[Archived] Championship 2016/17 Season

[davulsukur]

Hudds make it 1-1

[Dunnfc]

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

Brum, no win in 10, heading down without a fight,  in freefall, desperate for a bit of hope, luck, anything to drag them from the abyss. Oh here's Wagner and his reserves... thank frig for that.

Aye cos some german randomer knew Arry along time ago.

Behave... Brum played well against villa six days prior to that. Redknapp had got them pumped up, justifiably so after also beating Bristol a week after Huddersfield.

We were crap last year, Brum were more points better off, just to far a climb under TM. We deserved to go down because for 46 games we were not good enough.

 

[blueboy3333]

Just now, Dunnfc said:

Aye cos some german randomer knew Arry along time ago.

Who said that? Not me.

Wagner is a bell end. Bell end of.

[Dunnfc]

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

Who said that? Not me.

Wagner is a bell end. Bell end of.

He's probably never heard of Blackburn tbh.

He'd have done the same against whoever they'd play. 

Be a man... We were dogsh1t last season. It's like saying what happened if Mowbray didn't concede at PNE in the last minute. If's but's maybe's. Simple fact NOT GOOD ENOUGH IN 46 GAMES, it's a marathon BB not a sprint.

[sambo]

Just now, Dunnfc said:

He's probably never heard of Blackburn tbh.

He'd have done the same against whoever they'd play. 

Be a man... We were dogsh1t last season. It's like saying what happened if Mowbray didn't concede at PNE in the last minute. If's but's maybe's. Simple fact NOT GOOD ENOUGH IN 46 GAMES, it's a marathon BB not a sprint.

I agree with this, but Huddersfield's team/performance at St Andrews effectively made it a 45 game season for them. Fine margins.

[Markread2]

Just now, Dunnfc said:

He's probably never heard of Blackburn tbh.

He'd have done the same against whoever they'd play. 

Be a man... We were dogsh1t last season. It's like saying what happened if Mowbray didn't concede at PNE in the last minute. If's but's maybe's. Simple fact NOT GOOD ENOUGH IN 46 GAMES, it's a marathon BB not a sprint.

Are you saying those three points didn't matter? If Brum had drawn, we'd have stayed up. 

If West Ham had decided they couldn't be arsed, we'd never have won the Premier League. 

[blueboy3333]

Just now, Dunnfc said:

He's probably never heard of Blackburn tbh.

???

He'd have done the same against whoever they'd play. 

Not the point. As Mowbray pointed out it's to do with integrity

Be a man...

????

We were dogsh1t last season. It's like saying what happened if Mowbray didn't concede at PNE in the last minute. If's but's maybe's. Simple fact NOT GOOD ENOUGH IN 46 GAMES, it's a marathon BB not a sprint.

Nonsense. If Wagner had upheld the integrity of the league he wouldn't have played his reserves for an important match that had a huge impact on the relegation battle.

How the teams in the relegation battle got there is irrelevant.

 

[Dunnfc]

Just now, Markread2 said:

Are you saying those three points didn't matter? If Brum had drawn, we'd have stayed up. 

If West Ham had decided they couldn't be arsed, we'd never have won the Premier League. 

We had 46 games in the season to address our deficiencies, so yes we shouldn't be relying on teams doing us a favour. You have to control your own destiny and we had it in our hands in every game we played almost this season.

I think we have the goalie Savo to thank at West Ham, how fitting it was to win the league but we were lucky as you know that day and has provided the fans of Rovers many proud feelings.

[Dunnfc]

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

 

Blame integrity all you want, were was the players for the 40 odd games beforehand integrity wise? The owners they failed to back the team with investment, let us start summer with only seven players and Coyle, Senior who claimed money was there in January but players lined up didn't provide value etc that RB from Rennes he played in the run-in for them in Ligue 1.... they the aforementioned are all to blame before you even look at Huddersfield.

F**k sake 1 game what about the 45 before?

[blueboy3333]

Just now, Dunnfc said:

We had 46 games in the season to address our deficiencies, so yes we shouldn't be relying on teams doing us a favour.

Sigh. Nobody is asking for a favour.

You obviously don't understand the points being made so we'll leave it there.

[blueboy3333]

Just now, Dunnfc said:

Blame integrity all you want, were was the players for the 40 odd games beforehand integrity wise? The owners they failed to back the team with investment, let us start summer with only seven players and Coyle, Senior who claimed money was there in January but players lined up didn't provide value etc that RB from Rennes he played in the run-in for them in Ligue 1.... they the aforementioned are all to blame before you even look at Huddersfield.

F**k sake 1 game what about the 45 before?

What are you ranting on about. We're on about Hudds integrity.

[Dunnfc]

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

What are you ranting on about. We're on about Hudds integrity.

Exactly as you'd failed to quote properly initially.

You can blame Hudders integrity all you like fact is our bottlers showed zero before TM turned up and even then in games were found wanting a bit of "integrity". Integrity and pride about themselves.

[Dunnfc]

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

Sigh. Nobody is asking for a favour.

You obviously don't understand the points being made so we'll leave it there.

I do but it's futile pal. Can't go round thinking of 1 game when we control our season and play 46 games. 

[Speedie Dived]

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

Sigh. Nobody is asking for a favour.

You obviously don't understand the points being made so we'll leave it there.

What about Villa more or less throwing the game at Ewood the week before? They were pathetic.

[AllRoverAsia]

Dunnfc this argument is about 1 feckin game NOT 46.

Get your head around that.

[Brownpants18]

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

What are you ranting on about. We're on about Hudds integrity.

Oh and Aston Villa were not exactly busting a gut were they?

[Dunnfc]

Just now, AllRoverAsia said:

Dunnfc this argument is about 1 feckin game NOT 46.

Get your head around that.

Surely that itself is just suiting the argument specifically as opposed to the complete context of the situation?

[blueboy3333]

Just now, Brownpants18 said:

Oh and Aston Villa were not exactly busting a gut were they?

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[Stuart]

Just now, Dunnfc said:

I do but it's futile pal. Can't go round thinking of 1 game when we control our season and play 46 games. 

Yes we can. Rovers were relegated over the season but so were Birmingham. They just got a free pass from Huddersfield who decided to gift them the three points they needed. If Huddersfield had even drawn we would still be a Chsmpionship club and they would be in League One - by the same justification.

Here is something else to consider. If West Ham  had made 10 changes in 1995 against United, would you have shrugged and said that we didn't deserve to win it anyway?

[Dunnfc]

Just now, Stuart said:

Yes we can. Rovers were relegated over the season but so were Birmingham. They just got a free pass from Huddersfield who decided to gift them the three points they needed. If Huddersfield had even drawn we would still be a Chsmpionship club and they would be in League One - by the same justification.

Here is something else to consider. If West Ham  had made 10 changes in 1995 against United, would you have shrugged and said that we didn't deserve to win it anyway?

Yes because we lost to liverpool, maybe we should have beaten them Stuart, you can flip it all you like, fact is playing Barnsley with what four games left we put in an abject display got pumped 2-0 and lost that sucker goal to PNE a week before. Look at the season before TM came in, dropped points to rotherham under coyle etc. It was a magnitude of errors. 

So Hudders played it easy, took a break. We've done it in the past even Bowyer used to do it in the FA cup to quite a degree.

Fact is on all counts, destiny/control was in our hands and we passed up at the first opportunity and lose the edge.

[Stuart]

Just now, Dunnfc said:

Yes

That is the only relevant part of the post.

If you would have been accepting of West Ham gifting the league to United (by playing 10 reserves instead of actually competing, as they did) then you are either a liar, too young to remember, or a better man than I.

Whichever (and I don't particular care) there is no arguing with your 'yes'. Personally I would have hated West Ham to this day and beyond but ok.

[davulsukur]

Penalties, grim for someone

[Tom]

Very frustrating to watch a team with Rhodes in try a quick counter attack

 

[roverandout]

Yaaaaawwwwwnnnnn

[TAFKAP]

Hope the Owls go up now, they're a massive club with a great following, and I used to live on Infirmary Rd in Hillsborough.