[Archived] Transfers Part 2

[roverandout]

2 hours ago, gazsimm said:

Rovers should walk this league if we can keep hold of the players we have got at the moment. It's a very poor league and the standard is poor. Get use to having sore necks next season because the ball is mostly going to be up in the air.

 

We said the same when we were relegated to the championship..what happened?

[Speedie Dived]

46 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Worrying that the LET article talks publicly about us having a valuation. Now there's no issue with that, but no doubt that will be hit just as the window is about to slam shut in true Venkys style. We need to keep him at all costs though IMO if we're serious about getting out of the league (up, not down that is).

Clubs don't bid either unless they have had the green light from the player/agent.

[gazsimm]

2 minutes ago, Dunnfc said:

What happens if Graham's hip goes again on Charlie crocks his hammy again?

fingers cross that won't happen. A couple of loans for back up would help though. 

[AllRoverAsia]

1 minute ago, Dunnfc said:

What happens if Graham's hip goes again on Charlie crocks his hammy again?

Something like 'There were 5 (left) on the Bench and a youngster said move over, move over. So they all moved over and one got Subbed so there were 4 on the Bench and a youngster said ......" you all know how it goes.

[gazsimm]

3 minutes ago, roverandout said:

We said the same when we were relegated to the championship..what happened?

hmmm did we? We had Steve kean in charge then I don't think I would off. Anyway League 1 is completely different to the championship. 

[Bigdoggsteel]

25 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Sky Sports understand the bids were £400k and £500k for Lenihan. 

Jog on!!! That's insulting.

Great, keep the ridiculous offers coming! 

22 minutes ago, roverandout said:

We said the same when we were relegated to the championship..what happened?

No we didn't. Not with Coco(ck) in charge 

[Dunnfc]

8 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Something like 'There were 5 (left) on the Bench and a youngster said move over, move over. So they all moved over and one got Subbed so there were 4 on the Bench and a youngster said ......" you all know how it goes.

Not to mention even the good players have form blips or struggle with a large run of games particularly as you age. You used to want two players in every position. To be number one you've to train like your number two. Without competition people become lax, it's human nature.

[RV Blue]

3 hours ago, Dunnfc said:

Nyambe wasn't decent, bar his pace I fail to see what he offers. Admittedly the gulf in quality at this level may give him a better platform to succeed but I thought he looked poor last year. Pre requisites for any fullback are to cross, position themselves correctly, cross and head a ball. He's got pace and needs to learn how to exploit that I.e over an overlap run but doesn't seem the most intelligent of players to realise hence he ponders and gets caught out at RB.

How many times did you see him play? Mot many by the sounds of it.

[Dunnfc]

Just now, RV Blue said:

How many times did you see him play? Mot many by the sounds of it.

Considering at least two or three other posters have suggested the same maybe it's time you considered that he might not be the player you yourself watch so candidly 

[AllRoverAsia]

4 minutes ago, Dunnfc said:

Not to mention even the good players have form blips or struggle with a large run of games particularly as you age. You used to want two players in every position. To be number one you've to train like your number two. Without competition people become lax, it's human nature.

I forget who but a few weeks ago I read a L1 experienced manager saying that in L1 you could 'make do' with a squad of 24 but no less. 

[RV Blue]

4 minutes ago, Dunnfc said:

Considering at least two or three other posters have suggested the same maybe it's time you considered that he might not be the player you yourself watch so candidly 

So I was right? Not many.

[Dunnfc]

3 minutes ago, RV Blue said:

So I was right? Not many.

I caught five games live at the ground and possibly 7-8 games live tv enough to decide of what I saw to say he's pish. Sometimes you can watch a player every week and become blinded (Rovers tinted glasses) but thanks for the articulated and well thought assumption .

Nixon suggesting striker should have come last week might happen this week chaddy asking if it's Ryan Seager from Southampton.

Sheff Utd views on Lenihan https://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/darragh-lenihan.56213/page-2

 

 

[Bigdoggsteel]

"Due to sign one last week. Still waiting."

The way he replies to people cryptically is tactical I reckon. If you have information Nicko spit it out. I bet he is basing that tweet soely off Mowbray saying we were going to sign more players. No substance at all, just implying dark arts or something dodgy with his replies. 

[RV Blue]

10 minutes ago, Dunnfc said:

I caught five games live at the ground and possibly 7-8 games live tv enough to decide of what I saw to say he's pish. Sometimes you can watch a player every week and become blinded (Rovers tinted glasses) but thanks for the articulated and well thought assumption .

Nixon suggesting striker should have come last week might happen this week chaddy asking if it's Ryan Seager from Southampton.

Sheff Utd views on Lenihan https://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/darragh-lenihan.56213/page-2

 

 

Have you hacked the Venky live stream? We weren't on TV 7-8 times in the whole of last season nevermind when Nyambe was playing. He's young and inconsistent but improved massively over the course of the season.

[Dunnfc]

3 minutes ago, RV Blue said:

Have you hacked the Venky live stream? We weren't on TV 7-8 times in the whole of last season nevermind when Nyambe was playing. He's young and inconsistent but improved massively over the course of the season.

No but you do realise certain games not shown in the UK are able to be streamed through bet365 accounts and from Norwegian channels don't you?

must have missed his improvement 

[RV Blue]

1 minute ago, Dunnfc said:

No but you do realise certain games not shown in the UK are able to be streamed through bet365 accounts and from Norwegian channels don't you?

must have missed his improvement 

There was one away game (Bristol City I think) that I was able to watch illegally last season and Nyambe wasn't playing then, so Bet365 must only show home games? Yes you did miss it because you didn't watch him play ?.

[J*B]

1 minute ago, RV Blue said:

There was one away game (Bristol City I think) that I was able to watch illegally last season and Nyambe wasn't playing then, so Bet365 must only show home games? Yes you did miss it because you didn't watch him play ?.

Wigan vs Rovers

Bristol vs Rovers

Blackburn vs Wolves

PNE vs Rovers

Rovers vs Newcastle

Rovers vs Man Utd

Rovers vs Wigan

Rovers vs Villa

Brentford vs Rovers

all available to watch last season.

[J*B]

So far:

Rovers vs Fleetwood

Rovers vs Rotherham 

 

Are available to stream next season without iFollow.

[Dunnfc]

1 minute ago, J*B said:

So far:

Rovers vs Fleetwood

Rovers vs Rotherham 

 

Are available to stream next season without iFollow.

I think my man has found an app to use via android to stream next year. Il DM you the details when he's sorted it for me. Burnley fan an all lol

[chaddyrovers]

3 hours ago, Dunnfc said:

Common sense chaddy or every team would flood there first team in this way wouldn't they.

You ease youngsters in gradually from both a confidence and match point of view. You don't blood a quantity of 5 in and then already have Nyambe and Wharton with less than 40 games between them as your main back up.

Youve heard of men against boys. 

where did I say flood the team with them all at the same time? cos I didn't. I said they could back up the first team up

3 hours ago, Dunnfc said:

Nyambe wasn't decent, bar his pace I fail to see what he offers. Admittedly the gulf in quality at this level may give him a better platform to succeed but I thought he looked poor last year. Pre requisites for any fullback are to cross, position themselves correctly, cross and head a ball. He's got pace and needs to learn how to exploit that I.e over an overlap run but doesn't seem the most intelligent of players to realise hence he ponders and gets caught out at RB.

Nyambe was decent and improved game by game. plus Under Mowbray his attacking play improved. Only going to improved by playing. much better than Henley and Lowe who played at right back last season. I watched most of his games last season whether it was live in the stadium or on the Rovers player

2 hours ago, david brent said:

Mahoney gone to Bournemouth. Compo yet to be agreed.

another massive mistake by him but its his choice and now it down to him to prove himself. good luck Connor

2 hours ago, Speedie Dived said:

Think you could be in for a shock. It's by no means easy.

Teams will defend deep against us at home, we will struggle to break them down and then people who expect us to walk the league will start moaning.

Yes Teams will defend deep but its down to us to break them down and signing players like Whittingham and Dack will only help into doing this

2 hours ago, Suhail Slayer said:

4 of those will get sold and 2 more incoming only.

 

As I have said all along.... 16 out and 6 in.

so far we have 12 out and 4 in

The kids you mention will all be involved this season.

 

so you keep saying but according to Mowbray he wants another 4 players in.

2 hours ago, Dunnfc said:

I thought Forest under Warbs and his ability to nurture was probably the best option. Wish the lad well though. 

I thought Barnsley would have been the right place. Heckingbottom is developing players there and doing a good job there

1 hour ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Sheff Utd have had a couple of bids turned down for Lenihan according to Pete O'Rourke from Sky Sports. 

A player must Mowbray must keep at the club. their bids are pathetic and he is worth much more

1 hour ago, Suhail Slayer said:

 

The Venky light (sponsored by WEC) has gone back to RED.

Cashflow drive to sell season tickets using fan euphoria at 4 signings is now over. Normal business is resumed.

Next will be the player sales, the staff redundancies and the other cuts as recommended by Deloitte & KPMG

 

To be honest, You said we wouldn't make the signings we had and none would be made in June. we signed 4. You also said that Elton John Concert wouldn't happened but it did.

1 hour ago, Dunnfc said:

BOLTON SQUAD This year, look at the numbers, look at the ages. No youth back up and around 26. I've omitted Chris Taylor and Jamie proctor as they only played half a season and ended up loaned out at the end. Under an embargo too where they even have to release a player before signing one. Comparing us with them is utter nonsense 

No.	Name	Pos.	Nationality	Place of birth	Age	Apps	Goals	Signed from	Date signed	Fee	End
Goalkeepers
13	Ben Alnwick	GK		Prudhoe	30	26	0	Peterborough United	31 August 2016	Free	2018
33	Mark Howard	GK		Southwark	30	29	0	Sheffield United	13 July 2016	Free	2018
Defenders
2	Lewis Buxton	RB		Newport	33	11	0	Rotherham United	5 August 2016	Free	2017
3	Dean Moxey	LB		Exeter	31	82	2	Crystal Palace	2 July 2014	Free	2017
4	Dorian Dervite	CB		Lille	28	83	1	Charlton Athletic	27 May 2014	Free	2017
5	Mark Beevers	CB		Barnsley	27	51	7	Millwall	3 July 2016	Free	2018
15	Derik Osede	CB		Madrid	24	51	0	Real Madrid	6 July 2015	Free	2018
20	Andrew Taylor	LB		Hartlepool	30	40	0	Wigan Athletic	10 August 2016	Loan	2017
23	Lawrie Wilson	RB		Collier Row	29	39	2	Charlton Athletic	5 August 2015	Free	2017
25	Reece Wabara	RB		Bromsgrove	25	1	0	Free Agent	15 February 2017	Free	2017
31	David Wheater	CB		Redcar	30	167	15	Middlesbrough	20 January 2011	Undisclosed	2017
Midfielders
6	Josh Vela	CM		Salford	23	132	12	Academy	20 March 2011	Trainee	2019
8	Jay Spearing	DM		Wallasey	28	173	10	Liverpool	9 August 2013	Undisclosed	2017
10	Jem Karacan	CM		Catford	28	5	1	Free Agent	11 March 2017	Free	2017
11	Viv Solomon-Otabor	LW		London	21	4	0	Birmingham City	31 January 2017	Loan	2017
16	Mark Davies	CM		Willenhall	29	208	16	Wolverhampton Wanderers	26 January 2009	Undisclosed	2017
17	Liam Trotter	CM		Ipswich	28	74	6	Millwall	1 July 2014	Free	2017
21	Darren Pratley	CM		Barking	32	168	15	Swansea City	1 July 2011	Free	2018
22	Filipe Morais	RW		Benavente	31	19	2	Bradford City	2 February 2017	Free	2017
24	James Henry	RW		Reading	27	35	2	Wolverhampton Wanderers	31 August 2016	Loan	2017
32	Tom Thorpe	CM		Manchester	24	25	1	Rotherham United	31 August 2016	Loan	2017
Forwards
12	Chris Long	CF		Huyton	22	10	1	Burnley	31 January 2017	Loan	2017
14	Gary Madine	CF		Gateshead	26	78	16	Sheffield Wednesday	8 June 2015	Free	2017
19	Max Clayton	CF		Crewe	22	30	2	Crewe Alexandra	18 September 2014	£300,000	2017
35	Conor Wilkinson	CF		Croydon	22	16	0	Millwall	2 July 2013	Undisclosed	2018
45	Adam Le Fondre	CF		Stockport	30	36	14	Cardiff City	31 January 2017	Loan	2017

6 of those players were signed on the last day of the transfer window or after the transfer window closes due to being out of contract. did they have other loan players at the club in the 1st part of the season?

 

 

1 hour ago, Dunnfc said:

Osede at RB, or Vela

mark Davies, jay spearing, James Henry the right winger, karacan. Trotter and pratley possibly. Lad next to me says morais 15 assists this year in less than a full season.

le fondre up top

dont forget they loaned Ben Amos to Cardiff 

cant expect to play same 11 a week in a trophy, 2x cup comps, 46 league games, I'd say at least four of them we'd have.

Trotter, Pratley, Spearing better than Whittingham, Smallwood and Evans? no chance.

Henry is decent.

32 minutes ago, Dunnfc said:

What happens if Graham's hip goes again on Charlie crocks his hammy again?

There is 5 weeks to the start of the season so can we calm down and just let Mowbray get on with the recruitment job. Some fans are panicking far too much.

5 minutes ago, Dunnfc said:

I caught five games live at the ground and possibly 7-8 games live tv enough to decide of what I saw to say he's pish. Sometimes you can watch a player every week and become blinded (Rovers tinted glasses) but thanks for the articulated and well thought assumption .

Nixon suggesting striker should have come last week might happen this week chaddy asking if it's Ryan Seager from Southampton.

Sheff Utd views on Lenihan https://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/darragh-lenihan.56213/page-2

 

 

Ryan Seager link came from a Rovers fan based in Southampton I think saying Southampton were looking to loan him to us.

On the striker who were meant to come in, it might not happened for many reasons But does Nixon really have the inside knowledge of Rovers targets this summer, out of 4 players we signed so far did he know about and break the story? Think it zero

[Dunnfc]

5 minutes ago, J*B said:

Wigan vs Rovers

Bristol vs Rovers

Blackburn vs Wolves

PNE vs Rovers

Rovers vs Newcastle

Rovers vs Man Utd

Rovers vs Wigan

Rovers vs Villa

Brentford vs Rovers

all available to watch last season.

Newcastle twice was on TV, 

[chaddyrovers]

8 minutes ago, J*B said:

So far:

Rovers vs Fleetwood

Rovers vs Rotherham 

 

Are available to stream next season without iFollow.

Rovers vs Fleetwood is live on Sky Sports

5 minutes ago, Dunnfc said:

I think my man has found an app to use via android to stream next year. Il DM you the details when he's sorted it for me. Burnley fan an all lol

I will be at those games so wont be needing these streams of games.

[Mike E]

Re: the 'youth' players at the club, I'll try and justify my faith in them.

Raya: Improved massively since his initial run in the team under Bowyer. 1st choice keeper for me.

Lenihan: Thought he did well last season WHEN placed alongside Mulgrew. With others, he showed himself to be the midfielder out of position. Very physical player, however, and feel he deserves to be given the chance to keep his starting spot even w/o Mulgrew after the drop in standard.

Wharton: Impressed me when trialled in the team by Coyle. Imo, definitely a bench option, possibly introduce to 1st team via cup games or just as the season progresses.

Nyambe: FAST. But needs to learn how to properly position himself at rb (good at tackling tbf, just needs to get in the right position). Again, drop in standard may help him, although I'd feel more comfortable if he was on the right wing with Bennett behind him at rb. 1st team (for now), minimum bench option.

Doyle: Potential bench option behind Williams. Been impressed with his U23 appearances, but unsure if ready to fully step up yet.

Tomlinson: Bench, potential 1st team in L1. Dominated the last time I saw him play (think it was pre-season) and surprised he hasn't been reintroduced.

Rankin-Constello: Potential, but unsure if ready to step up yet.

Mansell: Potential, but unsure if ready to step up yet.

I've bolded the players I'd have no qualms seeing start, italic-ed the ones who I wouldn't mind as bench options. The others, I either don't know enough about or don't feel they can step up yet.

[chaddyrovers]

5 minutes ago, Dunnfc said:

Newcastle twice was on TV, 

was at both games and somehow we kept a clean sheet in both games under Coyle. amazing that

[Dunnfc]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Rovers vs Fleetwood is live on Sky Sports

I will be at those games so wont be needing these streams of games.

I know you've said plenty of times. Given I'm working away allot and don't see this changing il need something for mid week games whilst I don't mind the hassle of 2 hrs lads beer making a mess of my place on a Saturday watching it on the telly as opposed to losing half my day at ewoodEwood