[Archived] Transfers Part 2

[cesus]

23 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Sheff Utd have had a couple of bids turned down for Lenihan according to Pete O'Rourke from Sky Sports. 

Lancs telegraph reporter has confirmed this too. Though with the standard of reporting there these days he may have just read your post!

[JayPeeBee40]

1 minute ago, Suhail Slayer said:

 

The Venky light (sponsored by WEC) has gone back to RED.

Cashflow drive to sell season tickets using fan euphoria at 4 signings is now over. Normal business is resumed.

Next will be the player sales, the staff redundancies and the other cuts as recommended by Deloitte & KPMG

 

I was told some weeks ago to be concerned by their presence at the club.

[gazsimm]

We have got 2 keepers if Steele stays?, plus Fisher looks like he is going to be a good keeper. Graham will be playing up top on his own next season with Dack or Bennett playing behind him I reckon

Out of the players we let go  I would of only kept 1 player and that would of been Mahoney but was never going to stay. We only released 8 players by the way the rest were youth players or loan players.

TM will no doubt bring in another forward for back up either on a perm on loan.

 

[Dunnfc]

BOLTON SQUAD This year, look at the numbers, look at the ages. No youth back up and around 26. I've omitted Chris Taylor and Jamie proctor as they only played half a season and ended up loaned out at the end. Under an embargo too where they even have to release a player before signing one. Comparing us with them is utter nonsense 

No.	Name	Pos.	Nationality	Place of birth	Age	Apps	Goals	Signed from	Date signed	Fee	End
Goalkeepers
13	Ben Alnwick	GK		Prudhoe	30	26	0	Peterborough United	31 August 2016	Free	2018
33	Mark Howard	GK		Southwark	30	29	0	Sheffield United	13 July 2016	Free	2018
Defenders
2	Lewis Buxton	RB		Newport	33	11	0	Rotherham United	5 August 2016	Free	2017
3	Dean Moxey	LB		Exeter	31	82	2	Crystal Palace	2 July 2014	Free	2017
4	Dorian Dervite	CB		Lille	28	83	1	Charlton Athletic	27 May 2014	Free	2017
5	Mark Beevers	CB		Barnsley	27	51	7	Millwall	3 July 2016	Free	2018
15	Derik Osede	CB		Madrid	24	51	0	Real Madrid	6 July 2015	Free	2018
20	Andrew Taylor	LB		Hartlepool	30	40	0	Wigan Athletic	10 August 2016	Loan	2017
23	Lawrie Wilson	RB		Collier Row	29	39	2	Charlton Athletic	5 August 2015	Free	2017
25	Reece Wabara	RB		Bromsgrove	25	1	0	Free Agent	15 February 2017	Free	2017
31	David Wheater	CB		Redcar	30	167	15	Middlesbrough	20 January 2011	Undisclosed	2017
Midfielders
6	Josh Vela	CM		Salford	23	132	12	Academy	20 March 2011	Trainee	2019
8	Jay Spearing	DM		Wallasey	28	173	10	Liverpool	9 August 2013	Undisclosed	2017
10	Jem Karacan	CM		Catford	28	5	1	Free Agent	11 March 2017	Free	2017
11	Viv Solomon-Otabor	LW		London	21	4	0	Birmingham City	31 January 2017	Loan	2017
16	Mark Davies	CM		Willenhall	29	208	16	Wolverhampton Wanderers	26 January 2009	Undisclosed	2017
17	Liam Trotter	CM		Ipswich	28	74	6	Millwall	1 July 2014	Free	2017
21	Darren Pratley	CM		Barking	32	168	15	Swansea City	1 July 2011	Free	2018
22	Filipe Morais	RW		Benavente	31	19	2	Bradford City	2 February 2017	Free	2017
24	James Henry	RW		Reading	27	35	2	Wolverhampton Wanderers	31 August 2016	Loan	2017
32	Tom Thorpe	CM		Manchester	24	25	1	Rotherham United	31 August 2016	Loan	2017
Forwards
12	Chris Long	CF		Huyton	22	10	1	Burnley	31 January 2017	Loan	2017
14	Gary Madine	CF		Gateshead	26	78	16	Sheffield Wednesday	8 June 2015	Free	2017
19	Max Clayton	CF		Crewe	22	30	2	Crewe Alexandra	18 September 2014	£300,000	2017
35	Conor Wilkinson	CF		Croydon	22	16	0	Millwall	2 July 2013	Undisclosed	2018
45	Adam Le Fondre	CF		Stockport	30	36	14	Cardiff City	31 January 2017	Loan	2017

[J*B]

I bloody love Suhail Slayer. By far the best poster on here.

[Bigdoggsteel]

6 minutes ago, Dunnfc said:

BOLTON SQUAD This year, look at the numbers, look at the ages. No youth back up and around 26. I've omitted Chris Taylor and Jamie proctor as they only played half a season and ended up loaned out at the end. Under an embargo too where they even have to release a player before signing one. Comparing us with them is utter nonsense 

No.	Name	Pos.	Nationality	Place of birth	Age	Apps	Goals	Signed from	Date signed	Fee	End
Goalkeepers
13	Ben Alnwick	GK		Prudhoe	30	26	0	Peterborough United	31 August 2016	Free	2018
33	Mark Howard	GK		Southwark	30	29	0	Sheffield United	13 July 2016	Free	2018
Defenders
2	Lewis Buxton	RB		Newport	33	11	0	Rotherham United	5 August 2016	Free	2017
3	Dean Moxey	LB		Exeter	31	82	2	Crystal Palace	2 July 2014	Free	2017
4	Dorian Dervite	CB		Lille	28	83	1	Charlton Athletic	27 May 2014	Free	2017
5	Mark Beevers	CB		Barnsley	27	51	7	Millwall	3 July 2016	Free	2018
15	Derik Osede	CB		Madrid	24	51	0	Real Madrid	6 July 2015	Free	2018
20	Andrew Taylor	LB		Hartlepool	30	40	0	Wigan Athletic	10 August 2016	Loan	2017
23	Lawrie Wilson	RB		Collier Row	29	39	2	Charlton Athletic	5 August 2015	Free	2017
25	Reece Wabara	RB		Bromsgrove	25	1	0	Free Agent	15 February 2017	Free	2017
31	David Wheater	CB		Redcar	30	167	15	Middlesbrough	20 January 2011	Undisclosed	2017
Midfielders
6	Josh Vela	CM		Salford	23	132	12	Academy	20 March 2011	Trainee	2019
8	Jay Spearing	DM		Wallasey	28	173	10	Liverpool	9 August 2013	Undisclosed	2017
10	Jem Karacan	CM		Catford	28	5	1	Free Agent	11 March 2017	Free	2017
11	Viv Solomon-Otabor	LW		London	21	4	0	Birmingham City	31 January 2017	Loan	2017
16	Mark Davies	CM		Willenhall	29	208	16	Wolverhampton Wanderers	26 January 2009	Undisclosed	2017
17	Liam Trotter	CM		Ipswich	28	74	6	Millwall	1 July 2014	Free	2017
21	Darren Pratley	CM		Barking	32	168	15	Swansea City	1 July 2011	Free	2018
22	Filipe Morais	RW		Benavente	31	19	2	Bradford City	2 February 2017	Free	2017
24	James Henry	RW		Reading	27	35	2	Wolverhampton Wanderers	31 August 2016	Loan	2017
32	Tom Thorpe	CM		Manchester	24	25	1	Rotherham United	31 August 2016	Loan	2017
Forwards
12	Chris Long	CF		Huyton	22	10	1	Burnley	31 January 2017	Loan	2017
14	Gary Madine	CF		Gateshead	26	78	16	Sheffield Wednesday	8 June 2015	Free	2017
19	Max Clayton	CF		Crewe	22	30	2	Crewe Alexandra	18 September 2014	£300,000	2017
35	Conor Wilkinson	CF		Croydon	22	16	0	Millwall	2 July 2013	Undisclosed	2018
45	Adam Le Fondre	CF		Stockport	30	36	14	Cardiff City	31 January 2017	Loan	2017

From that, who would make our starting 11? 

[G Somerset Rover]

Worrying that the LET article talks publicly about us having a valuation. Now there's no issue with that, but no doubt that will be hit just as the window is about to slam shut in true Venkys style. We need to keep him at all costs though IMO if we're serious about getting out of the league (up, not down that is).

[J*B]

All very convenient if you ask me.

Bang. Season ticket early renewal deadline passes. 

Bang. Can no longer offer the wages to McMahon. 

Bang. There is interest in our only real assets. 

[Dunnfc]

8 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

From that, who would make our starting 11? 

Osede at RB, or Vela

mark Davies, jay spearing, James Henry the right winger, karacan. Trotter and pratley possibly. Lad next to me says morais 15 assists this year in less than a full season.

le fondre up top

dont forget they loaned Ben Amos to Cardiff 

cant expect to play same 11 a week in a trophy, 2x cup comps, 46 league games, I'd say at least four of them we'd have.

[gazsimm]

9 minutes ago, Dunnfc said:

BOLTON SQUAD This year, look at the numbers, look at the ages. No youth back up and around 26. I've omitted Chris Taylor and Jamie proctor as they only played half a season and ended up loaned out at the end. Under an embargo too where they even have to release a player before signing one. Comparing us with them is utter nonsense 

No.	Name	Pos.	Nationality	Place of birth	Age	Apps	Goals	Signed from	Date signed	Fee	End
Goalkeepers
13	Ben Alnwick	GK		Prudhoe	30	26	0	Peterborough United	31 August 2016	Free	2018
33	Mark Howard	GK		Southwark	30	29	0	Sheffield United	13 July 2016	Free	2018
Defenders
2	Lewis Buxton	RB		Newport	33	11	0	Rotherham United	5 August 2016	Free	2017
3	Dean Moxey	LB		Exeter	31	82	2	Crystal Palace	2 July 2014	Free	2017
4	Dorian Dervite	CB		Lille	28	83	1	Charlton Athletic	27 May 2014	Free	2017
5	Mark Beevers	CB		Barnsley	27	51	7	Millwall	3 July 2016	Free	2018
15	Derik Osede	CB		Madrid	24	51	0	Real Madrid	6 July 2015	Free	2018
20	Andrew Taylor	LB		Hartlepool	30	40	0	Wigan Athletic	10 August 2016	Loan	2017
23	Lawrie Wilson	RB		Collier Row	29	39	2	Charlton Athletic	5 August 2015	Free	2017
25	Reece Wabara	RB		Bromsgrove	25	1	0	Free Agent	15 February 2017	Free	2017
31	David Wheater	CB		Redcar	30	167	15	Middlesbrough	20 January 2011	Undisclosed	2017
Midfielders
6	Josh Vela	CM		Salford	23	132	12	Academy	20 March 2011	Trainee	2019
8	Jay Spearing	DM		Wallasey	28	173	10	Liverpool	9 August 2013	Undisclosed	2017
10	Jem Karacan	CM		Catford	28	5	1	Free Agent	11 March 2017	Free	2017
11	Viv Solomon-Otabor	LW		London	21	4	0	Birmingham City	31 January 2017	Loan	2017
16	Mark Davies	CM		Willenhall	29	208	16	Wolverhampton Wanderers	26 January 2009	Undisclosed	2017
17	Liam Trotter	CM		Ipswich	28	74	6	Millwall	1 July 2014	Free	2017
21	Darren Pratley	CM		Barking	32	168	15	Swansea City	1 July 2011	Free	2018
22	Filipe Morais	RW		Benavente	31	19	2	Bradford City	2 February 2017	Free	2017
24	James Henry	RW		Reading	27	35	2	Wolverhampton Wanderers	31 August 2016	Loan	2017
32	Tom Thorpe	CM		Manchester	24	25	1	Rotherham United	31 August 2016	Loan	2017
Forwards
12	Chris Long	CF		Huyton	22	10	1	Burnley	31 January 2017	Loan	2017
14	Gary Madine	CF		Gateshead	26	78	16	Sheffield Wednesday	8 June 2015	Free	2017
19	Max Clayton	CF		Crewe	22	30	2	Crewe Alexandra	18 September 2014	£300,000	2017
35	Conor Wilkinson	CF		Croydon	22	16	0	Millwall	2 July 2013	Undisclosed	2018
45	Adam Le Fondre	CF		Stockport	30	36	14	Cardiff City	31 January 2017	Loan	2017

They probably had a bigger squad then we have currently but quite a few of these players did not play for Bolton last season and they had quite a lot of loans.

A couple of loans will be in before the end of transfer window to bolster the squad as well.

[gazsimm]

10 minutes ago, Dunnfc said:

Osede at RB, or Vela

mark Davies, jay spearing, James Henry the right winger, karacan. Trotter and pratley possibly. Lad next to me says morais 15 assists this year in less than a full season.

le fondre up top

dont forget they loaned Ben Amos to Cardiff 

cant expect to play same 11 a week in a trophy, 2x cup comps, 46 league games, I'd say at least four of them we'd have.

Le Fondre , possibly Vela and Wheater could get in Rovers starting 11 the rest are no better then what we have 

[Bigdoggsteel]

11 minutes ago, Dunnfc said:

Osede at RB, or Vela

mark Davies, jay spearing, James Henry the right winger, karacan. Trotter and pratley possibly. Lad next to me says morais 15 assists this year in less than a full season.

le fondre up top

dont forget they loaned Ben Amos to Cardiff 

cant expect to play same 11 a week in a trophy, 2x cup comps, 46 league games, I'd say at least four of them we'd have.

I give you Le Fondre. The others, not so clear cut. 

[Dunnfc]

2 minutes ago, gazsimm said:

They probably had a bigger squad then we have currently but quite a few of these players did not play for Bolton last season and they had quite a lot of loans.

A couple of loans will be in before the end of transfer window to bolster the squad as well.

How many have we got compared to them with senior FT experience? We need numbers, I'm sat next to a Bolton STH now he says he's not sure if viv otabor played whilst wilkinson is another back up player on the fringes. The rest played pretty regularly 

[AllRoverAsia]

1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Howe has said Mahoney will be with the under 23s next season. Be better off being loaned back to us. 

I hope there is a sell on clause in place as part of the tribunal 

Where does Howe say that?

I have looked around but can't find it. 

[K-Hod]

3 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Where does Howe say that?

I have looked around but can't find it. 

https://www.afcb.co.uk/news/under-21s/connor-mahoney-signs-for-afc-bournemouth

First paragraph- 'The 20-year-old, who has represented England at under-17 and under-18 level, has put pen to paper on a four-year deal at Vitality Stadium and will join the club’s under-23 squad.'

[Bigdoggsteel]

It is in a few articles I have seen , linked from twitter posts. 

[AllRoverAsia]

6 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

https://www.afcb.co.uk/news/under-21s/connor-mahoney-signs-for-afc-bournemouth

First paragraph- 'The 20-year-old, who has represented England at under-17 and under-18 level, has put pen to paper on a four-year deal at Vitality Stadium and will join the club’s under-23 squad.'

Thanks.

Is this a 'cunning plan' by Bournemouth to reduce the compensation or tribunal amount.

A 4 year contract to a 20 year old still development squad player seems a wee bit OTT.

Venky's will want top dollar so going to tribunal seems likely.

[Dunnfc]

Just now, AllRoverAsia said:

Thanks.

Is this a 'cunning plan' by Bournemouth to reduce the compensation or tribunal amount.

Venky's will want top dollar so going to tribunal seems likely.

Top dollar!? Dann 1.75 Nzonzi 3 cairney 2.75 Kalinic 6 Hanley 5 Rudy 5.5 and Duffy 3.75 wasn't our finest moments bar Phil Jones I'm struggling to see where we sold well. Possibly Rhodes.

[AllRoverAsia]

1 minute ago, Dunnfc said:

Top dollar!? Dann 1.75 Nzonzi 3 cairney 2.75 Kalinic 6 Hanley 5 Rudy 5.5 and Duffy 3.75 wasn't our finest moments bar Phil Jones I'm struggling to see where we sold well. Possibly Rhodes.

Venkys version of TD, and when compared to investment.

Hindsight is wonderful.

[Dunnfc]

3 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Venkys version of TD, and when compared to investment.

Hindsight is wonderful.

Who could forget Rochina 400k sold to Russia 18 months later for 10 million. 

[Bigdoggsteel]

29 minutes ago, Dunnfc said:

Top dollar!? Dann 1.75 Nzonzi 3 cairney 2.75 Kalinic 6 Hanley 5 Rudy 5.5 and Duffy 3.75 wasn't our finest moments bar Phil Jones I'm struggling to see where we sold well. Possibly Rhodes.

I thought Danns fee was very low at the time. N'Zonzi, Cairney and Kalinic look low in hindsight, but I don't think anyone was saying they were low at the time. You could say we got good prices, at the time, for Rudy and Hanley as they would arguably cost less now. 

Duffy, probably low too, but Coyles limp wristed approach to actually managing players and instilling discipline meant we had to get him out the door asap. 

[gazsimm]

10 minutes ago, Dunnfc said:

How many have we got compared to them with senior FT experience? We need numbers, I'm sat next to a Bolton STH now he says he's not sure if viv otabor played whilst wilkinson is another back up player on the fringes. The rest played pretty regularly 

They signed quite a few in the transfer market in January as well. Anyway Rovers squad at the moment if we don't sell anyone should be able to get out of league 1

[AllRoverAsia]

1 minute ago, Dunnfc said:

Who could forget Rochina 400k sold to Russia 18 months later for 10 million. 

Samba.....Ruples to Rupees, via Bradford ....

[G Somerset Rover]

Sky Sports understand the bids were £400k and £500k for Lenihan. 

Jog on!!! That's insulting.

[Dunnfc]

4 minutes ago, gazsimm said:

They signed quite a few in the transfer market in January as well. Anyway Rovers squad at the moment if we don't sell anyone should be able to get out of league 1

What happens if Graham's hip goes again on Charlie crocks his hammy again?