Backroom Madon Posted October 12, 2016 Backroom Posted October 12, 2016 Could be worse... ...Could be Scottish.
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oldjamfan1 Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 ...Could be Scottish. I think that's what he meant mate. I'll be putting a sneaky fiver on Scotland to turn England over at Wembley.
Salgado Is Still A Hero Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 I think that's what he meant mate. I'll be putting a sneaky fiver on Scotland to turn England over at Wembley. 11/1 perhaps? For anyone who doesn't understand odds, that means if you put a tenner on, you will lose a tenner.
joey_big_nose Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 It's really obvious we don't have a clear idea of how to play. Painful really. Feel a bit bad for southgate as he has had no time to prepare. That said I'd be astonished if he was ever a success. Just not the right sort of character. Ferguson, Mourinho, Pep, Wenger etc. Are all types who know clearly what they want from the team. Southgate, like Coyle, Kean etc just are not like that. They are supporters not leaders.
BRFC1995 Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 there is the potential for england to be a decent entertaining football team if eric dier never plays in midfield again and far, far better full backs than rose and walker emerge. why when playing a sporting backwater like Slovenia are we so worried that the manager basically plays a centre half in Dier in Midfield, nullifying any breaks for ourselves and never passing forward basically killing the match as a spectacle.
chaddyrovers Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 Dier has been playing midfield for Spurs for the past 15 months.
BRFC1995 Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 Dier has been playing midfield for Spurs for the past 15 months. and spurs are dull to watch
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted October 12, 2016 Moderation Lead Posted October 12, 2016 I must admit, I find the exact opposite with Spurs, I find them great to watch! Also, I'd say that the full backs and Dier were the only players to emerge from the Euros with any sort of credit! Funny old game, eh?
J*B Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 I think that's what he meant mate. I'll be putting a sneaky fiver on Scotland to turn England over at Wembley. A Chaddy?
chaddyrovers Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 and spurs are dull to watch Really? I find an entertaining team to watch. Eriksen is a class act.
Veevs Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 there is the potential for england to be a decent entertaining football team if eric dier never plays in midfield again and far, far better full backs than rose and walker emerge. why when playing a sporting backwater like Slovenia are we so worried that the manager basically plays a centre half in Dier in Midfield, nullifying any breaks for ourselves and never passing forward basically killing the match as a spectacle. Disagree no end there.. Dier for me is one of the few good players in the England shirt atm.. He is however a holding midfielder and should be played/thought of as such.. yet his shooting isn't to bad and was one of our only half decent players in the Euros. To me Southgate tried to stamp his authority on the England side but one up front with two wing backs playing to far back due to a three man attacking midfield was a poor disjointed lineup... looks a weird off balance 4.1.1.3.1 Which does not work anywhere.
eddy11d Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 Dier is poor, he's one of those players where people say 'you don't actually see what he does of the ball' (like our fans used to do with Jason Lowe). If they are a good'un you can see that they are a good'un, if you 'can't see how good they are', they aren't a good'un.
Husky Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 It's a poor do when there's not even anyone close to replacing an awful 'finished' Rooney.
frosty Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 We used to produce the likes of Gazza, Ince & Robson. Now we rely on Jordan Henderson. From Shearer & Owen > Sturridge From Sol Campbell & Ferdinand > Cahill & Jagielka Rose isn't fit to lace Le Saux's boots. It's as simple as that really. This is the worst generation of England players for god knows how long. 10 years ago: Robinson, G Neville, Terry, Ferdinand, A Cole, Beckham, Lampard, Gerrard, J Cole, Owen, Rooney. With players such as Campbell, Carragher etc as backup who'd be first name on the team sheet nowadays. Paul Scholes too, shame we wasted a top player, sticking him out on the left won't have a player as technically gifted as him for the foreseeable future. Yes the 'Golden Generation' weren't as good as what the media had us believe, hence their lack of doing anything really meaningful in a tournament, but compared to know they're in a different league.
Stuart Posted November 15, 2016 Posted November 15, 2016 So, do we want England to win or lose tonight? In other news, we must be the only nation that takes pride in showing the emptiest part of the ground on TV. Why not just move the cameras? Why on earth isn't Vardy taking the pen?
Stuart Posted November 15, 2016 Posted November 15, 2016 Cos lalana has scored Irrelevant. He's not scored in 14 games and is our main striker on the pitch. Not taking it shows a lack of confidence.
chaddyrovers Posted November 15, 2016 Posted November 15, 2016 Cos Lallana is a better Penalty taker maybe
jim mk2 Posted November 15, 2016 Posted November 15, 2016 Many strikers aren't penalty takers. Penalty taking requires skill and nerve - and that's down to the individual player not where you play on the pitch.
Stuart Posted November 15, 2016 Posted November 15, 2016 Ok, if someone could leave me the keys to their delorean that'd be champion. (Vardy does take penalties though - as should all good strikers. That's why we never win shoot outs!)
jim mk2 Posted November 15, 2016 Posted November 15, 2016 Who needs penalties ? Vardy scores - and Walcott misses a sitter
Gav Posted November 15, 2016 Posted November 15, 2016 We do Gav - desperately We've had enough crooks on the books, we don't want anymore.
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