tomphil Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 The Coyleist's head will roll a game or two after the window slams shut. There'll be a period of Dunny or Johnson along the lines of GB and if there is a result or two they'll get the job until the next window. @#/? take all round.
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USABlue Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Just FYI, bypassing the swear filter is against the rules. If you must swear, then swear ano have it picked up by the filter. Unfortunately dick, prick, bullshit, and bullshitter are still not getting picked up. Get on it Glenn and Ste! Bunkum neither
Speedie Dived Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Just FYI, bypassing the swear filter is against the rules. If you must swear, then swear ano have it picked up by the filter. Unfortunately dick, prick, bullshit, and bullshitter are still not getting picked up. Get on it Glenn and Ste! Ha ha, it's like the Raos formed a band.
Mike Graham Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Was interested in Burke from West Ham but join Wigan https://t.co/LZ3q16c5pj Wigan are a bigger club than Rovers and have more amibition.
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted August 28, 2016 Moderation Lead Posted August 28, 2016 They've definitely got more ambition. Not a chance are they a bigger club though.
Mike Graham Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Just stoking the wasps nest with a stick. Just approaching the brothel with a lottery win.
McClarky Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Someone like Hendrie is a classic example of why this loaning of PL youngsters doesn't work for clubs like us. There are of course exceptions but in the main all WHU are doing is running down his contract and getting someone else to pay some of his wages in the meantime. He isn't ever going back to WHU to play so is basically clicking his heels now until he gets released. Not good enough and not motivated. Expect a couple more no hopers to cone in through the same route this week.
tomphil Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 We are maybe getting these lads in for 3-5k pwk and just because they are from Prem clubs doesn't mean they are any good. Even if they are they aren't equipped to drag a team from the foot of the Championship at a club in turmoil. They're here because it's a cheapo way of throwing a team together which may end up with a bit of youthful flair about it instead of loaning plodders on 10 grand per week from other Champ clubs benches. But like I said it isn't a policy that will keep us up and I'm sure those clubs lending these lads are ever so grateful to someone somewhere giving them some game time and getting their clients in the shop windows
Stuart Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Rovers bringing in loan players en masse is really the final insult. Parading players with no financial return for the club / Venkys / loan repayments. Any money made goes to the parent club and the players' agents. Whilst we gamble our future on them gelling immediately and keeping us up.
Ricky Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 100% right Stuart. This many loans will not benefit us in any way.
McClarky Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 If we are looking at loaning players it should be players who have played maybe 100 or 150 games and have some experience in how to deal with difficult situations and how to graft out results. We just haven't got that at the moment.
tomphil Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 If we are looking at loaning players it should be players who have played maybe 100 or 150 games and have some experience in how to deal with difficult situations and how to graft out results. We just haven't got that at the moment. These kind of signings would have been great a few seasons ago to fill out and back up what was a half decent side. Replacing the deadwood with these kind of kids would have made sense but there'll never a plan with these lot. Even now with the cost cutting etc we could and should be in a much healthier state..
USABlue Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Me n spoon got banned for less , double standards yet no one will explain Probably just your "rep" precedes you Abbs. They've definitely got more ambition. Not a chance are they a bigger club though. At this point in time they might be.
DavidMailsTightPerm Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 If we are looking at loaning players it should be players who have played maybe 100 or 150 games and have some experience in how to deal with difficult situations and how to graft out results. We just haven't got that at the moment. Totally agree with this - ideally loan players would be experienced players to help youngsters like Mahoney and Linehan to aid their development, and to buy time while they developed. Not youngsters from other clubs that only block the progress of our existing youngsters.
blueboy3333 Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Totally agree with this - ideally loan players would be experienced players to help youngsters like Mahoney and Linehan to aid their development, and to buy time while they developed. Not youngsters from other clubs that only block the progress of our existing youngsters. He did the same at Bolton, signed Robbie Blake and Martin Petrov on free's when they were passed their best, and then signed the likes of Wilshere and Sturridge on loan. It's backward both from a football and financial perspective.
dallydally Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 The Coyleist's head will roll a game or two after the window slams shut. There'll be a period of Dunny or Johnson along the lines of GB and if there is a result or two they'll get the job until the next window. @#/? take all round. Hope you are right. With Coyle at the helm we are doomed. A quality Manager does make a difference; there are plenty of examples of that at all League levels. This guy is inept when it comes to strategy, tactics and team selection. Pulled a rabbit out of the hat at Burnley but will soon look like a rabbit in the headlights at Ewood.
Iceman Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Hope you are right. With Coyle at the helm we are doomed. A quality Manager does make a difference; there are plenty of examples of that at all League levels. This guy is inept when it comes to strategy, tactics and team selection. Pulled a rabbit out of the hat at Burnley but will soon look like a rabbit in the headlights at Ewood.We had a quality manager in Lambert. Thats not the problem right now even though Coyle is useless. We all know what the problem is.
alcd Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Someone like Hendrie is a classic example of why this loaning of PL youngsters doesn't work for clubs like us. There are of course exceptions but in the main all WHU are doing is running down his contract and getting someone else to pay some of his wages in the meantime. He isn't ever going back to WHU to play so is basically clicking his heels now until he gets released. Not good enough and not motivated. Expect a couple more no hopers to cone in through the same route this week. Absolutely right
Stuart Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 We had a quality manager in Lambert. Thats not the problem right now even though Coyle is useless. We all know what the problem is.It was like watching our last chance under 'this lot' come and go in the space of a few months.Raising expectations is the most frustrating thing: "Well they must have said they'll back him, having got the club out of embargo, or why would they have brought him in?" Has being out of embargo actually made much difference to our recruitment strategy? Do they even know that we aren't under embargo? Did anyone check the fax machines? So many questions, so few answers.
dallydally Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 We had a quality manager in Lambert. Thats not the problem right now even though Coyle is useless. We all know what the problem is. No it IS a problem. Yes the Venkys are the biggest issue by far but a decent guy at the helm would make a positive difference. Don't understand why people don't get this! And - by the way - I don't agree about Lambert. He flattered to deceive; clubs are hardly queuing up for him since he left Rovers are they?
Hasta Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 No it IS a problem. Yes the Venkys are the biggest issue by far but a decent guy at the helm would make a positive difference. Don't understand why people don't get this! And - by the way - I don't agree about Lambert. He flattered to deceive; clubs are hardly queuing up for him since he left Rovers are they? We also weren't getting one point from 15 with him though. He was better than Coyle. He was better than Bowyer. All 3 of them had a huge job under Venkys.
Pedro Posted August 29, 2016 Posted August 29, 2016 I've no problem at all with us signing loan players. It's the signing of rubbish players who offer nothing that annoys me.
Stuart Posted August 29, 2016 Posted August 29, 2016 No it IS a problem. Yes the Venkys are the biggest issue by far but a decent guy at the helm would make a positive difference. Don't understand why people don't get this! And - by the way - I don't agree about Lambert. He flattered to deceive; clubs are hardly queuing up for him since he left Rovers are they?I think this misses the point.No credible manager can work with no money - not if their target is to be successful. Lambert would have totally changed the culture of the club but he needed to be able to bring in quality players. Just look at the players he brought in as his loans and freebies. The first thing was to start to change the attitude and work ethic. This doesn't happen overnight. The players were on easy street and fitness was lacking. The next phase was to improve the quality of the squad in order to push for promotion. He was ignored. A decent manager in isolation could only do so much. A Warnock would keep this squad in the league. But he wouldn't get it promoted. That costs money.
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