Gav Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 EXCLUSIVE: Sam Allardyce to be named new England manager in the next 24 hours https://t.co/eOXCA1RPLVhttps://t.co/A8OBBxwSP2 He would be an excellent appointment as England manager The best English option was Eddie Howe in my opinion, but with the FA having decided to go down 'the tried and tested route' in a straight fight between 2 of the fattest heads in English football it would have to be Allardyce for me also. We call for younger players to be given an chance, Roy did just that, we should expect younger managers with new ideas to be afforded the same, but no chance with the FA so set in its ways. We need new ideas, new approaches from the grass routes up, and yet we appoint Allardyce, a manager thats been managing for 25yrs, he'll be full of new ideas........ and he's never won a bean either. Maybe time to switch off the national side again until he's gone.
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Backroom Mike E Posted July 20, 2016 Backroom Posted July 20, 2016 Allardyce's attitude is what we hope will rub off on the players. Never-say-die! Allardyce has successfully managed the egos of Champions League and World Cup finalists and winners. Most players he manages regard him as their best or favourite to work for. Included in that are Okocha, Djorkaeff, and our very own David Dunn! 'Hoofball', my arse!
chaddyrovers Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 Big Sam has experience in winning games, tactical awareness, good man management skills, will drop the big players if not performing. Howe was too young for it. They were rumours that he even thought he was too young for it. International football is for older manager. Look at the age of coaches who has won world cups and Euros have been in their 50's or 60's. Experience every time
davulsukur Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 Excellent appointment as far as I am concerned. Taken alot of stick over the years, now he's got the top job. Good luck to him, I reckon he will do well.
Backroom DE. Posted July 20, 2016 Backroom Posted July 20, 2016 Looking forward to seeing what Allardyce can do with England. After the disaster that was Hodgson we can only get better. At least Harry @#/? Kane won't be taking all of our set pieces going forward.
frosty Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 Great news regarding Big Sam, if the FA want an English manager then he's the standout candidate by a mile.
had.e.nuff Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 Big Sam has experience in winning games, tactical awareness, good man management skills, will drop the big players if not performing. Howe was too young for it. They were rumours that he even thought he was too young for it. International football is for older manager. Look at the age of coaches who has won world cups and Euros have been in their 50's or 60's. Experience every time would like to see Howe as his number two with an eye on the future
blueboy3333 Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 Aaron Cresswell on Big Sam:- I’ve a lot to credit him for,” Cresswell says. “He brought me to the club and I can’t speak any more highly of the year I worked under him. He was fantastic with me personally and, if you ask any of the other boys, they’ll say the same thing. His man-management skills were very good, top drawer, so I think, if he does get the job, he’ll do very well. It’s a good fit for England and we’ll see if he gets it. He had a fantastic coaching staff with him; you’d work on your weaknesses every day, trying to progress and improve as a player, and that’s what I think I did.” https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/18/aaron-cresswell-sam-allardyce-england-manager
BlueMonday Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 Joachim Löw was 46 when he was made Germany Manager, and wasn't a vastly experienced manage prior to that. Howe, with an experienced assistant manger would be the one to take England forward. If the FA are going the Sam route, Howe should be brought into the set up in some form, even part time so he can continue with League management. Edit: Had e nuff, beat me to it.
Gav Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 Hoof of it to Andy Kick it long to Andy Hoof it andy He was incapable of winning away from home whilst he was here, tactically out thought, the team out played, it was pathetic for his entire time here. I doubt the English media or fans will accept surrendering each and ever time we play away from home.
Neal Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 To be honest... I think thats exactly what was needed against Iceland.
arbitro Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 I feel a bit for Sunderland and once again the dithering FA are found wanting. It is now a few weeks since Hodgson resigned and an appointment could have been made within 48 hours as Allardyce has never made any secret of his desire to manage England. Now just over three weeks from the start of the season Sunderland will have to search for a new manager which could take some time. The FA will no doubt compensate Sunderland but a bad start could cost them dearly. Good luck to Sam though.
chaddyrovers Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 Joachim Löw was 46 when he was made Germany Manager, and wasn't a vastly experienced manage prior to that. Howe, with an experienced assistant manger would be the one to take England forward. If the FA are going the Sam route, Howe should be brought into the set up in some form, even part time so he can continue with League management. Edit: Had e nuff, beat me to it. but won a tournament at 54 years old. Howe should be part of the set up
BlueMonday Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 but won a tournament at 54 years old. Howe should be part of the set up But he was 46 (actually 44 as assistant manager) when he was appointed and hadn't done much as a league manager. So there is an example of appointing a YOUNG manager. Which makes my case for Howe, who is 39yrs and definitely has potential.
des Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 well big sam has always said he is more then a long ball manager well time will tell, for me he has always play the same way ball in the box as quickly as ou can
chaddyrovers Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 But he was 46 (actually 44 as assistant manager) when he was appointed and hadn't done much as a league manager. So there is an example of appointing a YOUNG manager. Which makes my case for Howe, who is 39yrs and definitely has potential. And you really think the English media and fans would put up with a manager for 8 years and not winning anything. Not a chance. Howe should be involved in the set up but not as manager. Far too Young. Look at McClaren and his failure
Backroom Mike E Posted July 20, 2016 Backroom Posted July 20, 2016 And you really think the English media and fans would put up with a manager for 8 years and not winning anything. Not a chance. Howe should be involved in the set up but not as manager. Far too Young. Look at McClaren and his failure Hence, get a manager in there PT as Sam's understudy For success, look at what Hughes (and later Speed after Toshack took them backwards) started with Wales.
BlueMonday Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 And you really think the English media and fans would put up with a manager for 8 years and not winning anything. Not a chance. Howe should be involved in the set up but not as manager. Far too Young. Look at McClaren and his failure Well, its been a lot longer than 8 years since we won owt, but there Chaddy you have identified the problem. Thats precisely what we should be doing. Putting in a young manager and giving him the time to develop a system and an attitude that will have us winning tournaments for decades to come. Just like Germany.
1864roverite Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 If only Venkys could realise the error of their ways. Good luck Sam I am sure that you will do well.
Blue blood Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 Think it's a decent appointment tbh. Problem is he won't be given a chance as he's unfashionable. But the work he has done with Sunderland, Blackburn and Bolton, and to a certain extend West Ham, show he is the best English manager at the moment. He's managed many big names. and got lesser teams punching above their weight. England are a lesser team with lots of big names, so it should be a good fit. I think there are better managers out there but English ones? If that's the criteria he's clearly the best manager for the job. I worry the press will hound him out and make it an impossible job from the start for him.
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