[Archived] Summer Transfer/discussion Thread

[tomphil]

  On 20/06/2016 at 21:15, chaddyrovers said:

I dont see Hanley or Marshall going anywhere until teams pay the asking price?

Hopefully Coyle can convince both to stay

Well it'll take a new contract for Marshall which he'll now turn down anyway if he knows he can get more at an ambitious club. Then it'll take some bold signings and statement of intent to convince Hanley, maybe a re writing of his terms as well.

Can't see either of those happening and I'm convinced these lot know exactly what they are doing when they fail to try and stop these assets inching nearer the exit door before it's too late. Easy to lay the blame on the player publically and say 'but he wanted out'.

[K-Hod]

  On 20/06/2016 at 21:15, chaddyrovers said:

I dont see Hanley or Marshall going anywhere until teams pay the asking price?

Hopefully Coyle can convince both to stay

The only thing he could say would be offering them more money. Given operation downsize is in full effect, I don't think we'll be doing that. We won't be matching the ambition of other teams, so I'd expect they will be gone. Given that they're our only saleable assets, that will appeal to Venky's I'd suggest...

[AdamRochina]

Oc- So graham would you like to join us at rovers then

Dg- Well I've just seen Marshall and Hanley have left

Oc- Yeah well Liam feeney though

Dg- Oh sign me up then boss!

[chaddyrovers]

  On 20/06/2016 at 21:23, arbitro said:

Marshalls value will drop like a stone as he only has one year left on his contract. Potentially another huge mistake that could cost a few million quid.

Seriously what could Coyle say to convince them particularly if far more ambitious clubs want them. This is Blackburn Rovers 2016.

Thats Coyle do that not me.

When the players are back on Monday I'm sure Coyle will outline his plans to the players

[Mani]

If we have the money to spend I'd sell Hanley for £5m...no qualms.

[Speedie Dived]

  On 20/06/2016 at 20:18, dallydally said:

Hanley won't go to a Championship side IF Coyle impresses with his signings. He is Rovers through and through

He is a massive Rangers fan

[Norbert Rassragr]

The money will disappear up Balaji's bum, and then some muppet who is 20 times worse will sign on a free. We've seen it happen so many times in the last 6 years.

[perthblue02]

  On 20/06/2016 at 21:42, Norbert Rassragr said:

The money will disappear up Balaji's bum, and then some muppet who is 20 times worse will sign on a free. We've seen it happen so many times in the last 6 years.

So cynical ,we are only one year behind in the big plan of Europe and top half of the Premiership achieved by loan players and an odd marquee player purchase that Venky's project partners sold us via Mrs D

[funny-old-game]

  On 20/06/2016 at 21:42, Norbert Rassragr said:

The money will disappear up Balaji's bum, and then some muppet who is 20 times worse will sign on a free. We've seen it happen so many times in the last 6 years.

Mani,chaddy and dallydally either don't get it or don't want to get it.very strange

[patrickvalery]

  On 20/06/2016 at 21:40, Mani said:

If we have the money to spend I'd sell Hanley for £5m...no qualms.

Not sure about that. Not many sides do even remotely well trying to settle in a new back four. He's our Captain and imo has developed this season.

There might be an argument for selling if the money would be reinvested. But, well I probably don't need to carry on.

Edit. I see you actually said that Mani. I really need to read entire posts. I mean, Christ, it was only one and a bit sentences. How lazy can I get?

[K-Hod]

  On 20/06/2016 at 21:40, Mani said:

If we have the money to spend I'd sell Hanley for £5m...no qualms.

We didn't get it for Rhodes, so I'd suggest the chances are slim to none of any funds from a Hanley sale going back into the side....(unless it's the side of Balaji's pocket).

[tomphil]

  On 20/06/2016 at 21:40, Mani said:

If we have the money to spend I'd sell Hanley for £5m...no qualms.

The % of it that will be available is probably already being spent in wages, signing on fees and agents fees for the low budget recruitment drive.

[Baz]

  On 20/06/2016 at 21:40, Mani said:

If we have the money to spend I'd sell Hanley for £5m...no qualms.

Could be the difference between relegation and staying up next season. We aren't going to be able to replace him with better.

[JBiz]

Why would the owners be selling players for cheap to put money in their pockets when they've already put 30x what it would take to recoup?

No parachute payments to support wage bill = sales to make up deficit

[Mani]

  On 20/06/2016 at 21:47, funny-old-game said:

Mani,chaddy and dallydally either don't get it or don't want to get it.very strange

Please read my post again and think mate...

I'm not saying Coyle WILL get the money. I said IF he were getting the money then I'd sell Hanley for £5m. I don't particularly rate him tbh. Think he still has a mistake in him.

  On 20/06/2016 at 22:02, Baz said:

Could be the difference between relegation and staying up next season. We aren't going to be able to replace him with better.

CB's aren't difficult to find mate.

[tomphil]

  On 20/06/2016 at 22:15, Mani said:

Please read my post again and think mate...

I'm not saying Coyle WILL get the money. I said IF he were getting the money then I'd sell Hanley for £5m. I don't particularly rate him tbh. Think he still has a mistake in him.

CB's aren't difficult to find mate.

And what did the loose lipped super coaches whisper about him on the training ground seeing as it seemed to take them a while to suss out he was a @#/? artist

[Baz]

  On 20/06/2016 at 22:15, Mani said:

CB's aren't difficult to find mate.

Good CBs for no or very little money, at the bottom end of the championship, are harder to find than you think.

If Hanley went, and since I think Kilgallon has been released, we'd need 2.

[McClarky]

I can't see any of the money being availabke if we sell anyone. I think the position is quite clear, sell what we can and build a new squad on frees and loans. Hanley and centre back in general is the only area of the pitch where I would say we were quite good but if he goes that goes right out the window.

[Pedro]

Who'd have thought that Robert Huth would be the rock at the heart of a championship winning side?

I like Hanley but he isn't without his faults and isn't without a mistake. Certainly not irreplaceable.

[funny-old-game]

  On 20/06/2016 at 22:15, Mani said:

Please read my post again and think mate...

I'm not saying Coyle WILL get the money. I said IF he were getting the money then I'd sell Hanley for £5m. I don't particularly rate him tbh. Think he still has a mistake in him.

CB's aren't difficult to find mate.[/quote

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts.

I'm just saying it as I see it Mani, we are a play thing that's broken (by venky's) and nobody outside Blackburn cares about us so the venky's will do the minimum possible to save spending any money.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

  On 20/06/2016 at 22:06, Jbizzle said:

Why would the owners be selling players for cheap to put money in their pockets when they've already put 30x what it would take to recoup?

No parachute payments to support wage bill = sales to make up deficit

Stop that! Fold yourself a tin foil hat and put it on immediately!

[47er]

  On 20/06/2016 at 18:08, yeti-dog said:

Care to elaborate?

There's nothing in that article to get your knickers in a twist over. Hopefully he joins if not, quite rightly, you move on to the next target.

Am I missing something here?

Well, yes you are. We want him, he wants to play for us, we won"t pay him what others are offering and he will go elsewhere while we get someone inferior.

I'd say you are missing quite a bit.

[JBiz]

  On 20/06/2016 at 22:45, deryck guyler's spoon said:

Stop that! Fold yourself a tin foil hat and put it on immediately!

Don't get me wrong DGS, it's as frustrating to see for me as much as any rovers fan, a self inflicted debt caused by, well we all know.

3500 season tickets is roughly one player of 20k a week for a season, it's not hard to see that even with a smaller wage bill, all the facilities and youth setup will cost money too.

I agree the conspiracy theories are tiring though. There is no doubt that certain advice still comes from places it shouldn't but that's hardly a conspiracy, that lines up with the disconnect the owners have consistently shown.

The idea that they've constantly been in on taking money out makes no sense IMO. As a family, or entity - they are massively in the hole. It's public knowledge. I'm under no illusion that some people have benefited from this disconnect but I find it tiresome to read suggestions the raos are taking money out or current directors are making decisions on managers or players merely to ostracise the meagre dwindled support.

[Parsonblue]

  On 20/06/2016 at 21:15, chaddyrovers said:

I dont see Hanley or Marshall going anywhere until teams pay the asking price?

Hopefully Coyle can convince both to stay

If Hanley has any ambition he will want to go. Why would he, as an international, want to linger in the lower regions of the Championship if there is the possibility of the Premier League on offer? He was our most improved player last season, got himself fit last summer and from day one of last season he was outstanding. With the Rovers likely to be battling relegation he would be foolish not to jump at the chance to better himself and make the most of his career.

[JHRover]

Hanley is our best player and our captain. We should be fighting tooth and nail to keep him at the club, and yet I get the distinct impression that the club are hoping to cash in on him as our biggest asset this summer. They'll be drumming up interest as we speak to try and get a bidding war under way.

They're taking us for fools. They might bring in 5-6 before Hanley goes to pull the wool over people's eyes and get some more renewing season tickets, but they'll sell Hanley for £4 million+ and pocket 80% of the money. The rest will fund the bargain basement shopping for Coyle. What a shocking state of affairs.

I can't begin to believe anyone would support or encourage the sale of Hanley. If there is one thing to learn from the last 12 months it is that whatever is received in funds WILL NOT be reinvested and that whoever comes in next will be of inferior quality. We've seen it time after time. Hoping they'll sell Hanley and then give Coyle £5 million in cash to spend is extremely optimistic or even deluded. They didn't reinvest the Cairney, Gestede or Rhodes money and they won't again.