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[JBiz]

If that LET article turns out to be correct then I'll have to consider going to get new golf clubs. Can't stick Owen Coyle, can't stick this deliberate con.

[AggyBlue]

I wouldn't be at all happy with the appointment of Coyle but I wouldn't be at all happy with the appointment of people like Jewell, Slade, Redfearn, or Joyce either. Can't see that Coyle is any worse than any of those others mentioned.

He's worse because he's managed Bumley and backed Kean against our fans

[RevidgeBlue]

He's worse because he's managed Bumley and backed Kean against our fans

Personally I'm concerned by the fact I don't think he's good enough based on his recent record.

I'm not that bothered by the fact he's managed Burnley, he's neither a Blackburn nor a Burnley fan so to him it's just a job.

I wouldn't really expect him to do anything else at the time than stand up for a fellow manager (Kean) either. Should we reject Moyes for the same reason if he were interested as well? Of course not.

I am surprised though that he would not realise he'd be an extremely unpopular appointment and would be on a hiding to nothing. Or perhaps he does realise and perhaps Lambert has started an unwelcome trend of people simply here to fill their boots on a short term basis if things don't work out immediately.

[JBiz]

Started an unwelcome trend? We've been shopping for managers more in the past 6 years than we had in my life up to that point.

Coyle comes in. Signs a load more tosh with right representatives. Gets sacked at Christmas. Another from inside of adisors or rookie in club takes over and makes do, pays off or benches tosh. Rinse repeat.

[A cup of beans]

Coyle's a piece of @#/?. As uninspiring as the other names mentioned are and despite my unhappiness, they'd have a clean slate from me. Coyley though? No chance. This is two fingers to the fans.

Raging. It's beyond insulting. Coyle should be nowhere near ewood park, and I won't be while he's in charge.

Saturday afternoons will be upsetting, for me.

I couldnt bring myself to support this regime (owners and management)

[AggyBlue]

Saturday afternoons will be upsetting, for me.

Just do some away days, don't totally get out of the habit of supporting the team

[Exiled in Toronto]

At least this proves the point we couldn't do worse than Gary Bowyer. Oh....

The Burnley link should be irrelevant - We cheered Blacklaw and Connelly - plus it'll make us seem small-minded and deflect from the real issue: who exactly appointed him?

[A cup of beans]

Just do some away days, don't totally get out of the habit of supporting the team

I understand the sentiment, but I cannot do it.

This club was my everything and hope it will be again.

Think of him with the Rovers badge on his chest 😔

[Crimpshrine]

I'm hoping this Coyle business is all a smoke screen so that when they appoint someone else it won't seem so bad. The runours do seem to be gaining some credence though.

If he is appointed it will be a disaster from day one. I can honestly imagine 'Coyle Out' chants at his first match - if anyone attends.

I am almost at the point where I would be wanting Rovers to lose matches in order to justify our completely negative feelings towards this appointment should it happen. It would be SK all over again.

If the SEM/Kentaro links are true then it is beyond belief. What the hell goes through Venky's minds ? If this happens it can only point to complete corruption and some sort of money making scam. That or complete lunacy.

We, the fans, must take action in a massive and effective way. We can't let Rovers die without a fight.

Venky's out

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Good feckin God!

This man will tow the Venky line without hesitation.Didn't even make the above poll..tells its own tale.

[tonyoz]

The parameters laid down by Venkys seem to have made it impossible for any "decent" manager to consider the post. We are left with a field of no-hopers who are desperate for a job, no matter what the restrictions or conditions.

How these guys continue to find employment amazes me.

[perthblue02]

Five and a half years on , and still worth a read

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2010/dec/21/blackburn-rovers-venkys-jerome-anderson

[cop]

When Coyle's availability became apparent (this would've been sewn up days, or even maybe weeks ago by the way) you would've thought someone around the table would've said:

"Hmmm Owen eh? I not so sure boys, the fans'll lynch us if we bring him in... Jerome, just put your phone down for just a second. It'll be commercial suicide if you ask me. I think we'll be safer with someone the fans know, someone who can continue what Gary and Paul started, someone like Slade, Warnock or even Stubsy at Hibs... Jerome, your phones flashing again, I think you've got a text mate... If they're not interested how about bringing in a coach looking to make the step up... Maybe Joycey at Man Utd? He'll be considering his job security with Jose taking over there... Oh what's that? Owen quit as manager, and is coming back England? Wait, who were you texting?"

[RevidgeBlue]

The parameters laid down by Venkys seem to have made it impossible for any "decent" manager to consider the post. We are left with a field of no-hopers who are desperate for a job, no matter what the restrictions or conditions.

How these guys continue to find employment amazes me.

Nail on head there. Seems like we've been turned down by those who we initially turned to and are now just scraping around for anyone who'll take it.

Started an unwelcome trend? We've been shopping for managers more in the past 6 years than we had in my life up to that point.

Coyle comes in. Signs a load more tosh with right representatives. Gets sacked at Christmas. Another from inside of adisors or rookie in club takes over and makes do, pays off or benches tosh. Rinse repeat.

Good points but a different argument from the one I was making.

The other previous managers were sacked and didn't walk out nor did they ask for a release clause in their contract as far we know. I find it hard to believe Lambert ever envisaged being here beyond the end of last season otherwise there would have been no reason whatsoever to ask for a release clause. Either stay the duration and succeed or fail at some point and get paid off. Similarly if Coyle is unbelievably thick I find it impossible to think he would be approaching this from anything other than a point of view that he'll give it a quick go and if it doesn't work out he'll blame it on the lack of support from the owners and furthermore if the treatment of him by the fans is particularly brutal, he'll portray himself as the victim in the national media in an effort to ensure that the experience does not tarnish his already waning reputation still further.

Must admit I'm surprised by the depth of feeling on the subject. I would see it as a poor but not particularly provocative appointment. As I'm clearly in the minority however there's no way we should even consider appointing him.

[JBiz]

Attempt at thinking for anyone with modicum experience of watching football broken down;

1. Good appointment; someone with potential, or proven managed eg Warnock, Martinez, Rowett, etc

2. More risky appointment e.g. Slade, Evans, lower league successes, foreign managers etc

3. Absolute barrel scraping or ultimate risks eg Readfearn, Kelly, Irvine, Joyce etc

Owen Coyle is way below any of them IMO. Some early success, but his recent record (last 3 jobs) tells a story, with the added tonic of his "questionable" methods, links to the people behind the owners "advice" without even mentioning he managed to local clubs, one a fierce enemy.

[perthblue02]

Owen Coyle is way below any of them IMO. Some early success, but his recent record (last 3 jobs) tells a story, with the added tonic of his "questionable" methods, links to the people behind the owners "advice" without even mentioning he managed to local clubs, one a fierce enemy.

http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/it-s-no-surprise-that-the-houston-dynamo-owen-coyle-marriage-ended-in-flames-052616

""It never made sense to begin with."

Whereas at Venky's Agent run franchise fully endorsed by the FA FC it makes perfect sense

[Norbert Rassragr]

So it sounds like SEM Rovers are hiring Coyle today. And what does the FA do with what increasingly looks like a breach of their 3rd party ownership rules? Nothing because they're on their knees kissing Tantric's testicles. Football is dying of cancer. It may look healthy on the outside, but it is very ill.

[jw_]

Looks like history is about to be repeated just change Kean to Coyle and it's obvious to a blind man who is really involved but the FA can't or won't see it.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2010/dec/21/blackburn-rovers-venkys-jerome-anderson

[BigBeard]

This is a travesty of the greatest order...I am sorry but I can't support this decision Owen coyle Ffs....I am afraid the club has sank to a new low only when you can't think it can get worse.... Venkys I don't believe have any say in this clubs affairs but it would appear SEM are the ones with control which means our club is just a toy for an agent and for the club to get abused for money......very very sad for all true rovers fans

[Parsonblue]

At least this proves the point we couldn't do worse than Gary Bowyer. Oh....

The Burnley link should be irrelevant - We cheered Blacklaw and Connelly - plus it'll make us seem small-minded and deflect from the real issue: who exactly appointed him?

As one who loved Blacklaw and Connelly I totally agree with that point. The reason for not wanting Coyle is simple - he isn't very good at managing a football club as his time at Bolton, Wigan and Houston have shown. You make an excellent point about who is involved in the process of appointing a manager - with our one active director supposedly on holiday it is clearly not him. In fifty odd years of supporting this club this will be the first time that I will be shouting for the manager's head before he sets foot in the place if it turns out to be Coyle. It's almost as if they are determined to have an empty stadium next season.

[Iceman]

@#/? the press it's time to get personal.

Absolutely, no more bloody hiding now. We have to up the pressure in a big way.

Mullan its time mate. Reveal what ever you know, if you dont want to or know who does, now is the time. Enough of this nonsense now

This is a guy who criticised our fans during the Kean days. @#/? him

[Stuart]

Personally I'm concerned by the fact I don't think he's good enough based on his recent record.

I'm not that bothered by the fact he's managed Burnley, he's neither a Blackburn nor a Burnley fan so to him it's just a job.

I wouldn't really expect him to do anything else at the time than stand up for a fellow manager (Kean) either. Should we reject Moyes for the same reason if he were interested as well? Of course not.

I am surprised though that he would not realise he'd be an extremely unpopular appointment and would be on a hiding to nothing. Or perhaps he does realise and perhaps Lambert has started an unwelcome trend of people simply here to fill their boots on a short term basis if things don't work out immediately.

After 5 years of hell before him and the total farce since he left, you still hold Lambert responsible.

Utterly ridiculous.

[Grez]

From Cheston Interview 3 weeks ago...

Do you have a type of manager in mind?

Somebody with the right credentials, somebody who impresses us, and somebody who has good ideas about the way they want to take the team forward. He has to be mindful of the fact that next year we will not have parachute payments, and that we will have to operate within FFP. So he will have to be well aware of that and also have a good record of bringing players through an academy. There is a lot of good work being done in our academy and in our under-21s. The under-18s and under-21s have both had excellent seasons.

Is that man out there?

There are a lot of quality candidates out there. Some of them may not be as well known. There are a lot of managers who have come through at other clubs like Eddie Howe. We just need to speak to the people that know the experts and thats why were having a consultancy process. There are a lot of quality candidates out there.

[mhead]

Anyone good at Crowdfunding applications?

its time for the " VenkysOut " Black scarf.

This is like the deliberate murder of our Club.

[K-Hod]

If that dossier exists, put up or shut up FFS.