[Archived] Summer Transfer/discussion Thread

[mustard]

yeah it would probably would Mani, plenty of members have said it would never happen to me and said I would wrong

Most, me included, disagreed with your suggestion that he'd choose us over Celtic because we'd offer more money. You started coming up with bogus reasons as to why we'd be a more attractive proposition backed up with figures pulled straight out of your backside.

I wouldn't be surprised if we signed Graham, but it will only happen if clubs like Celtic don't want him.

[Mani]

Most, me included, disagreed with your suggestion that he'd choose us over Celtic because we'd offer more money. You started coming up with bogus reasons as to why we'd be a more attractive proposition backed up with figures pulled straight out of your backside.

I wouldn't be surprised if we signed Graham, but it will only happen if clubs like Celtic don't want him.

I'm not saying Chaddy was right but seriously, how are you so sure? There's literally a million reasons why a player. It doesn't always come down to money and / or ambition. Sometimes it's to do with a family issue (schooling, wives, parents etc). Sometimes a player just feels happy somewhere...

[DE.]

I'm not saying Chaddy was right but seriously, how are you so sure? There's literally a million reasons why a player. It doesn't always come down to money and / or ambition. Sometimes it's to do with a family issue (schooling, wives, parents etc). Sometimes a player just feels happy somewhere...

Agreed, but it's very unlikely we're offering him £20k pw imo. Chaddy was stating as a fact that we would be offering that kind of money to players, and people were rightly pointing out how unlikely that was. We haven't been offering money like that since the early days of our first Championship season.

I hope we sign Graham as he's better than anyone else we're likely to attract, but I fear with Coyle in charge and Venky's at the helm we are under a handicap that will ultimately sink us no matter what.

[Gav]

I'm not saying Chaddy was right but seriously, how are you so sure? There's literally a million reasons why a player. It doesn't always come down to money and / or ambition. Sometimes it's to do with a family issue (schooling, wives, parents etc). Sometimes a player just feels happy somewhere...

It comes down to money and ambition in probably 99% of cases in football.

Graham jumped ship from Watford as soon as he got the opportunity, money and ambition being his motivation, why would we think this time will be any different?

[mustard]

I'm not saying Chaddy was right but seriously, how are you so sure? There's literally a million reasons why a player. It doesn't always come down to money and / or ambition. Sometimes it's to do with a family issue (schooling, wives, parents etc). Sometimes a player just feels happy somewhere...

I am not so sure, but I'd be surprised if he chose us over Celtic. He might well come to us, not saying he wouldn't.

What I disagreed with was Chaddy saying Celtic wouldn't be able to offer over £15k pw but we would offer £20k pw plus bonuses. He then said about how Celtic need to qualify for Champions League group stages (whilst we get a by to that stage apparently ). Then there was his mention of how Celtic have sold umpteen million and invested a few million less, whilst completely ignoring the fact we've sold £20m+ in players the last twelve months and spent diddly squat.

Yeah, Graham might choose Rovers, but it won't be for any of the reasons he made up. It's all well and good speculating but using a load of bull to support a theory is infuriating to read. You've come up with sensible reasons he might join us, not come out with drivel that implies we're a financial powerhouse.

[chaddyrovers]

Agreed, but it's very unlikely we're offering him £20k pw imo. Chaddy was stating as a fact that we would be offering that kind of money to players, and people were rightly pointing out how unlikely that was. We haven't been offering money like that since the early days of our first Championship season.

I hope we sign Graham as he's better than anyone else we're likely to attract, but I fear with Coyle in charge and Venky's at the helm we are under a handicap that will ultimately sink us no matter what.

I was suggesting the 20k a week wages as what I would offer him if manager.

[oldjamfan1]

My Celtic connection, who is very rarely wrong when it comes to them, says that Graham is going to be announced as their new signing either tomorrow or Wednesday. I hope that he's wrong for a change!!

[DE.]

I was suggesting the 20k a week wages as what I would offer him if manager.

No, you said:

We could afford 20k a week plus bonus.

[47er]

People keep saying the Dingle link is irrelevant. Maybe it would be if we poached Dyche... but Coyle is yesterday's man. Hiring a scrub manager is one thing... hiring a scrub manager who's ex-Scum just adds insult to injury.

The Dingle link is irrelevant to me. It's his record over the last few years that counts-----against him!

[mustard]

I seen him linked with us, Birmingham, Preston and Celtic

Last season Birmingham manager Gary Rowett said he couldn't even afford 10k a week salary to any player

Preston have 5 strikers already on their books. doubt they could afford more 15k a week salary

We could afford 20k a week plus bonus.

What could Celtic offer realistically? not in the group stages of the champions league, non competitive SPL, wages would could afford 15k a week probably

I was suggesting the 20k a week wages as what I would offer him if manager.

Really, Chaddy? More fibs?

[chaddyrovers]

No, you said:

Look a few days ago.

I think I suggestion 20k a week wages on 2 years contract and an option for 3rd seaaon if he plays 25/30 games in the second season

[BlueMonday]

Looks like there's some smoke and mirrors surrounding DG.

Couldn't possibly be Rovers trying to sell a few more ST's. Could it

[mustard]

we were spending at the start of last season probably around 50k a week on strikers and during the season the personal might have change but I don't see the wages going down tbf.

last season Celtic had to sell a key player and use that money to bring players in. The total transfer income was 14 mil and spend 9 mil of that.

What was our transfer income and expenditure last season?

[47er]

Backed up by Derbyshire and Watt would make the front area quite strong.

What is the situation with Watt? We have the option to sign him for 1M but haven't decided whether to exercise it or not?

Is that right?

[mustard]

Look a few days ago.

I think I suggestion 20k a week wages on 2 years contract and an option for 3rd seaaon if he plays 25/30 games in the second season

A suggestion of what YOU would do and a statement saying what Rovers CAN do are two very different things, Chadster.

[DE.]

Look a few days ago.

I think I suggestion 20k a week wages on 2 years contract and an option for 3rd seaaon if he plays 25/30 games in the second season

What you said is in black and white mate. I'm not trying to have a go, but you certainly did state that you believed we could offer £20k p/w plus bonuses for him.

IMO, that's nonsense and goes against everything we've seen from the club over the last few seasons. Constant downgrading, selling our best players and bringing in worse ones. Signing Graham would be a big positive, but I'd be surprised and if it did happen I'd be almost certain we were paying at max £10k pw. Probably with significant promotion bonuses (which, let's face it, are very unlikely to ever be triggered).

If Venky's wanted to really go for it, they would have backed Lambert. Opting to allow him to leave and then bringing in Coyle suggests we're going down the same route as the past three seasons. Bargain bin signings.

[mustard]

What is the situation with Watt? We have the option to sign him for 1M but haven't decided whether to exercise it or not?

Is that right?

Think so, I imagine there's a deadline on it (probably 30th June?) unless it was scrapped after he was sent back to Charlton.

[chaddyrovers]

I would offer him a 2 year contract at 20k a week with bonus, with an option for a 3rd year

Here is my point from the 8th of June

[tomphil]

What is the situation with Watt? We have the option to sign him for 1M but haven't decided whether to exercise it or not?

Is that right?

I reckon if he comes back it'll be on loan again initially. Doubt we'll be spending owt and certainly not committing for a million which in this case I'd agree with. He needs to prove his fitness again after injury and he's a 500k player with add ons at best at this stage of his career for me.

[chaddyrovers]

What you said is in black and white mate. I'm not trying to have a go, but you certainly did state that you believed we could offer £20k p/w plus bonuses for him.

IMO, that's nonsense and goes against everything we've seen from the club over the last few seasons. Constant downgrading, selling our best players and bringing in worse ones. Signing Graham would be a big positive, but I'd be surprised and if it did happen I'd be almost certain we were paying at max £10k pw. Probably with significant promotion bonuses (which, let's face it, are very unlikely to ever be triggered).

If Venky's wanted to really go for it, they would have backed Lambert. Opting to allow him to leave and then bringing in Coyle suggests we're going down the same route as the past three seasons. Bargain bin signings.

I explained yesterday how you could offer Graham 20k a week wages based on last season wages for strikers

[mustard]

Here is my point from the 8th of June

So let me get this straight, if I make one point on one day and then a contrasting one on another day and get called out for it, I can simply refer back to the original post and pretend the second one didn't happen?

It's in black and white, Chaddy. Stop being so difficult and maybe look to improve your grammar to the point where your posts aren't so ambiguous. If you mean one thing, don't write another.

[Athlete]

I was suggesting the 20k a week wages as what I would offer him if manager.

Of which he'd knock back

I doubt we'll be anywhere near the 20k mark for the foreseeable

[dallydally]

http://www.footballinsider247.com/deal-close-celtic-close-to-beating-rangers-to-5m-striker-report/?

[Athlete]

I explained yesterday how you could offer Graham 20k a week wages based on last season wages for strikers

But we're talking next season not last season

[mustard]

I explained yesterday how you could offer Graham 20k a week wages based on last season wages for strikers

But who is to say that won't change, Chaddy? All because we spent that last year, doesn't mean we will this year.

You're stating opinion as fact. A simple "IMO" can go a long way.