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Proudtobeblue&white Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Poor half, I'm still wandering how Sturridge leads the line. The crossing has been abject, do they actually practice or have any natural talent?
Proudtobeblue&white Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Hart having a blinder Says it all when Hart is motm, again the inability to beat the first defender at corners/crossing is pitiful. Over paid, limited ability.
perthblue02 Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Credit to Scotland tonight looks like they have started the boycott of Putins world cup early
Gav Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Slovenia? yes Slovenia? a tiny country with 2m people? Money has ruined our game, money keeps ruining our game, 200k a week v 2k a week and where was the passion, skill and determination? In the Slovenia side.... Embarrassing, the national sides a disgrace, the FA are corrupt, the old managerial brigade are corrupt and the fans are the ones that suffer. Jail a few of these crooked @#/?s and lets get back to basics, because the current model doesn't work
1864roverite Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Southgate is a poor mans COYLE, useless, inept and totally out of his depth
4000Holes Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 England to win 3 nilStill waiting!England are poor, Slovenia should have won. Hart MoM says it all. If you have a manager / coach that can set up to compete against so called better teams, then brilliant and better still if you get better chances. All I can say is Owen, have you been watching?
Proudtobeblue&white Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 We were lucky to get a draw. Defending reckless at times, bereft of ideas up front. Walcott was a shining light before his injuries, now nowhere good enough. Made to look what we are, average at best. Wenger for the job, knows English football inside out. Will not happen. Oh, and Rooney. Should be his last game I'm afraid.
jim mk2 Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Why do fans get upset at England any more? The team has been a national embarrassment for years.
chaddyrovers Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Poor performances all round apart from Hart. Players arent as good as we all think. Thank god we cant forget about international football and get back to the proper football starting at 3pm on Saturday at Ewood Park
47er Posted October 11, 2016 Author Posted October 11, 2016 To be honest I'm not totally against that approach. Big club players have the advantage of playing in the Champions League and of also training with the very top foreign players. So they become more familiar with the playing style of foreign teams and also (something who's significance is really undervalued in my opinion) become familiar with foreign refs and how they influence the game. Our most successful era of the modern age, under Eriksson, was the ultimate big club squad. Bobby Robson our best recent manager although not that recent anymore!
chaddyrovers Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Bobby Robson our best recent manager although not that recent anymore! Bobby Robson and Terry Venables was the best England manager in the past 30 years
jim mk2 Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Poor performances all round apart from Hart. Players arent as good as we all think. Thank god we cant forget about international football and get back to the proper football starting at 3pm on Saturday at Ewood Park Rovers players aren't as good as you think either chaddy - but that's another story !
Amo Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 England to win 3 nil Mercerman called. He wants his predictions back.
matt83 Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 Dreadful from England again last night. I wonder whether Southgate still has the brown paper bag from that Pizza Hut advert. Something tells me he'll need it again.
Hasta Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 Remove Big Sam. Watch results suffer. Bolton, Newcastle, Rovers, West Ham (eventually), Sunderland , England :-)
chaddyrovers Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 Remove Big Sam. Watch results suffer. Bolton, Newcastle, Rovers, West Ham (eventually), Sunderland , England :-) https://youtu.be/E54_S_yA5gk Lets not forget why Big Sam lost the England job cos of his own stupidity and trying to be smarter than he really was.
Gav Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 Dreadful from England again last night. I wonder whether Southgate still has the brown paper bag from that Pizza Hut advert. Something tells me he'll need it again.Southgate made probably the biggest decision of any England manager over the past 20yrs by dropping Rooney, and for that reason alone he deserves respect. He's picked up the pieces left by that greedy **** Allardyce and is trying to do a job he's nowhere near qualified to do.The sides a shambles, the FA are a shambles and English football is a shambles due to far to many overpaid average players and corruption. The game and FA needs an overall and until we get that we'll win nothing. Operation 'Sweep it under the carpet' is in full swing, I just hope the press don't allow it to happen.
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted October 12, 2016 Moderation Lead Posted October 12, 2016 Southgate made probably the biggest decision of any England manager over the past 20yrs by dropping Rooney, and for that reason alone he deserves respect. He's picked up the pieces left by that greedy **** Allardyce and is trying to do a job he's nowhere near qualified to do. The sides a shambles, the FA are a shambles and English football is a shambles due to far to many overpaid average players and corruption. The game and FA needs an overall and until we get that we'll win nothing. Operation 'Sweep it under the carpet' is in full swing, I just hope the press don't allow it to happen. They will, they've got Allardyce out of the job and got another yes man in his place. There is no appetite within the game to investigate corruption while so many people are getting rich imo, sad but true. This whole thing about dropping Rooney has made me laugh, whilst he hasn't been in the best form recently, he actually played fine on Saturday and indeed last night when he came on. Southgate dropped him to try and be the man, but he just scapegoated him, quite strange really.
blueboy3333 Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 We used to produce the likes of Gazza, Ince & Robson. Now we rely on Jordan Henderson. From Shearer & Owen > Sturridge From Sol Campbell & Ferdinand > Cahill & Jagielka Rose isn't fit to lace Le Saux's boots. The 'Golden Generation' were over-rated but they were footballing gods compared to the pampered 'academy' boys poncing around today. I think we were a bit spoilt in the 90's, 3 very good tournament teams overseen by Robson, Venables and Hoddle. Of course the Prem doesn't help, full of Carlos-Kickaball's, which is hardly conducive to getting the best English players playing week-in-week-out in our top division. But then again, in a world where Gareth Southgate is in charge of the future of English football (and now the present), we shouldn't really complain about johnny foreigner. We're just shyte.
arbitro Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 I think more and more people are/have lost in the international scene in general. The FA is stuck in a time warp and relies on the old boys network far too much for major decision making. They are far too safe with their appointments and whilst the Allardyce situation (with his dodgy reputation prior to getting the job) might strengthen their rationale the likes of Southgate is a much better fit for the profile they want. In honesty though any manager would struggle as there just isn't the quality out there to challenge the top footballing nations.
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