[Archived] Transfers Part 2

[RevidgeBlue]

Just now, den said:

Not still crying over him surely? Where will the goals come from was the argument. Well even now, we still score goals. 

The crime here wasn't selling him. The crime was not reinvesting the crazy money in better players. 

Lambert Sussed him, Scotland sussed him, Boro sussed him. We've not missed him for a minute.

You're the one who's been sussed den. You argued for years until you were Blue in the face we'd be better off without him. Well we did sell him, we're second bottom and we look like we're going down.

The counter argument was always that if he was sold either the money wouldn't be reinvested or even if it was that any replacements might not come off.

 

[RevidgeBlue]

Just now, mustard said:

 

Well, yeah, duhh.  I mean quality strikers rivalling him for his place.  Like Negredo, Bamford, etc.

They're struggling for goals though with all these supposedly better players in the side.

[Mercer]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

You're the one who's been sussed den. You argued for years until you were Blue in the face we'd be better off without him. Well we did sell him, we're second bottom and we look like we're going down.

The counter argument was always that if he was sold either the money wouldn't be reinvested or even if it was that any replacements might not come off.

 

Scoring goals isn't our problem, conceding them is !

If you've nothing better to do, compare our goals / game average this season versus when Rhodes was here - I doubt there's a difference.

 

[islander200]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

You're the one who's been sussed den. You argued for years until you were Blue in the face we'd be better off without him. Well we did sell him, we're second bottom and we look like we're going down.

The counter argument was always that if he was sold either the money wouldn't be reinvested or even if it was that any replacements might not come off.

 

If Rhodes is so good like you claim why aren't clubs banging down the door to get him from Boro?Villa seem happier to pay 15 million for Scott Hogan rather than paying 10 for Rhodes.

Like iv said before Rhodes is a good goalscorer everything else in his game is league two standard.

We weren't pulling up trees in the league last season when Rhodes was here where we

 

 

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

Just now, mustard said:

 

Well, yeah, duhh.  I mean quality strikers rivalling him for his place.  Like Negredo, Bamford, etc.

Gestede?

[mustard]

Just now, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Gestede?

I don't think Gestede is that great.  He's brilliant in the air but his movement and finishing leave a lot to be desired.

[islander200]

Exactly struggling for goals and he can't even get on the bench.Tells you Karanka doesn't think he is to premier league standard

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

Are we assuming our business is done for the day?  Keeping our powder dry...and Marshall it seems.

[AllRoverAsia]

Just now, den said:

Not still crying over him surely? Where will the goals come from was the argument. Well even now, we still score goals. 

The crime here wasn't selling him. The crime was not reinvesting the crazy money in better players. 

Lambert Sussed him, Scotland sussed him, Boro sussed him. We've not missed him for a minute.

We score now due to Coyles gungho approach but concede too many. Rhodes would be on 30 goals a season under Coyle but in a relegated team...

Lamberts job was to get rid of Rhodes and leave...and for Balaji to spunk the cash.

I never believed that the Rhodes money would be reinvested in good players..it was only a year ago.

Jordan meanwhile is banking his cash still with the lunatic Kranky and over generous to Rovers Gibson.

[mustard]

Just now, islander200 said:

If Rhodes is so good like you claim why aren't clubs banging down the door to get him from Boro?Villa seem happier to pay 15 million for Scott Hogan rather than paying 10 for Rhodes.

Like iv said before Rhodes is a good goalscorer everything else in his game is league two standard.

We weren't pulling up trees in the league last season when Rhodes was here where we

 

 

£15mil?  Well, you've just made that one up.

Reported in excess of £9mil for Hogan.

[mustard]

Just now, islander200 said:

Exactly struggling for goals and he can't even get on the bench.Tells you Karanka doesn't think he is to premier league standard

Is that even the argument?

I thought the debate was "we'd be better off without him" vs "we won't be because the money won't be reinvested"

Are we in the Prem?  This is Championship relegation-placed Blackburn Rovers we are talking about.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

Just now, mustard said:

I don't think Gestede is that great.  He's brilliant in the air but his movement and finishing leave a lot to be desired.

Similar to my thoughts on Rhodes.  Finishing is brilliant but the rest of his game is shocking.  Horses for courses I suppose.  Oh to have the luxury of both and neither can get a game!  We really are in a poor state.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

Just now, AllRoverAsia said:

We score now due to Coyles gungho approach but concede too many. Rhodes would be on 30 goals a season under Coyle but in a relegated team...

Lamberts job was to get rid of Rhodes and leave...and for Balaji to spunk the cash.

I never believed that the Rhodes money would be reinvested in good players..it was only a year ago.

Jordan meanwhile is banking his cash still with the lunatic Kranky and over generous to Rovers Gibson.

No point paying his large wages then, surely?

[islander200]

Just now, mustard said:

£15mil?  Well, you've just made that one up.

Reported in excess of £9mil for Hogan.

Didn't make that up...with add ons it could potentially be 15 million.Regardless Villa could get Rhodes for a similar price but are going with Hogan

[mustard]

Just now, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Similar to my thoughts on Rhodes.  Finishing is brilliant but the rest of his game is shocking.  Horses for courses I suppose.  Oh to have the luxury of both and neither can get a game!  We really are in a poor state.

If everything else was as good as his finishing, he'd be a starter for United.

[Steve Moss]

16 hours ago, JAL said:

Could he not get in a very average Sheffield Wednesday team chaddy. 

The Wednesday supporters seem to think Joao has potential.  We might have done well here.

[RevidgeBlue]

11 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

About as well as he is at 'Boro. Where's all the guys who said he'd still be banging them in the Premier League ?

Slightly harsh. Even Pele or Maradona would struggle to "bang em  in" without being selected. I've just looked and JR has made 6 appearances this season. No idea if any of them were starts. Looking in from the outside it seems as if he wasn't Karanka choice in the first place and has suffered accordingly.

[den]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

You're the one who's been sussed den. You argued for years until you were Blue in the face we'd be better off without him. Well we did sell him, we're second bottom and we look like we're going down.

The counter argument was always that if he was sold either the money wouldn't be reinvested or even if it was that any replacements might not come off.

 

 

no Rev, you're wrong. 

 

Were second bottom because we've since sold or returned numerous players and replaced Lambert with Coyle. 

 

We sold Rhodes then spent the rest of that season scoring not fewer, but MORE goals. 

[Mercer]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

Slightly harsh. Even Pele or Maradona would struggle to "bang em  in" without being selected. I've just looked and JR has made 6 appearances this season. No idea if any of them were starts. Looking in from the outside it seems as if he wasn't Karanka choice in the first place and has suffered accordingly.

Bottom line is that Rhodes is vastly over priced in terms of transfer fee and wages.

He has a choice to make - does he want to play football for much smaller wages or does he want to sit on his arse and watch his bank balance mushroom.

I think the guy is another Andy Crawford.

 

 

[den]

Just now, AllRoverAsia said:

 

Lamberts job was to get rid of Rhodes and leave...and for Balaji to spunk the cash.

Garbage. Give me proof.

[AllRoverAsia]

Just now, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

No point paying his large wages then, surely?

No. His time with us is gone

[islander200]

Just now, mustard said:

Is that even the argument?

I thought the debate was "we'd be better off without him" vs "we won't be because the money won't be reinvested"

Are we in the Prem?  This is Championship relegation-placed Blackburn Rovers we are talking about.

I just don't rate Rhodes.And Imo we have a better group of forwards this season than we had at the start of last season.Graham won't score as many goals as Rhodes but is a better all round player on half of Rhodes wages.Like I said in another thread when both careers are over Graham will have played more games and scored more goals in the premier league than Rhodes.

[RevidgeBlue]

Just now, den said:

 

no Rev, you're wrong. 

 

Were second bottom because we've since sold or returned numerous players and replaced Lambert with Coyle. 

 

We sold Rhodes then spent the rest of that season scoring not fewer, but MORE goals. 

Lol. You're arguing against yourself den. When people used to point out Rhodes scored goals you would say the game is about so much more than just goal scoring. The facts (so far) are indisputable. With him in the side we were generally mid table or slightly better. Without him we've been in the bottom 3 all season.

It's irrelevant we're scoring similar numbers of goals without him. If we were scoring seven goals a game but conceding eight, that wouldn't cut it either.

 

[eddy11d]

Surely no one's arguing that we've missed Rhodes? It's objectively not true.

[grizfoot]

Happy with getting Emnes back. I was impressed with what I saw from Joao last season for Wednesday, so looks like we have four decent striking options now already having Gallagher and Graham. Albeit three of them only being on loan.

Don't suppose we have any pennies left in the pot to get a new goalkeeper in? that should have been the main priority this window given how poor Steele's been this season and how Coyle obviously doesn't rate Raya .