[Archived] No To Coyle

[tugayislegend]

Is it so hard just to organise the team to play for a clean sheet?

Need to go back to basics, may even need to play with a 5 man midfield.

If coyle has lost the dressing room, there is no hope....

[whiteinpeace]

As a Bolton fan, with a soft spot for Blackburn (apart from when we play you) seriously, get this bloke out as quickly as you can. He will do real damage and is absolutely not the man for this sort of situation. I'm sure you know this, but he is an absolute liability who will set you back years and years if given the chance.

Easily the worst Bolton manager I've ever seen we are still trying to cope with his legacy now. Overpaid for shockingly bad players, gave them huge contracts then wanted more and more new signings despite not getting the results.

His idea of organisation is to hold a ping pong championship. He will harm your club more than you can imagine.

Even though your owners are a huge problem do not underestimate Coyle and how much harm he can do.

And listen out for his post match interviews count how many times he'll say "we'll work hard on the training ground to put this right" or words to that effect. Someone needs to be brave and ask him "when Owen will you ever get it right".

[JHRover]

I don't think Coyle has lost the dressing room. I think the club has lost the dressing room. When you factor in the owners behaviour, the lack of leadership, direction, communication, disgraceful attempts from within to sell our best players every year, chopping and changing coaching and managerial staff every few months, then its inevitable that the rump of mediocre players that remain will end up like they have.

In previous seasons we've kept our heads above water by relying in individual quality from the likes of Rhodes, Gestede and Hanley to bang in plenty of goals or organise a defence. Now we've nothing left.

In previous seasons we've had managers who have managed to organise a defence, ensuring that we aren't walloped every match. Now we've got someone with a career track record of failing to set up a team defensively.

No doubt both Lambert and Bowyer were in their own ways popular with the squad. Bowyer because he was and is a good man who people trusted and Lambert because of his reputation as a player and manager at bigger clubs than this who had the playing and managerial reputation to fall back on. It must be frustrating for some of the players who have worked under those two to now be listening to this clown.

Probably a similar sort of situation to when a respected proven manager in Allardyce left, who the senior players respected and feared, to be replaced by Kean, who nobody could take seriously.

[Athlete]

Doubt Coyle has ever had the dressing room making Lowe captain wtf

[arbitro]

still not getting the need for a united fanbase then. Jibes like this just perpetuate the bad feeling.

Nonsense. It is a fact not opinion and my guess is that people who did say it would now (hopefully) admit they were wrong. Perpetuate bad feeling? Look around you.

[JHRover]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37030417?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_match_of_the_day&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport

Shocking comments from Coyle here in his interview.

'Coming into the club there's a number of situations I've inherited. Shane, Ben Marshall, there have been offers that have been rejected a couple of weeks ago'

You knew about those 'situations' before taking the job and yet accepted it. It isn't an unusual 'situation' for a player to be nearing the end of his contract. Why has Coyle sat back between June and mid-August before offering them new deals? Why, if offers were rejected weeks ago, is he still talking about them? Its almost as though he's trying to unsettle the players and make them feel unwanted.

'But what you have in the modern game is third party interest. Someone in one ear telling you one thing, someone else in the other ear telling you another'

Does this mean Coyle is saying the players have been tapped up?

'They have their heads turned and you have to manage that in the modern game'

Who is he saying has had their head turned? Duffy and Marshall? If so then why are they starting games? If they have had their heads turned then its at least partly due to this club allowing this situation to develop.

On it goes. Not Coyle's fault, not the clubs fault, not the owners fault. Its the players fault, other clubs fault and circumstances fault. Only a matter of time before supporters are included in the blame group whilst Coyle tries his best to deal with the circumstances he agreed to work in when he took the job.

[Norbert Rassragr]

F--k it let's get some doughnuts from Lidl.

[blueboy3333]

Not sure his comments are 'shocking'. Coyle can only pass on recommendations re the renewal of Duffy's and Marshalls contracts. He did inherit it. Lambert tried to get them signed up as well. If there's nobody listening, and there's not a functioning boardroom to turn to, there's nothing the managers can do.

I'd imagine Marshall & Duffy are starting games bcause there isn't much alternative, especially in central defence. That again comes down to lack of investment.

Coyle's an awful manager though. The full-back spots are the weakest position at the club. Only a fool would play a system that leaves our full-backs exposed, which Coyle does.

[tomphil]

A complete fool or a willing fool though that's the question.

[tomphil]

As a Bolton fan, with a soft spot for Blackburn (apart from when we play you) seriously, get this bloke out as quickly as you can. He will do real damage and is absolutely not the man for this sort of situation. I'm sure you know this, but he is an absolute liability who will set you back years and years if given the chance.

Easily the worst Bolton manager I've ever seen we are still trying to cope with his legacy now. Overpaid for shockingly bad players, gave them huge contracts then wanted more and more new signings despite not getting the results.

His idea of organisation is to hold a ping pong championship. He will harm your club more than you can imagine.

Even though your owners are a huge problem do not underestimate Coyle and how much harm he can do.

And listen out for his post match interviews count how many times he'll say "we'll work hard on the training ground to put this right" or words to that effect. Someone needs to be brave and ask him "when Owen will you ever get it right".

Handing big contracts out to crap players ? Hmmm...

Coyle to Bolton and Gartside & SEM, Kentaro, Anderson etc ending up in court. Hmmm....

Whelan potting Coyle because of his favouritism to certain players with suspicious links. Hmmm...

Connections connections.

Oh and by the way Coyle has never heard of this agency he worked so closely with !

Chunts in it up to his eye balls.

[davulsukur]

F--k it let's get some doughnuts from Lidl.

Perhaps a game of table tennis to sharpen your football skills?

[1arC]

Handing big contracts out to crap players ? Hmmm...

Coyle to Bolton and Gartside & SEM, Kentaro, Anderson etc ending up in court. Hmmm....

Whelan potting Coyle because of his favouritism to certain players with suspicious links. Hmmm...

Connections connections.

Oh and by the way Coyle has never heard of this agency he worked so closely with !

Chunts in it up to his eye balls.

Perhaps the Bolton Chairman had other agents to look after by the time Coyle arrive there and that's why he has never heard of SEM and Jerome.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/phil-gartside-bolton-s-chairman-faces-allegations-of-perjury-9985588.html

[Tom]

From David Anderson from the mirror

Owen Coyle is also in big trouble at Blackburn and could go as early as Saturday if Rovers lose at home to Burton. Rovers bottom with no pts

[chaddyrovers]

From David Anderson from the mirror

Owen Coyle is also in big trouble at Blackburn and could go as early as Saturday if Rovers lose at home to Burton. Rovers bottom with no pts

No surprise to see this story already.

Someone has leaked this story to David Anderson. Wonder if someone has starting talking to potential replacements?

[davulsukur]

From David Anderson from the mirror

Owen Coyle is also in big trouble at Blackburn and could go as early as Saturday if Rovers lose at home to Burton. Rovers bottom with no pts

Never understand this way of thinking.

If true, and I have my doubts given his agent link, it shows the owners have lost faith in him so may as well bin off now (please)

That was a bit too much like a normal club, he won't be sacked, at best, before Duffy and Marshall have generated some more transfer fees and the window is shut.

[harryhealless1928]

Well,ironically thats the best news weve had all season.! Id take the exit of Duffy and Marshall if we got rid of Coyle! Theres just a chance Venkys realise its decreased revenue in League1(aka 3rd division) and arent massively enthusiastic about getting Rovers relegated.

The players could realise this as well(like they did under Paul Ince). Maybe a tub-thumping 0-6 home defeat to Burton wouldnt be so bad after all?

[Neal]

As a Bolton fan, with a soft spot for Blackburn (apart from when we play you) seriously, get this bloke out as quickly as you can. He will do real damage

The fact that he is so inept has actually had an adverse affect on the fans and has brought us together, Coyle is just a sideshow to the main event. I get what you're saying though, my mate who is a die hard wiganer told me his the worst manager he has ever encountered... Not just at Wigan and called him Steve Kean mk2.

[Gav]

No surprise to see this story already.

Someone has leaked this story to David Anderson. Wonder if someone has starting talking to potential replacements?

Makes absolutely no difference who replaces him, the focus should be only on getting rid of the owners.

Some of us have been saying for 3 seasons now that everything else is a sideshow, we must get rid of the owners and finally its getting through.

Keep up the good work and lets keep the focus and momentum going, the only end game is:

#venkysout

[JHRover]

We're going down. There are only two things that can be done in the near future to avoid that fate. One is Venkys suddenly deciding to splash out some money on this awful squad, the other is them sacking Coyle quickly, and bringing in someone of the calibre of Neil Warnock and give him a big bonus if he keeps us up.

Sadly neither will happen. The money has gone, never to be seen again. If there are concerns at Venky HQ it won't be about Coyle or our League position, it will be about how best to offload Duffy and Marshall and whether the revelations of the last week are going to cause them any bother with the authorities.

By the time they do realise Coyle is taking us down it will be too late. We'll be too far behind and the transfer window will be closed.

Even if they did turn to someone like Warnock to save us in the short term and he was brave enough to take this job as his last stint before retirement, he'd only be delaying the inevitable for another year until the sales, further cuts and bargain basement recruitment started again with another manager not worthy of the job.

[LDRover]

This rumour is out there to deflect the focus from Venkys. It'll be spun as them realising their mistake to appease the fans as they misunderstood the depth of anti - Burnley feeling.

As Gav says, the manager is completely irrelevant. #venkysout

[rovers11]

Find the Coyle out rumours hard to believe. Firstly, the owners make the decisions so I find it hard to believe David Anderson has any insight to what they are thinking. Secondly, sacking him would cost money. No chance Venkys will spend money on sacking him.

[Neal]

Makes absolutely no difference who replaces him, the focus should be only on getting rid of the owners.

Some of us have been saying for 3 seasons now that everything else is a sideshow, we must get rid of the owners and finally its getting through.

Keep up the good work and lets keep the focus and momentum going, the only end game is:

#venkysout

Exactly.

If the rumours are to be believed that they're happy for the club to rot then surely Coyle is the perfect man for them?

[FGS5635]

I wonder who might profit from our continued silly turnover of managers. Hmmmmmmm

[Gav]

This rumour is out there to deflect the focus from Venkys. It'll be spun as them realising their mistake to appease the fans as they misunderstood the depth of anti - Burnley feeling.

As Gav says, the manager is completely irrelevant. #venkysout

Absolutely bang on the money, just deflect attention, its worked for 6yrs.

If they sacked Coyle tonight we'd have 25 pages before Saturday talking about his replacement and any anti-venky feeling would be put to one side in support of the new manager, new players etc.

I just hope fans aren't going to fall for this tactic again, enough is enough its time to fight for the club, fight for the town and fight for what Jack built.

#venkysout - nothing else matters

[bob fleming]

This rumour is out there to deflect the focus from Venkys. It'll be spun as them realising their mistake to appease the fans as they misunderstood the depth of anti - Burnley feeling.

As Gav says, the manager is completely irrelevant. #venkysout

Exactly. I'm not having this at all. It's a classic deflection tactic. How many times now? It's a wearing a bit thin isn't it? (massive understatement).

Like "Venkys" appointed him anyway in the first place!