing to realise the damage it is doing to our chances next season.

We've come full circle. In November we had almost unbelievable decisiveness and quick thinking when appointing Lambert and his staff, now they are making up for that by taking months to find a new man after they caused Lambert to walk.

Its been 54 days since Lambert claimed he had told the club he was off, and 33 days since he went public with his decision. That is disgusting, but not surprising for an amateur outfit with no directors.

No one has worse reputation than the Venky's, rest of post OK

[RibbleValleyRover]

Could it be the case that Rovers name is so toxic they can't get a manager to work for them, so have had to turn back to Kentaro to supply a manger.

Who of course would be more than willing to get one of their men on the inside again.

It's certainly possible. Managers rarely walk away from a club and into unemployment, if it gets tough they just usually sit it out and wait to get paid off. Some of these managers applying for the job will want to know why Lambert walked.

[JHRover]

The interviews were done over a week ago, and recommendations were sent to Venkys. I don't think we can even blame the board (well, Mike Cheston) on this one. The blame squarely lies at the owners door.

Of course we'll be relegated next season and deservedly so.

If the rumoured 'candidates' are true then I do, at least partly, blame Cheston. If he genuinely thinks that people like Hignett, Joyce, Redfearn, Hill, Ainsworth and Slade are remotely acceptable managers for this football club, especially in our current state with no players and extremely unhappy fanbase, then he clearly doesn't know what he is doing.

Of course if that is all false and he's interviewed decent, proven, quality managers for the position then he can't be blamed.

But all the evidence so far points to him interviewing pathetic names for the job, so if one of them gets it then he has played his part by way of his recommendation. Not really surprising when he's our financial director and presumably will prioritise getting the best value for money over the most quality and exciting options.

Now it seems Cheston's role was inconsequential in any event, because whatever recommendation he has made looks to have been ignored completely.

[yoda]

Maybe they have already appointed a manager and can't/dare not let it out!

Still trying to decide how to spin it,

Cheston gone on holiday saying I am not annoucing that, Venky's saying no probes, will announce when you get back.

www.confused.com.in

Bunch of silver spoon useless no marks

[arbitro]

Two out of the three clubs promoted in the play-offs at he weekend had managers who are in their first jobs. Paul Heckinbottom went into the game (and still officially is) caretaker manager and their form since he was appointed as caretaker is nothing short of remarkable. Neal Ardley has also been excellent at AFC Wimbledon since his appointment in 2012 despite having no ground and no training facilities of their own. I heard Dave Bassett say yesterday that AFC Wimbledon used him and another ex manager to interview candidates for the job. The third of the promoted managers (Steve Bruce) has lots of experience.

Using these three as a yardstick arguments about experienced or inexperienced managers can both be used for and against. The most important thing is getting the right man irrespective of the levels of experience. Either way it will be a gamble but with the unnecessary delay Rovers are really disadvantaging themselves.

[chaddyrovers]

Didnt Hill, Redfearn, Ainsworth and Hignett not even make the shortlist?

[davulsukur]

Maybe we are after the next up and coming young manager and we are stalling for either:

A - Them to become a free agent.

B - That person to finish their GCSE PE coursework.

C - Hit puberty.

Come on, be fair, the lad will be working his notice at McDonalds.

[yoda]

Come on, be fair, the lad will be working his notice at McDonalds.

Venky's Xpress more like, keep it in the family

[tomphil]

This is an absolute disgrace from the owners. They are insulting every single person who supports or works at this club.

You can't turn down the two Ian's offer and then act like this. How on earth can a manager not have been appointed by now? Appalling.

I hate to say it, but come May next year, relegation to league 1 will be no more than Venkys deserve.

They certainly deserve it but the fans and club don't however these idiots just do not care. The further the club falls down the more excuse to slash costs and the cheaper, less hassle it is to them now. Add in it will be easier for their agent mates to run their clients through the books and any big sales will represent more profit.

It's the only way to make any cash for any investors now the parachutes have stopped. Proper franchise fc stuff.

[JHRover]

Didnt Hill, Redfearn, Ainsworth and Hignett not even make the shortlist?

Who knows, I wouldn't believe a word that is written in the Lancashire Telegraph though.

[J*B]

Still 100/1 to be relegated in both of the next 2 seasons with Paddy Power, FYI.

[BigBeard]

Judan Ali has now gone from 33/1 to 18/1 ...... this is more like Venkys choice..... a throw up between Judan Ali and Owen Coyle .... which one would you choose guys.