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[gumboots]

If Irvine has Rovers at heart, why suggest Coyle?

[Gav]

No conspiracy here as far as I'm concerned, just a manager with a terrible managerial record who's obviously prone to telling the odd fib.

That's as far as it goes for me, his record suggests we'll be bottom half of the league by Christmas, but the players will love him because of his methods.

Sound familiar.....

[gumboots]

I don't know about conspiracy, but it strikes me as odd that Irvine was ever asked or that, if he likes Rovers and gets the area, he would suggest one guy who, even if he's a friend, he must know will go down badly with a large section of the small, remaining fan base. Why would you do it?

[chaddyrovers]

Why are a lot of people assuming that Irvine and Kelly will be a good back up team for Coyle? The pair didn't do much alongside Lambert to shoot us up the table. The fact that Coyle doesn't have his own coaching staff says it all for me. That said, I sincerely hope they do well, because that means the Rovers are doing well too.

Irvine and Kelly are good coaches and have good reputation in the game

[gumboots]

And will they stay? Not if they get a better offer

[Norbert Rassragr]

Re Gumboots: To get the job yourself without any expectations? I doubt Irvine is that cynical and petty but when you put it like that, that's what I thought. It's like all the Nazis trying to secure their positions when the Russians were in Berlin.

In truth, Irvine probably thinks he's a friend who'd give it a right good go.

[oldjamfan1]

I don't know about conspiracy, but it strikes me as odd that Irvine was ever asked or that, if he likes Rovers and gets the area, he would suggest one guy who, even if he's a friend, he must know will go down badly with a large section of the small, remaining fan base. Why would you do it?

We only know part of the story though gumboots. For example, we don't actually know who any of the other realistic candidates were. For all we know, Owen Coyle might be the best of a very bad bunch. For all that Irvine has a strong feeling for the Rovers, football people aren't always attuned to what the outside world thinks, they are largely cocooned. I'm certainly not suggesting that he's made a wise choice, but it is more palatable to think he's made that recommendation, rather than other darker forces.

Not aimed at you gumboots but this messageboard has a habit of indulging in groupthink and is possibly as detached from reality as the football world is, but at the other end of the spectrum.

Maybe the truth lies somewhere in the middle?

[DE.]

One failed manager recommending another failed manager. What could go wrong?

[oldjamfan1]

One failed manager recommending another failed manager. What could go wrong?

Successful managers recommending other successful managers has gone badly wrong as well. The problem for Rovers is that successful managers seem to be dodging us, and who can blame them?

[ABBEY]

Turn it in will you - you going beyond tedium

nope ..not until the scum have left. Sorry steve it happening.

[Norbert Rassragr]

Could be a double negative, and therefore a positive.

[DE.]

Successful managers recommending other successful managers has gone badly wrong as well. The problem for Rovers is that successful managers seem to be dodging us, and who can blame them?

How do we know they are dodging us? Is there any indication we're even attempting to go for successful managers? I agree it's unlikely a decent manager would come anywhere near this mess, but we know for a fact Warnock was interested and we had a decent manager in Lambert but promptly showed him the door.

If Coyle is just a job's for mates thing then that is extremely worrying considering who recommended him (if it was Irvine) and Coyle's own recent history. Forget the SEM connections, forget the Burnley connections, forget the things he said about us in the past and forget the strange shape of his head - from a professional perspective this appointment is simply wrong.

[Gav]

Successful managers recommending other successful managers has gone badly wrong as well. The problem for Rovers is that successful managers seem to be dodging us, and who can blame them?

Paul Lambert was a successful manager in my opinion, a cut above Coyle, more success than failure on his CV thats for sure.

[oldjamfan1]

Paul Lambert was a successful manager in my opinion, a cut above Coyle, more success than failure on his CV thats for sure.

And he got out the very first chance he got, which sort of proves my point really. These guys talk to each other, and only the truly desperate would come here at the moment.

If anyone thinks Warnock was ever really a serious contender, think again - he was playing his usual games (a la Redknapp a few years before him)

[Gav]

And he got out the very first chance he got, which sort of proves my point really. These guys talk to each other, and only the truly desperate would come here at the moment.

If anyone thinks Warnock was ever really a serious contender, think again - he was playing his usual games (a la Redknapp a few years before him)

I was surprised Lambert took the job, its such a poison chalice I was beginning to think do they actually talk at all these managers!

But yes I take your point OJF.

[Colt Seavers]

I have no intention of reading or listening to anything he may have to say. His appointment really is the final straw. I spent the week before he was appointed getting ready for it because when the rumour first broke it was just ridiculous enough to be true. But it still hit me very hard when I read it had happened. He could win the championship by a country mile and I would not be tempted back to Ewood.

Really?

Absolutely astonishing! Unfortunately I believe we are likely relegation candidates next season so I don't expect to be able to hold you to your bold protestations.

[Rover_Shaun]

Does Owen Coyle know Bill Clinton?

And Colt I am with Gumboots. Only one thing will get me back. A change of ownership

[perthblue02]

If you take Coyle's worst win ratio at a club (30.34) which was at Wigan P23 W7 D6 L10 and double it to make a championship season it would leave us just one point short (54) of what we finished with this season (55).

Considering the circumstances can we hope for any better?

[oldjamfan1]

If you take Coyle's worst win ratio at a club (30.34) which was at Wigan P23 W7 D6 L10 and double it to make a championship season it would leave us just one point short (54) of what we finished with this season (55).

Considering the circumstances can we hope for any better?

Quite. We are a tainted club under these owners.

Lambert walking was such an unusual event in itself that it served to further shine a light on the shambolic nature of the way the club is managed off the field.

[OJRovers]

The appointment has done exactly what the owners wanted- take the heat away from them.

Kean shielded them from it for his time here.

Forget Coyle, focus on the owners.

[den]

Didn't Rangers have someone to bail/buy them out when they got liquidated? If we got liquidated could we really rely on someone to buy all the assets then reset the business? You mention Seneca but could Seneca realistically buy the club and all its assets, and bankroll player aquisitions/staff/operating losses with £60m?

Also why have some clubs changed their name after admin/liquidation?

As you can imagine this concerns me more than it should.

Cheers.

Like the brexiteers, someone should ask what the club will look like after either administration - or liquidation. No one knows is the answer.

[tomphil]

I don't know about conspiracy, but it strikes me as odd that Irvine was ever asked or that, if he likes Rovers and gets the area, he would suggest one guy who, even if he's a friend, he must know will go down badly with a large section of the small, remaining fan base. Why would you do it?

Jobs for the boys !

[oldjamfan1]

Jobs for the boys !

That describes the whole football industry, it isn't something unique to Rovers.

[tomphil]

The appointment has done exactly what the owners wanted- take the heat away from them.

Kean shielded them from it for his time here.

Forget Coyle, focus on the owners.

Absolute Bingo, House, Nail on heed !

Why oh why are people so blind they can't fathom what's in front of them ? "Why on earth Coyle ?" Well there you go.

The perfect storm and all with the Burnley thing to hide behind. When they sell Hanley & Marshall and lose the first 5 next season any squeak from the fans and it'll be 'they won't give him a chance because he managed Burnley' Omitting he relegated them then walked out on them, which went down rather well in these parts.

Con job - Part 7

[AllRoverAsia]

Lambert came in purely to win hearts and minds..........and sell Rhodes. Job done the c-unt fecked off.

Coyle will sell Hanley & Duffy ... and then feck off