[Archived] England's Next Manager?

[ABBEY]

it went from 15/1 for the draw to 25/1 when spain had the pressure on ..just before the first goal. Dingle in goal and £2 later happy days

[Amo]

But for me the squad should pick itself.

Nah, that's the sponsors' job.

[Mattyblue]

FA insider, won't rock the boat, articulate enough in interviews and will do it for about a third of the wage Hodgson/Allardyce received.

But yeah, I'm sure the 'panel' will perform an extensive search

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

I like him as a bloke , but as a successful England manager ? Not in a million years.

[Baz]

FA have appointed Graeme Le Saux to help find the next England manager.

Safe to say David Batty, Roy Keane, and Robbie Fowler are now out of the running.

[roverandout]

The reason why Germany and now spain can appoint relatively inexperienced managers is because they have a host of quality players to choose from, england have very few, if any. That's why an experienced manager is needed to make up for the lack of quality

[Mr. E]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38007949

"Clearly, his candidacy has become much stronger," said Glenn. "We just need to weigh up the facts and take time to make the right decision."

Lol. So after bottling a 2-0 lead with 89 minutes gone by....you become a "much stronger" candidate.

You see it's not the FA are making mistakes or just not searching hard enough for a good candidate....they are actively and purposefully searching for a bottler on a mission to fail.

[AlanK]

Lol. So after bottling a 2-0 lead with 89 minutes gone by....you become a "much stronger" candidate.

Southgate bottled a 2-0 lead? You cannot put the blame on him for that. The players bottled it. Again.

No problem giving him a go at the job. The so called big shots over the years have been dire.

[chaddyrovers]

Southgate appointed England manager on a four year contract.

[Mr. E]

Well, congrats on the most uninspiring, disheartening, unimaginative appointment in the history of English national football.

[tomphil]

Another farce and the ultimate yes man. Gareth you must involve x.y.z as much as possible as they are popular England shirt sellers - 'yes boss' .

[arbitro]

The FA have just given me another reason to dislike them. Unimaginative, insipid and far too safe with this appointment as they look to claw back some credibility.

[jim mk2]

Hobson's choice - in the past 15 years or so the FA have gone down the foreigner route (Eriksson); made the mistake of appointing his No 2, the Wally with a Brolly; then threw vasts pots of money at the problem (Capello); who was followed by Hodgson who got the job only because he was English. Then they picked another flawed personality in Sam Allardyce. In reality, it doesn't matter that Southgate has got the job because no matter who is in charge England will continue to disappoint.

[Rover_Shaun]

Yet England have NEVER gone for a manager who's at the top of his game. Eriksson and Cappello's best years were behind them, Hodgson was out of touch, Allardcyce was a tier 3 premierleague manager, McClaren was useless even before he got the job. And appointing Southgate smacks of an organization who have realised that nobody really cares about international football any more

[JAL]

Hobson's choice - in the past 15 years or so the FA have gone down the foreigner route (Eriksson); made the mistake of appointing his No 2, the Wally with a Brolly; then threw vasts pots of money at the problem (Capello); who was followed by Hodgson who got the job only because he was English. Then they picked another flawed personality in Sam Allardyce. In reality, it doesn't matter that Southgate has got the job because no matter who is in charge England will continue to disappoint.

What have TheFA been doing over the past few decades to end up with so few managers capable of managing at International level.

[JHRover]

Lets be honest, no Premier League club would ever have given Southgate their job, infact no Championship club would have gone for him, yet he's now England manager because he was in the right place at the right time and toes the party line. No boat rocking or risk of embarrassment on this one. Makes me laugh when they talk as though he's been on trial for the last 4 games and his performance there has got him the job. Nonsense. The moment Allardyce went the job was his to lose assuming he didn't make a disaster of the qualification matches.

The FA once overlooked Brian Clough for this job and now they're handing a 4 year contract to Gareth Southgate?

Also makes me laugh that Southgate is being portrayed as a young manager. He's 46 and first managed Middlesbrough more than 10 years ago. His results with the u21s are barely any different to Stuart Pearce's yet I don't see him pushed as a future England manager.

[roverstdt]

To be fair while I am not pleased with Southgate I am not willing to knock for the reason of knocking him. Contrary to belief he has a far better win ratio than Pearce (55%) vs Southgate (82%).

The one thing that pleases me with what he said is out of all the dam managers we have had in x amount of years is stating the obvious yet no one else has mentioned. England need a god dam playing style, or a system if you prefer. Spain retain the ball, France Counter Attacks with fast wingers and try to boss the midfield, Germany just work well together. England need a system.

At the end of the day we have tried everything, Foreign Old Manager, Foreign Youngish Manager, English Manager Experienced, only one left is young english manager.

Put a system in place build using the young stars of the future being Dier, Shaw, Rose, Butland, Stones, Alli, Lingard, and whoever to at least one tournament together before actually doing something in the second.

We need to say goodbye to the likes of Vardy, Jagielka, Johnson, Cahill, and look to the future once and for all.

[tomphil]

And the best thing to do is follow the German system as it's the one that would suit our Prem players the best. The old English kick and rush style of play or with flying wingers is gone. A few foreign gaffers have tried to get us playing a continental style but it's never really suited and Roy managed in the same style as he managed at Rovers and Liverpool, a balls up !

Maybe time for a Premier league approach and play to strengths and stick to it, also goodbye Wayne.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

What's the betting he doesn't see out the four years. I'll bet now he goes well before the end of 2020.

[JHRover]

Can't help but have the nagging feeling that they've wanted Southgate all along and Allardyce was only ever going to be a stop-gap. They could never have appointed Southgate directly to replace Hodgson after the fiasco in France, however after the Allardyce debacle all of a sudden the idea of going in house with Southgate is a lot more popular in the media and with the public than it once would have been.

Allardyce was everything the FA don't want. Old school, controlling, strong minded, demanding, wants things his way, not afraid to speak his mind and upset people. They're much more comfortable with one of their own who knows the system and will work in the way they want.

Southgate has probably got more of a chance of surviving than any of the others. He's more like McClaren. Allardyce and Capello were too hard to control, Eriksson was caught out with the press too many times. McClaren was 'one of theirs' but disaster struck in 2008 and he had to go after failing to qualify. As long as Southgate delivers qualification for the tournaments, which a baboon ought to be able to achieve when up against the likes of Malta, then he'll be kept on under the pretense that he's developing some bright future for England and all it needs is some patience.

[joey_big_nose]

If you are brutally honest it's a hilariously bad appointment. I mean a total joke.

[jim mk2]

And the best thing to do is follow the German system as it's the one that would suit our Prem players the best. The old English kick and rush style of play or with flying wingers is gone. A few foreign gaffers have tried to get us playing a continental style but it's never really suited and Roy managed in the same style as he managed at Rovers and Liverpool, a balls up !

Maybe time for a Premier league approach and play to strengths and stick to it, also goodbye Wayne.

Terry Vegetables had us playing good football 20 years ago but then he was blessed with the likes of Gascoigne, Waddle and Beardsley in his squad.

[chaddyrovers]

Terry Vegetables had us playing good football 20 years ago but then he was blessed with the likes of Gascoigne, Waddle and Beardsley in his squad.

Waddle never played for England under Venables.

All played under Sir Bobby Robson tho

[joey_big_nose]

What's the betting he doesn't see out the four years. I'll bet now he goes well before the end of 2020.

I don't think he'll last two years...

Why can't we produce managers? We've not had a genuinely top class manager in charge of England - indeed in charge of a club - since Robson.

[rigger]

I don't think he'll last two years...

Why can't we produce managers? We've not had a genuinely top class manager in charge of England - indeed in charge of a club - since Robson.

Because football is now motivated only by money