[Archived] England's Next Manager?

[Gav]

25000 fans attended every home game when Sam was manager.

Fans who knew anything about the game realised the club was in big trouble as soon as they sacked him. They were of course, right.

You're talking bunkum again Gav.

bunkum

We've moved on den, England? Rooney?

[ABBEY]

25000 fans attended every home game when Sam was manager.

Fans who knew anything about the game realised the club was in big trouble as soon as they sacked him. They were of course, right.

You're talking bunkum again Gav.

Just like selling Rhodes , we've been in big trouble ever since .that ain't bunkem

[K-Hod]

bunkum

We've moved on den, England? Rooney?

http://ewoodpark.jimdo.com/attendances-average-attendances-1888-2013/ In black and white re the attendances.

Well, Rovers definitely haven't, have we? Well, unless you mean moving backwards at an alarming rate.....

[Gav]

Well, Rovers definitely haven't, have we? Well, unless you mean moving backwards at an alarming rate.....

Rooney? Captain? K-Hod, keep on topic please

[K-Hod]

Rooney? Captain? K-Hod, keep on topic please

Looks like I misunderstood you. What do you have to say about those attendances though?

[K-Hod]

Just like selling Rhodes , we've been in big trouble ever since .that ain't bunkem

We've been in big trouble since these idiots rocked up. Every time we've sold a player we've replaced them with someone of lesser cost and generally quality as well.

[Gav]

Looks like I misunderstood you. What do you have to say about those attendances though?

We never had 25,000 every week, thats just bunkum as I told den earlier.

Rooney as captain? the site should be in meltdown like it was when Roy gave him the gig last time out.

[DE.]

We have far more important things to worry about.

[K-Hod]

We never had 25,000 every week, thats just bunkum as I told den earlier.

Rooney as captain? the site should be in meltdown like it was when Roy gave him the gig last time out.

The average over the season was 25,000 for the two seasons he was here though.......

We never had 25,000 every week, thats just bunkum as I told den earlier.

Rooney as captain? the site should be in meltdown like it was when Roy gave him the gig last time out.

He's retiring after the next WC anyhow, like for the managerial position, there aren't any outstanding candidates. We might as well have someone experienced.

[den]

We never had 25,000 every week, thats just bunkum as I told den earlier.

You're right Gav. Sometimes we had a lot more.

Things didn't turn out as well as the Sam haters thought they would.

They thought we'd improve as a team 😀

Gosh.

[AllRoverAsia]

The average over the season was 25,000 for the two seasons he was here though.......

He's retiring after the next WC anyhow, like for the managerial position, there aren't any outstanding candidates. We might as well have someone experienced.

Keeping Ronney as Captain at the start of Sam's reign makes sense to me. The time is approaching to drop Rooney as a player - unless he really does make it as a creative midfielder ala Pirlo, which I doubt - the armband can then be passed.

I don't see any other stand out candidates for Captain - Terry anyone???

Rooney might not stay in the team as a player long enough for him to see the next WC.

Meanwhile to sack Rooney would just bring unnecessary instability at the start for Sam. He's not that stupid and Rooney can still do a bit wherever he plays.

Personally I hope Sam succeeds with England by winning games - if we are 'nice' to watch well that's a bonus.

[K-Hod]

Keeping Ronney as Captain at the start of Sam's reign makes sense to me. The time is approaching to drop Rooney as a player - unless he really does make it as a creative midfielder ala Pirlo, which I doubt - the armband can then be passed.

I don't see any other stand out candidates for Captain - Terry anyone???

Rooney might not stay in the team as a player long enough for him to see the next WC.

Meanwhile to sack Rooney would just bring unnecessary instability at the start for Sam. He's not that stupid and Rooney can still do a bit wherever he plays.

Personally I hope Sam succeeds with England by winning games - if we are 'nice' to watch well that's a bonus.

For me, the Rooney captaincy is another stick to beat Sam with. He hasn't even taken charge of a full match yet for goodness' sake.

Rooney plays regularly for his club who, like it or lump it are one of the biggest in the country. Chances are, he's getting picked for England as well. Which I have no real issue with tbh. The selection of Jagielka and omission of Barkley raised eyebrows for me, but then, Sam Allardyce knows more about professional football than I ever will, ergo I'm happy to trust his judgment.

[den]

Just like selling Rhodes , we've been in big trouble ever since .that ain't bunkem

Lol, you still don't get it Abbey.

We've gone downhill ever since we sacked Sam. We IMPROVED after we sold Rhodes.

You and Gav got it wrong on both points.

[ABBEY]

Lol, you still don't get it Abbey.

We've gone downhill ever since we sacked Sam. We IMPROVED after we sold Rhodes.

You and Gav got it wrong on both points.

aye bottom of division ...massive improvement

You're right Gav. Sometimes we had a lot more.

Things didn't HAVE NOT turn out as well as the Sam RHODES haters thought they would.

They thought we'd improve as a team

Gosh.

[Gav]

The average over the season was 25,000 for the two seasons he was here though.......

He's retiring after the next WC anyhow, like for the managerial position, there aren't any outstanding candidates. We might as well have someone experienced.

den claimed - "25000 fans attended every home game when Sam was manager" - That quote is simply not true, its not even open to debate, so why you're continuing flogging a dead horse is beyond me K-Hod.

As for the main point, Rooney as captain shows a complete lack of imagination, he's bottled the first major decision, Roy was slagged off by me and many others on here for appointing Rooney as captain, now its fine because its Allardyce, so much for a new era

[AllRoverAsia]

Rooney will be the Captain of England until he is no longer fit for purpose as a player. Might not be as long as some seem to fear. IMO.

[K-Hod]

den claimed - "25000 fans attended every home game when Sam was manager" - That quote is simply not true, its not even open to debate, so why you're continuing flogging a dead horse is beyond me K-Hod.

As for the main point, Rooney as captain shows a complete lack of imagination, he's bottled the first major decision, Roy was slagged off by me and many others on here for appointing Rooney as captain, now its fine because its Allardyce, so much for a new era

I don't think I slagged him off for appointing Rooney as captain tbh, others weren't happy with it as I recall. I always feel like Rooney, like other players gets unfairly criticised. He's over 100 caps for his country and countless appearances and goals at club level. I guess his face just doesn't fit for some people.

It still sounds like you're desperate to criticise Allardyce because you didn't like him when he was here, Gav. With respect, of course.

[speeeeeeedie]

We have far more important things to worry about.

Rovers fans do, however it's a welcome relief to me to discuss something other than the depression that Rovers brings.

I think Gav is bang wrong on his assessment of Allardyce. It's a strange one because I think his football judgment is usually good.

Allardyce will do well for England.

[Gav]

I don't think I slagged him off for appointing Rooney as captain tbh, others weren't happy with it as I recall. I always feel like Rooney, like other players gets unfairly criticised. He's over 100 caps for his country and countless appearances and goals at club level. I guess his face just doesn't fit for some people.

It still sounds like you're desperate to criticise Allardyce because you didn't like him when he was here, Gav. With respect, of course.

Rooney has about 30 caps to many in my opinion, he's been very much hit and miss at Utd in recent times, and very much miss at International level throughout his entire career for me when it mattered.

I'm playing the ball not the man K-Hod, I've got a locker full of anti-Allardyce rhetoric, but I'm judging him on his England career in international week which is quite simply lost on you and a few others sadly.

[oldjamfan1]

I'll judge Sam as England manager once I've seen us play a game or two under him. What he did at Rovers (or any other club for that matter) is history now.

[speeeeeeedie]

Rooney has about 30 caps to many in my opinion, he's been very much hit and miss at Utd in recent times, and very much miss at International level throughout his entire career for me.

I'm playing the ball not the man K-Hod, I've got a locker full of anti-Allardyce rhetoric, but I'm judging him on his England career in international week which is quite simply lost on you and a few others sadly.

He's not managed a game yet and you've done nothing but slag him. England have what looks like an easy World Cup qualifying group. If qualification is in jeopardy you can fill your boots. I don't see it happening though.

[K-Hod]

Rooney has about 30 caps to many in my opinion, he's been very much hit and miss at Utd in recent times, and very much miss at International level throughout his entire career for me when it mattered.

I'm playing the ball not the man K-Hod, I've got a locker full of anti-Allardyce rhetoric, but I'm judging him on his England career in international week which is quite simply lost on you and a few others sadly.

It seems to me you're doing the exact opposite and getting stuck into the man before his team's kicked a ball for him yet. Anyhow, I'll leave it there.

[ABBEY]

He's not managed a game yet and you've done nothing but slag him. England have what looks like an easy World Cup qualifying group. If qualification is in jeopardy you can fill your boots. I don't see it happening though.

as many did with coyle

It seems to me you're doing the exact opposite and getting stuck into the man before his team's kicked a ball for him yet. Anyhow, I'll leave it there.

[Gav]

He's not managed a game yet and you've done nothing but slag him. England have what looks like an easy World Cup qualifying group. If qualification is in jeopardy you can fill your boots. I don't see it happening though.

He's picked Rooney as captain, thats reason enough to call him into question, maybe you think Rooneys a good choice, maybe you don't really care, its just about results, but he had a chance to make his mark, put his stamp on things but he towed the party line.

Not exactly slagging him off speedie, just trying to talk over his first big decision, but it'd be easier nailing custard to the ceiling.

[AllRoverAsia]

Rooney has about 30 caps to many in my opinion, he's been very much hit and miss at Utd in recent times, and very much miss at International level throughout his entire career for me when it mattered.

I'm playing the ball not the man K-Hod, I've got a locker full of anti-Allardyce rhetoric, but I'm judging him on his England career in international week which is quite simply lost on you and a few others sadly.

Totally lost on me tbh.

If you are playing the ball let Sams team at least kick one in a competitive match before judging.

If not doing it already watch the Cricket now!