[Archived] Transfers Part 2

[The_Expert]

Just think if we really did have asset strippers at the club. Could they have done a worse or faster job?

Well, if not putting any of your own money in, syphoning off £340 million in 5 years and leaving the club somehow in debt for £105 million and with the smallest / poorest quality playing squad in living memory (I'm 50 by the way and can remember a loooonnng way back) isn't asset stripping, then I'm beggared to know what 'real asset stripping' might be....

[Stuart]

Well, if not putting any of your own money in, syphoning off £340 million in 5 years and leaving the club somehow in debt for £105 million and with the smallest / poorest quality playing squad in living memory (I'm 50 by the way and can remember a loooonnng way back) isn't asset stripping, then I'm beggared to know what 'real asset stripping' might be....

Honest?

[tomphil]

We may as well still be under embargo for all the good that it did us.

If an asset stripper had taken over the club they couldn't have scripted it better.

Get yourself under embargo, forcing you to sell most of your talented players to get out. Keeping only the player that would have caused serious unrest.

Then get out of embargo and bring in a credible manager on the back of false promises and get him to sell that player under the pretext that a proper manager could see the weaknesses and build a stronger team with the proceeds.

Then, when that player is sold, drip enough money to just cover wages for some January loans/freebies and let on that we will rebuild on the Summer.

Then stop talking to the manager forcing him to activate a mutual clause so that we don't owe him any compo.

Then bring in another YesMan who will take the money to carry on the day-to-day running of the club whilst being able to wax lyrical about normal football constraints and excuses.

Just think if we really did have asset strippers at the club. Could they have done a worse or faster job?

Hopefully it's a plan to bleed the assets out then maybe plonk us in admin next March when we might be all but down anyway. If they are paying off external debts then it really won't do us any good in the long run anyway because they'll waste it all again in no time and run it back up.

[chaddyrovers]

We need to get back to the old fashion 4-4-2. We don't have the technical ability throughout the team to win with that 4-5-1 tactic, and Graham can not be insololated.

Get Marshall back to right back. Evans and Byrne sitting in midfield. Play Feeney/Bennett right wing.

Greer and Duffy in centre Defense.

We badly need a left back and left winger!

Gallagher would signal a move towards that, bring on the lummox's and lamp the ball into the box.

I agree on playing 4-4-2 formation. I would prefer 4-3-3 but we don't have the players for it tbh.

I would play Feeney on the right wing, Byrne and Lenihan in centre midfield and Marshall left wing.

Stokes and Graham up front.

Lowe, Duffy, Greer and then a new signing at left back.

Are we still under the embargo?

No but its appears Venkys don't want to spend money on it and want us to be more self efficient

Tony Watt is looking very sharp for Hearts against Celtic - would have been a good player for us

Wanted to go back to Scotland and be closing to family I believe

[dallydally]

Agreed but Venkys won't allow it pal. Don't torture yourself.

Who is Dimi

[Stuart]

We need to get back to the old fashion 4-4-2. We don't have the technical ability throughout the team to win with that 4-5-1 tactic, and Graham can not be insololated.

Get Marshall back to right back. Evans and Byrne sitting in midfield. Play Feeney/Bennett right wing.

Greer and Duffy in centre Defense.

We badly need a left back and left winger!

Gallagher would signal a move towards that, bring on the lummox's and lamp the ball into the box.

Would be ironic to move to 4-4-2 to accommodate Graham's weaknesses when nobody thought we should need to do the same for Rhodes.

[savage90]

No but its appears Venkys don't want to spend money on it and want us to be more self efficient

Which everyone knows you can't be at this level right?

[booth]

No but its appears Venkys don't want to spend money on it and want us to be more self efficient

How many clubs are self sufficient?

If you can't afford it don't buy a football club, that's the golden rule really. They should have done the right thing and sold up when it all went wrong under Kean/Anderson.

[JHRover]

There's no point them being here if they aren't going to invest substantial money. Its not doing us any good and I can't begin to believe its doing them any good. There's no benefit to them of owning the club unless it gets to the Premier League. Even when we were in the Premier League they didn't do anything to suggest there was a plan to profit from it. Indian Academy? Major international sponsorships? Prestige friendlies? None.

If they don't have the money to bankroll a promotion push then its time to let go.

[bluefred]

They have done nowt but downsize the club since they took over

[AJW]

We need to get back to the old fashion 4-4-2. We don't have the technical ability throughout the team to win with that 4-5-1 tactic, and Graham can not be insololated.

Get Marshall back to right back. Evans and Byrne sitting in midfield. Play Feeney/Bennett right wing.

Greer and Duffy in centre Defense.

We badly need a left back and left winger!

Gallagher would signal a move towards that, bring on the lummox's and lamp the ball into the box.

right footed left back and right footed left winger yesterday

[chaddyrovers]

How many clubs are self sufficient?

If you can't afford it don't buy a football club, that's the golden rule really. They should have done the right thing and sold up when it all went wrong under Kean/Anderson.

Very true.

It looks like dont want to spend money or has much on the club and covering the debt.

[savage90]

They have done nowt but downsize the club since they took over

They have been a cancer from the moment they walked in and will continue to be until we liquidate.

When did we last hear their thoughts on our fall from grace and a plan for the future? That would be a more interesting story than Wes Brown using our facilities and Owen Coyle in the ticket office.

[MCMC1875]

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[Blue Cabbage]

Who is Dimi

The Priest out of the Exorcist.

Could do with him at the club to be honest.

I was referring to Dimi Papadapadoodaa who has been their very reliable / consistent no.1 for 2 years. However they have brought in Guzan and Valdes so can't see him starting many games this season.

[Iceman]

Yeah, we certainly killed off Rudy Gestede, Jordan Rhodes, Phil Jones, Chris Samba, Ryan Nelsen, Alan Shearer etc

Lol Samba? Nelsen? Shearer? Jones? Hahahaha.. Dude seriously, are we talking about the time we were a well run club, or currently, because im talking about our current circumstances. *sigh*

We may as well still be under embargo for all the good that it did us.

If an asset stripper had taken over the club they couldn't have scripted it better.

Get yourself under embargo, forcing you to sell most of your talented players to get out. Keeping only the player that would have caused serious unrest.

Then get out of embargo and bring in a credible manager on the back of false promises and get him to sell that player under the pretext that a proper manager could see the weaknesses and build a stronger team with the proceeds.

Then, when that player is sold, drip enough money to just cover wages for some January loans/freebies and let on that we will rebuild on the Summer.

Then stop talking to the manager forcing him to activate a mutual clause so that we don't owe him any compo.

Then bring in another YesMan who will take the money to carry on the day-to-day running of the club whilst being able to wax lyrical about normal football constraints and excuses.

Just think if we really did have asset strippers at the club. Could they have done a worse or faster job?

We might as well just get strippers into the club. You know, the one that takes off their clothes, we throw money at them, but at least we go home happy. Right now, we throw money at the asset strippers, and we go home sad.

Who is Dimi

Berbatov

[DE.]

The Priest out of the Exorcist.

Could do with him at the club to be honest.

I was referring to Dimi Papadapadoodaa who has been their very reliable / consistent no.1 for 2 years. However they have brought in Guzan and Valdes so can't see him starting many games this season.

Guzan is terrible, and Valdes can be pretty dodgy too. I'm not sure why they needed both.

[Stuart]

We might as well just get strippers into the club. You know, the one that takes off their clothes, we throw money at them, but at least we go home happy. Right now, we throw money at the asset strippers, and we go home sad.

You just made my post worthwhile!

[Tom]

Seems I actually had no clue who Gallagher was, thought he was a ginger lad I had seen for them.

[Iceman]

Seems I actually had no clue who Gallagher was, thought he was a ginger lad I had seen for them.

I was hoping Sam Gallagher was actually the black dude at Southampton, but then i found out it was Sadio Mane

[rovers11]

Sam Gallagher is a very talented player who I think has a big future. Went off the boil last season for obvious reasons, but he's a talented player.

Not that I think it will make much difference who we sign, we'll continue to drop like a stone while those jokers own the club.

[davulsukur]

I was hoping Sam Gallagher was actually the black dude at Southampton, but then i found out it was Sadio Mane

.............who plays for Liverpool

[Lancaster Rover]

Talking of strippers at Ewood, did my eyes deceive when I walked past the old Pub on the way to Ewood from Mill Hill looking like its becoming a lapdancing bar?

[tomphil]

We need someone who'll hit the ground running and I think Coyle said as much himself. Gambling on these loan kids coming into a struggling team is just more risk especially if they don't really fancy it.

Another Danny Graham style player on loan an we still desperately need some guile and leadership in the middle of the park as we've had a soft underbelly at Ewood probably since Nzonzi got shoved out. Akpan, Guthrie, etc etc all fairies and Lenihan still raw. I'm no big fan of Lowey but is he really any worse than Akpan in the middle ? Not so sure. just don't plonk him in front of the back 4.

[JHRover]

Loans loans loans. What's happened to the £7 million we received? £5.5 million for 'reluctantly' selling our captain and £1.5 million bonus for Rochina's sale and we're still shopping in the loan market.

Which basically means even if we manage to cobble together enough points to survive this season we'll end up in the same or worse situation in 12 months - going into another Championship season with next to no players, no quality, no depth, another huge turnover of playing staff, throwing a squad together in late August with other teams cast offs and youngsters. No stability, no base to build upon. Never ever going to be successful living on cycles of 6-12 months before starting again.

Loan players should be used to complement a squad of 21 or more and provide options in the short term. Not as a way of putting a squad together on the cheap without having to pay any fees and without having to offer a permanent contract.