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Do you think Lambert leaving might have influenced him?

Personally, I don't think it would have made any difference arbitro, if Newcastle had come calling. He's at that stage in his career where the next move would be the 'big' one for him in terms of length of contract and wages. Newcastle offers him a big stage and within twelve months he will no doubt be back in the Premier League. Even if Lambert had stayed with some sort of budget I doubt we could have come anywhere close to challenging Newcastle. I suspect the same will happen with Marshall and Duffy, who are both at a stage where they probably think it's now or never in terms of making a move and getting a better deal than on offer at Ewood. It's becoming increasing clear that if you don't get back within a couple of years of being relegated from the Premier League you gradually become a Championship club in terms of mind set and finances - there have been so many examples of that over the years - and your better players leave rather than be stranded in the Championship.

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...I was saying to Newcastle specifically.

I don't know, I'm guessing his agent put feelers out. OJF was adamant he'd go rangers, we also had bids from (allegedly)Norwich and Fulham...

Lot of smoke!

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Personally, I don't think it would have made any difference arbitro, if Newcastle had come calling. He's at that stage in his career where the next move would be the 'big' one for him in terms of length of contract and wages. Newcastle offers him a big stage and within twelve months he will no doubt be back in the Premier League. Even if Lambert had stayed with some sort of budget I doubt we could have come anywhere close to challenging Newcastle. I suspect the same will happen with Marshall and Duffy, who are both at a stage where they probably think it's now or never in terms of making a move and getting a better deal than on offer at Ewood. It's becoming increasing clear that if you don't get back within a couple of years of being relegated from the Premier League you gradually become a Championship club in terms of mind set and finances - there have been so many examples of that over the years - and your better players leave rather than be stranded in the Championship.

Indeed. A shame we've wasted the past few years on novice managers really, as a decent manager with the squad from 2013-2015 would likely have had us at least in a playoff position.

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Indeed. A shame we've wasted the past few years on novice managers really, as a decent manager with the squad from 2013-2015 would likely have had us at least in a playoff position.

You know what I think maybe even Coyle would've touched the play offs with that squad :)

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I don't know, I'm guessing his agent put feelers out. OJF was adamant he'd go rangers, we also had bids from (allegedly)Norwich and Fulham...

Lot of smoke!

That's true. Rangers ended up spending their money on Barton and the Croatian lad's wages and probably wouldn't have stretched to the fee that the Geordies have paid us. Hanley was always likely to leave and I don't think anyone can blame him for the particular choice he has made. Massive club, world class manager, and a realistic chance of being back in the premier league in 12 months time. The polar opposite of what we are and have at the moment.
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You know what I think maybe even Coyle would've touched the play offs with that squad :)

To be fair, we touched the playoffs for roughly 30 minutes or so one saturday during that time, if memory serves... for a fleeting moment, we reached the lofty heights of 6th in the Championship, a good time to be a Rovers fan.

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Interestingly, the two Newcastle fans I know in Glasgow (both Scottish lads) are not particularly happy at the prospect of Hanley being their centre half this season and think £5.5 million is about £5.4 million too much?!

(I assume based on his international performances).

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You can't blam Hanley for leaving at all, fans have gone in their thousands and the club is clearly heading south. Assuming behind the scenes is a bad as it looks from the outside I feel anyone who attracts bid would wana leave. This club has a Cancer called venkys

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If we'd have kept hold of Cairney, Gestede, King, Rhodes, Olsson, or spent the money raised on rebuilding and developing a strong squad, or armed Paul Lambert with a hefty transfer budget, or operated like a professional football club should, then we'd probably have been able to persuade Hanley that his long term future aspirations could be achieved here.

But sadly we're now another player down. 16 senior outfield players it is and with the real prospect of Duffy and Marshall leaving very soon.

Relegation is inevitable unless significant strengthening takes place soon.

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And the leading question now is who is next. We are running out of players with any real value (and quality) so the bottom of the barrel will soon be scraped.

Duffy and Marshall, possibly Evans.

They'll be praying Captain Marvel has a good season so they can cash in on him next summer as well.

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Duffy and Marshall, possibly Evans.

They'll be praying Captain Marvel has a good season so they can cash in on him next summer as well.

Who's they?

If you mean the owners, I doubt they've even heard of GH.

There are plenty of bellyaching here without random smoke and mirrors posts.

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Well somebody is 'advising' them on who to sell and who is worth what. I wonder who that could be?

I reckon I could make a pretty good guess at that and also would suggest that someone at the club, has never heard of him.

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Well somebody is 'advising' them on who to sell and who is worth what. I wonder who that could be?

That's what I asked. If the answer is "the bank" then it's rather unsurprising looking at the accounts.

Our inability to invest is a result of huge mistakes, our inability to keep our best players is a symptom of this.

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It's becoming increasing clear that if you don't get back within a couple of years of being relegated from the Premier League you gradually become a Championship club in terms of mind set and finances - there have been so many examples of that over the years - and your better players leave rather than be stranded in the Championship.

You weren't saying that over the last couple of years when your mate was in charge. Stability was your motto then, defending the mediocrity of Bowyer and now we suffer. Bowyer had a top six squad but a league 2 mentality.

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You weren't saying that over the last couple of years when your mate was in charge. Stability was your motto then, defending the mediocrity of Bowyer and now we suffer. Bowyer had a top six squad but a league 2 mentality.

And he inherited a champions league wage bill, a bunch assembled through some list in Switzerland and a team staring back to back relegation in the face.

Why drag up GB? It's got absolutely nothing to do with the point just personal prodding once again!

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You weren't saying that over the last couple of years when your mate was in charge. Stability was your motto then, defending the mediocrity of Bowyer and now we suffer. Bowyer had a top six squad but a league 2 mentality.

I thought Bowyer did a more than decent job under the circumstances in which he was working. He had to get the wage bill down, whilst trying to keep the club in the Championship - a task he successfully managed. The reason we are where we are goes back to the appointment of Kean and the signing of numerous players by certain individuals who were on wages that simply couldn't be sustained - particularly when the players proved to be inadequate for the job that was needed. It was Bowyer who brought in the likes of Gestede and Conway that improved the squad.

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That's what I asked. If the answer is "the bank" then it's rather unsurprising looking at the accounts.

Our inability to invest is a result of huge mistakes, our inability to keep our best players is a symptom of this.

Very likely BOI you would imagine. What doesn't sit easy is who is advising the club re: price of saleable assets and the actual whoring around of said players. Cheston doesn't know his arse from his elbow so that rules him out.

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Very likely BOI you would imagine. What doesn't sit easy is who is advising the club re: price of saleable assets and the actual whoring around of said players. Cheston doesn't know his arse from his elbow so that rules him out.

He isn't fit to wipe my elbow!

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