chaddyrovers Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Dunnfc said: I think yourself and Biz should be careful here to alluding that I've lied. That is simply not the case and was rebuffed directly to you when your first suggested this, two pages back. He could quite easily be mistaken, misquoted, PR spun to suit a story or maybe even human error. It's not like that's not ever happened before at this football club. I've no agenda as confirmed over Mowbray, I've told you that Chaddy numerous times now. Fact is he's got all to prove as so far he's hardly done anything of note to write home about. Anti-Mowbray? I don't believe anyone is more so some people including my very self don't believe he went to India at all and remains cautious about how he will perform. Mowbray went to India reported by 3 different sources including the official website, Rich Sharpe and Andy Bayes. If you choose to ignore them or call them untrustworthy or liars that your choice not mine.
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AllRoverAsia Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, Suhail Slayer said: TBF we 1 source regurgitated 3 times Not aimed directly at you Suhail but this really needs binning and is achieving nothing. On the Rovers site Mowbray was quoted as saying he went and enjoyed. Unless proven otherwise he went. Best left at that otherwise it gets messy on here for no good reason. All we are really interested in is success on the 'Grass'
AllRoverAsia Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 FFS it's 3 am here. Stsyed up to watch the end of Essex v Notts 50 over game fantastic. Bed calls.
SoldierMo Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, renrag said: By the way, did the Elton John concert go ahead? No elton was in india
chaddyrovers Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 4 hours ago, Mike E said: Has chaddy's personality flipped or something? We've gone from 'help me' to 'I double dare you mother keaner!' Just dont like people calling Mowbray a liar or not being honest. 2 hours ago, AllRoverAsia said: Not aimed directly at you Suhail but this really needs binning and is achieving nothing. On the Rovers site Mowbray was quoted as saying he went and enjoyed. Unless proven otherwise he went. Best left at that otherwise it gets messy on here for no good reason. All we are really interested in is success on the 'Grass' Exactly.. 2 hours ago, Suhail Slayer said: TBF we 1 source regurgitated 3 times 3 sources. All spoke Mowbray. Are you saying isnt telling the truth?
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 Anyway, whilst Whittingham is a decent signing for league 1. It is hard to get too excited about a player we would have openly derided 4-5 years ago. You'd think we'd signed Iniesta by the amount of crooning Mowbray is doing. Going to take much more than this to believe there is any kind of revolution.
Butty Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 10 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Here the link . Nope. Would Venkys sell Graham for 1 Million though Chaddy? a resounding YES
JBiz Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 Just now, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said: Anyway, whilst Whittingham is a decent signing for league 1. It is hard to get too excited about a player we would have openly derided 4-5 years ago. You'd think we'd signed Iniesta by the amount of crooning Mowbray is doing. Going to take much more than this to believe there is any kind of revolution. It's like hiring big Sam, 13 years after winning the championship. Where is the ambition?
funny-old-game Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 Just now, Biz said: It's like hiring big Sam, 13 years after winning the championship. Where is the ambition? It died when the Venky's came along.
chaddyrovers Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 Mowbray future recruitment plans http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/15353948.Rovers_looking_to_step_up_recruitment_drive_as_they_aim_to_follow_up_Peter_Whittingham_addition/?ref=mac
chaddyrovers Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 8 hours ago, Butty said: Would Venkys sell Graham for 1 Million though Chaddy? a resounding YES But no truth in the story so take a chill pill, calm down and sit down please
OJRovers Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 The owners wouldn't give the club a bean last summer and January to stay in the Championship, yet all of a sudden they're prepared to bank roll massive wages and sign players in League 1. It doesnt add up.
chaddyrovers Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 10 hours ago, renrag said: By the way, did the Elton John concert go ahead? Think so. Knew a few people who went. But it was meant to be cancelled tho? What happen?
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted June 17, 2017 Moderation Lead Posted June 17, 2017 Any transfers then lads/lasses? Or what?
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: Mowbray future recruitment plans http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/15353948.Rovers_looking_to_step_up_recruitment_drive_as_they_aim_to_follow_up_Peter_Whittingham_addition/?ref=mac Doesn't sound like we are going to bringing in many - reality is starting to bite now. I never thought I'd see the day (even back in the 70s/80s when we were skint) when Bury are spending more than us.
davulsukur Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 Just now, K-Hod said: Any transfers then lads/lasses? Or what? Sadly not but we really could have done with getting 3 players at least in through the door already. The longer we go without signing anyone, the more I worry Venkys have stopped answering the phone, which in turn leads to TM walking out.
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 8 hours ago, Biz said: It's like hiring big Sam, 13 years after winning the championship. Where is the ambition? No idea if that's sarcasm or a genuine point - depending on your viewpoint of Allardyce!
Eternal Optimist Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 Whoever suggested Kadeem Harris from Cardiff......he has just signed a new contract with them
AllRoverAsia Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 27 minutes ago, OJRovers said: The owners wouldn't give the club a bean last summer and January to stay in the Championship, yet all of a sudden they're prepared to bank roll massive wages and sign players in League 1. It doesnt add up. It hasn't happened yet. Whittingham was a free and his wages well covered by summer outgoings. Let's wait and see if the Raos invest in players without selling first. I will not be holding my breath as I wait. Ewood sound bites are cheap but good players cost money on fees and or wages. Leopards and Spots.
JBiz Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 Just now, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said: No idea if that's sarcasm or a genuine point - depending on your viewpoint of Allardyce! Sarcasm I'm afraid, never translates well in text especially after a few beers. The point was it's not exactly relevant when we are division 3- who we would've signed 5 years ago. The irony also, PW's Cardiff sealed promotion 4 years ago, I doubt many would've derided or baulked at us signing him from a team that'd just achieved promotion! I do see your point about "believing" in a revolution though. Will take much more than signing a 32 year old on a free, and keeping an actual manager.
RoverCanada Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 22 minutes ago, OJRovers said: The owners wouldn't give the club a bean last summer and January to stay in the Championship, yet all of a sudden they're prepared to bank roll massive wages and sign players in League 1. It doesnt add up. Wages may just end up being large by League 1 standards. Bury's wage bill was £4.2m, Wimbledon £2.6m, Bristol Rovers £3.6m, Scunthorpe £5.3m (just picking out random teams). If Venky's is sanctioning a wage bill of, say, £10m (I forget what kind of turnover we're looking at now, but just picking out a number), then that's 'massive' relative to League 1. Suppose Venky's are essentially willing to fund £3m of losses every year. That's hardly any sort of commitment in the Championship but that's quite large for a League 1 club. As an absolute value, our year-to-year losses may now be quite small relative to Venky's supposed wealth.
tomphil Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 They've got rid of Lowe, Akpan & Guthrie that's 3 midfielders taking up 30k pwk + in wages probably. So far they've replaced them with Whittingham on a 2 year c 10k pwk deal so they'll be delighted with that and the phone could very well be off the hook again now as the downgrade in numbers is taking shape. A couple promoted from the youth or maybe a loan paid mostly by the parent club will replace the others that's the way it'll go let's be real and not expect too much. Whittingham will be the marquee signing.
Bigdoggsteel Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 Do we need to spend more than has been freed up by wages etc? Our squad was bloated with crap. Some quality additions, along with youth and we will have a quality league 1 side. We don't HAVE to sign players for fees. It seems some people here won't be happy unless we do, regardless if we can get players who are good or better and out of contract.
AllRoverAsia Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 ... 'frees' or 'out of contract' means the same when we talk about recruitment. No fee just wages. You know that, I know that, we all know that.
Dunnfc Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: Do we need to spend more than has been freed up by wages etc? Our squad was bloated with crap. Some quality additions, along with youth and we will have a quality league 1 side. We don't HAVE to sign players for fees. It seems some people here won't be happy unless we do, regardless if we can get players who are good or better and out of contract. Along with youth. You've been brainwashed sir! Everything coming out the Rovers PR machine is youth youth youth. It's cheap and can can sell at profit. Only issue is our youth who've played in the FT are poor.
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