[Archived] Transfers Part 2

[RevidgeBlue]

7 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Marshall was the last remaining player who had any technical ability that made him resemble something like an actual footballer. 

What the F is going on?

I hate this, we are an absolute joke of a club.

F*** off Venkys, you've done far too much damage as it is.

Can't disagree in genera about the ownersl but I certainly wouldn't use Marshall to illustrate  the point, he's been extremely poor for the vast majority of his time here and his attitude has stunk the place out for the last 12-18 months. Good riddance to bad rubbish for me. 

[roverstdt]

give me Paul Caddis any day now!

[RoverCanada]

Just now, JHRover said:

Now if the truth was circulated among the media boys, that Wolves had picked him up for a knock down fee of £200k or so, then not only would Rovers look even more stupid for not selling him last summer, but quite a few supporters would be asking questions such as why the club is letting a first teamer leave to a rival for such a low fee at this stage of the season given the position we are in.

One thing is certain - Wolves will have had the last laugh. Why would anyone think Rovers have had the better out of this situation? What possible reason would Wolves have to cough up £2 million now for him rather than wait a few months and get him for nothing?

You've been banging on about this for awhile now (in how many multi-paragraphed posts haha)... do you have anything to base this on other than conjecture? Marshall's not the only out-of-contract player to go for over a £1M in recent years, as well as this window. Is every news outlet in on some grand conspiracy to over report out-of-contract player fees? Inconsistent as he is, Marshall has been a well-touted player for some time. He's hardly an unknown and is a heck of a player at this level on his day (as few and far between as they can be)...

(Don't take this as some defence of Venky's... I just find your continued confidence in your opinion bizarre...)

[blueboy3333]

Just now, JHRover said:

Of course the Lancashire Telegraph reporter is broadcasting it as £1.5 million. That's the figure he's been throwing about all month. He will report what Rovers tell him to report.

Lets think about it. Who does it suit to inflate the fee by a million quid?
 

Wolves aren't bothered. They've got their man, the real fee is probably 500k, they've won because Rovers will have backed down rather than risk losing him for nothing. If its reported as £2 million then its some free positive publicity for them as it shows they are splashing the cash and mean business.

Rovers - of course it suits them if the fee is reported as higher than it is. It helps to propagate the myth that Venkys are doing right by the club, will only sell if the money is good, don't really want to let the best players go but will reluctantly do so if the club gets good money, that they would like to reinvest but just ran out of time and FFP rules mean we can't spend anything, but Rovers have at least 'done well' and 'forced' Wolves to pay 'over the odds' for a player who didn't want to be here. Everyone's happy and Rovers have got the best outcome possible.

Now if the truth was circulated among the media boys, that Wolves had picked him up for a knock down fee of £200k or so, then not only would Rovers look even more stupid for not selling him last summer, but quite a few supporters would be asking questions such as why the club is letting a first teamer leave to a rival for such a low fee at this stage of the season given the position we are in.

 

One thing is certain - Wolves will have had the last laugh. Why would anyone think Rovers have had the better out of this situation? What possible reason would Wolves have to cough up £2 million now for him rather than wait a few months and get him for nothing?

 

Venkys have pulled a fast one again and its all unfolded exactly as the plan stated. I hope Marshall spills the beans in his interview and admits that there was never a contract offer and that Coyle has been lying all these months about this nonsensical improved deal he's been banging on about.

The club has made its position and intentions clear. Nothing more to say and no amount of propaganda will alter that now.

Did Duffy not go for £4m when he was at the same stage in his contract. Not saying £1.5m is correct but even at that price they've got a good deal.There's not many better in this league than a motivated Marshall.

 

[RevidgeBlue]

Just now, JHRover said:

Of course the Lancashire Telegraph reporter is broadcasting it as £1.5 million. That's the figure he's been throwing about all month. He will report what Rovers tell him to report.

Lets think about it. Who does it suit to inflate the fee by a million quid?
 

Wolves aren't bothered. They've got their man, the real fee is probably 500k, they've won because Rovers will have backed down rather than risk losing him for nothing. If its reported as £2 million then its some free positive publicity for them as it shows they are splashing the cash and mean business.

Rovers - of course it suits them if the fee is reported as higher than it is. It helps to propagate the myth that Venkys are doing right by the club, will only sell if the money is good, don't really want to let the best players go but will reluctantly do so if the club gets good money, that they would like to reinvest but just ran out of time and FFP rules mean we can't spend anything, but Rovers have at least 'done well' and 'forced' Wolves to pay 'over the odds' for a player who didn't want to be here. Everyone's happy and Rovers have got the best outcome possible.

Now if the truth was circulated among the media boys, that Wolves had picked him up for a knock down fee of £200k or so, then not only would Rovers look even more stupid for not selling him last summer, but quite a few supporters would be asking questions such as why the club is letting a first teamer leave to a rival for such a low fee at this stage of the season given the position we are in.

 

One thing is certain - Wolves will have had the last laugh. Why would anyone think Rovers have had the better out of this situation? What possible reason would Wolves have to cough up £2 million now for him rather than wait a few months and get him for nothing?

 

Venkys have pulled a fast one again and its all unfolded exactly as the plan stated. I hope Marshall spills the beans in his interview and admits that there was never a contract offer and that Coyle has been lying all these months about this nonsensical improved deal he's been banging on about.

The club has made its position and intentions clear. Nothing more to say and no amount of propaganda will alter that now.

On the other hand, the fee for Marshall actually could have been 1.5m. Lol.

Fairly neutral window for me. Can't see we'll be unduly affected by the loss of Marshall the mood he's been in for ages, on the other hand unless the lad from Sheffield Wednesday is exceptional we haven't strengthened either. Didn't think we needed another CB either unless the plan is to release one or more of Mulgrew and Lenihan into midfield. However I can't see Cople being that imaginative. 

Bearing in mind our position this wasn't at all what was required. We needed major improvement all over the pitch. Shouldn't come as any major surprise though as it seems obvious to me the owners gave up throwing any money at it this time 12 months ago. Other than covering or guaranteeing losses that is.

 

[JHRover]

Just now, RoverCanada said:

You've been banging on about this for awhile now... do you have anything to base this on other than conjecture? Marshall's not the only out-of-contract player to go for over a £1M in recent years, as well as this window. Is every news outlet in on some grand conspiracy to over report out-of-contract player fees? Inconsistent as he is, Marshall has been a well-touted player for some time. He's hardly an unknown and is a heck of a player at this level on his day (as few and far between as they can be)...

(Don't take this as some defence of Venky's... I just find your continued confidence in your opinion bizarre...)

So if Marshall really has been sold for the £2 million circulated by some, which  other out of contract Championship players have gone for that amount or more this window? 

I'm not aware of any to reach that fee recently.

Of course I've got no evidence. Just like the media boys have no evidence other than what they are told on the grapevine by their contacts who usually have an interest in a certain fee or line of info going public. 

It's not really that much of a conspiracy. Rovers and Wolves announce it as 'undisclosed' whilst managers/agents/club employees drip feed info to local reporters to suit their agendas.

Why would Wolves go to that figure for such an inconsistent player who they could pick up for nothing in 4 months? 

Which is more likely here? That Wolves have suddenly come up with the cash and paid the inflated fee and Venky's hardline negotiations have won the day for the betterment of BRFC, or that Rovers have realised its a toss up between whatever they can get now or nothing in a few months? Given Rovers record over the last few months of sell whoever they can as quickly as they can often for less than they could have got (Cairney, Gestede) I'll put my money on the latter.

 

[roversfan99]

The admitted gross negligence of the owners is allowing Coyle to get away with murder, we have 5 strikers and absolutely no one who can play right back to an even competent level, nor did we ever seem to target one.

[JHRover]

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

Did Duffy not go for £4m when he was at the same stage in his contract. Not saying £1.5m is correct but even at that price they've got a good deal.There's not many better in this league than a motivated Marshall.

 

Duffy had a full year left on his deal, not 5 months.

A good deal for Rovers would have been £500k + a week ago, then reinvest £300k on a replacement and pocket the balance for running costs.

These days I don't think there is such a thing as a good deal for Rovers.

[Baz]

Quotes from Ben Marshall in LT suggest he hasn't been training with the squad for the last few weeks.

Forced out?

As for all the attitude stinks stuff, I'm amazed that people still buy that rubbish. Couldname around a dozen top pro's forced out of the club in the past few years with 'attitude' issues. 

[Rover_Shaun]

Did Nelsen ever walk again?

[pick32]

I bet josh Morris will move for 3million plus in the summer probably the best player in league one this season with 17 goals and 9 assists from midfield 

[islander200]

Just now, JHRover said:

So if Marshall really has been sold for the £2 million circulated by some, which  other out of contract Championship players have gone for that amount or more this window? 

I'm not aware of any to reach that fee recently.

Of course I've got no evidence. Just like the media boys have no evidence other than what they are told on the grapevine by their contacts who usually have an interest in a certain fee or line of info going public. 

It's not really that much of a conspiracy. Rovers and Wolves announce it as 'undisclosed' whilst managers/agents/club employees drip feed info to local reporters to suit their agendas.

Why would Wolves go to that figure for such an inconsistent player who they could pick up for nothing in 4 months? 

Which is more likely here? That Wolves have suddenly come up with the cash and paid the inflated fee and Venky's hardline negotiations have won the day for the betterment of BRFC, or that Rovers have realised its a toss up between whatever they can get now or nothing in a few months? Given Rovers record over the last few months of sell whoever they can as quickly as they can often for less than they could have got (Cairney, Gestede) I'll put my money on the latter.

 

Hourihane from Barnsley joined Villa as did lansbury both out of contract in the summer and I'm sure they both signed for 3 million each

[AllRoverAsia]

Let's see if the fee paid for Marshall is officially confirmed and verified. Personally I think JHR is spot on. 

Lambert said he would not let Wolves be screwed and he cant be part of another Rovers related bit of dodgy business can he.... 

Of course Marshall was forced out.  It had been going on for ages almost daily in the LT quoting Chimphead.

 

[JHRover]

Rovers will have taken what the only interested party were prepared to pay. In no position to demand more than that and in no mood to risk him walking for nothing. Dealing with a clued up club and manager who know how to handle these situations. That's what it amounts to and I'll take a lot of persuading that just because the Rovers propaganda machine reports it as £1.5 million that the club will be seeing anywhere near that amount.

[Silas]

Just now, Baz said:

Couldname around a dozen top pro's forced out of the club in the past few years with 'attitude' issues. 

Yeah, well, if even one or two of these "top pros" had the balls to speak out about it, then the picture would be a lot clearer, and maybe we would have gained a lot more traction in getting rid of these total clowns. 

As much as venkys has disillusioned me and killed off my passion for this sport, the actions (or lack) of numerous players has done as much damage. 

And some of them were longstanding players who basically had their whole career at Rovers. 

And i don't buy this nda crap. People don't talk cos in the 21st century we seem to breed cowards and wimps,  and folk just want to keep their heads down and look after no. 1. But sometimes in life you have to speak up just because it's the right thing to do. 

Moneygrabbing tossbags the lot of them. And they get a hell of an easy ride from most of our fans. 

To hear people begging for Samba in this window sickened me. I wouldn't want him to set foot in Ewood as a paying punter. 

Oh well,  maybe in league 1 we may end up with some players on the pitch that i actually respect as human beings and want to support. Only positive i can muster from today before i head to bed. 

[JHRover]

Forest signed Zak Clough from Bolton.

Wigan signed Omar Bogle from Grimsby. 

Shame about FFP rules though.

[spencey7]

Efe Ambrose is quite literally one of the the worst centre-backs ever watched in person. (See his calamity reels on YouTube.) If he comes in, we're down.

[AllRoverAsia]

Arsenal lost so not a totally wasted night, @sleeplessbkk

[JHRover]

Forest signed Ross McCormack.

Wigan signed Jack Byrne on a permanent deal from City.

[islander200]

Jack Byrne gone to wigan

[davulsukur]

From SSN

AMBROSE TO BLACKBURN

Blackburn have told us that Efe Ambrose'stransfer from Celtic has not been confirmed by the Football League, but confirmation is expected in the morning.

[RevidgeBlue]

Just now, JHRover said:

Forest signed Zak Clough from Bolton.

Wigan signed Omar Bogle from Grimsby. 

Shame about FFP rules though.

You're now allowed to run up 39m worth of losses in a 3 year period aren't you? ts

Lots of Clubs apart from us  rolling the dice it seems.

 

 

[47er]

50 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Stokes is apparently staying. 5 strikers on the books while our central midfield resembles something from a playground. Good work, Owen/Senior.

Exciting football obviously ahead! Edge of the seat tine! 

[JHRover]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

You're now allowed to run up 39m worth of losses in a 3 year period aren't you? ts

Lots of Clubs apart from us  rolling the dice it seems.

 

 

That's my point. Cheston keeps banging on about FFP rules and yet everyone else is spending, nobody else has brought in the cash we have recently, and even recently embargoed clubs like Forest are able to spend a few million on quality additions to try and climb the league.

[47er]

44 minutes ago, johnradfordsubbuteo said:

Ha ha! Modou Barrow to Leeds....hmm.

He'll suddenly look like a world beater tomorrow night.

Good move for Leeds that. Another loanee we wasted.