[Archived] Transfers Part 2

[blueboy3333]

Doubtful it would have been having played the same games the team was notoriously porus under GB. Also any coincidence that Hanley caught everyone's eye last season under Lambert and became worth 5.5 million ? Season before under Bowyer he was awful.

Hanley was excellent from the 1st day of last season, long before Lambert turned up. More likely he wanted away so got himself fit last summer.

[tomphil]

Yes but he could not get the best out of Duffy. Hence the bad defensive record. Not to mention not addressing the full back issue.

I think Duffy will always be erratic he's just one of those players and he's behind Haney in terms of development despite similar age.

Can't argue about the full back issue although again Bowyer left us with no right back despite all the signings he was allowed to make. He did however leave us with 2 ok left backs one of which wanted a pay rise, didn't get it the was offed to Derby from under PL's nose. More cost slashing from V's has now left us with non

Hanley was excellent from the 1st day of last season, long before Lambert turned up. More likely he wanted away so got himself fit last summer.

He'd got himself fit and yes I think he was aware of interest but he was carved open a good few times again early season because the style Bowyer played always meant we got over run in midfield so easily.

Once PL had tightened it a bit and often forced other teams to go direct down the middle it suited the centre halves more imo.

[K-Hod]

There you go making it personal. Very few on here 'praise Bowyer and criticise Lambert'.

Nonsense. I've not made anything personal by mentioning anyone by name.

No, he had two top 10 finishes before that. They look like glory days now.

Should have been higher with the squad he had, but then, we all know that already. No excuse for the amount of late goals we shipped/points we dropped, or 'respecting the point' against Yeovil instead of having some mettle and trying to win. There was no glory about that day.

[Rover_Shaun]

So Nixon is considered to be a loon unless he's running down Lambert to the glee of the Bowyerista's?

Can we not just agree that all our post Big Sam managers have been utterly shi.te? Even the two that were given serious money to spend.

[eddy11d]

I thought GB was awful, but let's not rewrite history and pretend that Lambert was any better - he wasn't. Everything from the style of football he played to the results he got was as bad, if not worse, than Bowyer.

[punerover]

I thought GB was awful, but let's not rewrite history and pretend that Lambert was any better - he wasn't. Everything from the style of football he played to the results he got was as bad, if not worse, than Bowyer.

Ditto. Lambert was only marginally better than Bowyer. His January signings were particularly cringe worthy. I refuse to believe he was allowed to sign no name midfielders but could not find anyone better than Henley at RB and Spurr at LB.

[Gav]

Typical of this site Shaun, laughable really.

Hardly an opinion worth its salt on here these days, like goldfish, forgot what they said yesterday let alone a month or a year ago.

[blueboy3333]

Nonsense. I've not made anything personal by mentioning anyone by name.

Should have been higher with the squad he had, but then, we all know that already. No excuse for the amount of late goals we shipped/points we dropped, or 'respecting the point' against Yeovil instead of having some mettle and trying to win. There was no glory about that day.

You've tried the old 'divide and conquer' routine though. Lambertini's v Bowyerettes. Obvious who it was aimed at and all a bit schoolyard. Hopefully we can move past that kind of stuff for the good of the board.

We should have finished higher with a midfield of Willowe? It's not a great squad when they're your engine room. We also scored late goals under Bowyer. Boro and the Dingles game spring to mind.

The Yeovil game again!!? Lol. Try Bolton away, Hull at home, West Ham at home. All under Lamberts time here and truly gutless performances. The Hull and West ham games reminded me of Norwich at the weekend. The Bolton game was one of the worst performances i've ever seen from a Rovers team. Preston was pretty awful too, even if we were a man down. There were quite a few others.

[den]

I thought GB was awful, but let's not rewrite history and pretend that Lambert was any better - he wasn't. Everything from the style of football he played to the results he got was as bad, if not worse, than Bowyer.

In your opinion.

In my opinion we saw some of the best performances for quite a number of seasons under Lambert - and that with just one transfer window.

[K-Hod]

You've tried the old 'divide and conquer' routine though. Lambertini's v Bowyerettes. Obvious who it was aimed at and all a bit schoolyard. Hopefully we can move past that kind of stuff for the good of the board.

We should have finished higher with a midfield of Willowe? It's not a great squad when they're your engine room. We also scored late goals under Bowyer. Boro and the Dingles game spring to mind.

The Yeovil game again!!? Lol. Try Bolton away, Hull at home, West Ham at home. All under Lamberts time here and truly gutless performances. The Hull and West ham games reminded me of Norwich at the weekend. The Bolton game was one of the worst performances i've ever seen from a Rovers team. Preston was pretty awful too, even if we were a man down. There were quite a few others.

Your words not mine. I'm not getting into this again, it's been done to death.

[Rover_Shaun]

Anyhooooo...........FKW confirms he's interested in Sam Gallagher http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/14669823.Owen_Coyle_confirms_interest_in_Sam_Gallagher___and_backs_Blackburn_Rovers_to_bounce_back_from_opening_day_humbling/?ref=mac

Goes as far as saying that if he gets the 2 or 3 he's expressed interest in they may even be "good players to add to the squad".

Isn't that nice? He's a miracle man

[blueboy3333]

Typical of this site Shaun, laughable really.

Hardly an opinion worth its salt on here these days, like goldfish, forgot what they said yesterday let alone a month or a year ago.

Please be so kind as to impart your wisdom on us, oh great sage.

Anyhooooo...........FKW confirms he's interested in Sam Gallagher http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/14669823.Owen_Coyle_confirms_interest_in_Sam_Gallagher___and_backs_Blackburn_Rovers_to_bounce_back_from_opening_day_humbling/?ref=mac

Goes as far as saying that if he gets the 2 or 3 he's expressed interest in they may even be "good players to add to the squad".

Isn't that nice? He's a miracle man

Moses apparently.

[Gav]

Please be so kind as to impart your wisdom on us, oh great sage.

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Goldfish

[Rover_Shaun]

Moses apparently.

Tell me about if. Fancy targeting players who "may be good additions"

Surely that's a prerequisite?

[eddy11d]

In your opinion.

In my opinion we saw some of the best performances for quite a number of seasons under Lambert - and that with just one transfer window.

Really? I can remember that the Middlesbourgh home game being a decent performance (when they were going through the worst period of form in the season, they also got beat at Charlton) and we beat Brentford away, that's pretty much it. I can definitely remember one of the worst performances in our history against Bolton, getting rolled over by West Ham at Ewood, getting beat 2-0 by Huddersfield at home and getting outplayed by Leeds at Ewood.

[den]

Really? I can remember that the Middlesbourgh home game being a decent performance (when they were going through the worst period of form in the season, they also got beat at Charlton).

There were plenty more very good performances, but it's obvious from that comment you wouldn't accept any of them, so there's no point continuing.

[broadsword]

Entirely plausible, and just goes to show we all hear different things. What's great about your post is that you didn't resort to the usual 'you don't agree with my narrative so you've got an agenda'.

I would question why Lambert praised the owners when he left though, and why he stated that transfer funds were not part of his reason for quitting and that they hadn't been discussed. But then Lambert contradicted himself quite a few times. I certainly wouldn't call him a man of integrity. Just my opinion.

I think he was speaking with his tongue very much in his cheek when he left.

I think he said: "the club just needs a wee bit of help" or similar when he left. I assumed at the time that he was being sarcastic, and it seems I was right.

Bottom line is that Lambert was fighting an impossible battle, and so is Coyle. Personally, I believe that Lambert has a lot more about him than Coyle, but: it's irrelevant, the club is screwed, no-one could be successful now.

I Wonder what odds I could get on two successive relégations for Rovers?

[JHRover]

I think he was speaking with his tongue very much in his cheek when he left.

I think he said: "the club just needs a wee bit of help" or similar when he left. I assumed at the time that he was being sarcastic, and it seems I was right.

Bottom line is that Lambert was fighting an impossible battle, and so is Coyle. Personally, I believe that Lambert has a lot more about him than Coyle, but: it's irrelevant, the club is screwed, no-one could be successful now.

I Wonder what odds I could get on two successive relégations for Rovers?

When we go down to League One they'll probably do like they did when we entered the Championship and allow some reckless and unsustainable spending in some ill thought out and arrogant belief that's all that needs to be done to get promotion. So due to that our rate of decline will be much slower than the Blackpools and Portsmouths, but the end result will be the same.

[DE.]

Strange how we weren't allowed to judge Bowyer after three years, but judging Lambert after six months and a single, penniless transfer window is OK.

[blueboy3333]

I think he was speaking with his tongue very much in his cheek when he left.

I think he said: "the club just needs a wee bit of help" or similar when he left. I assumed at the time that he was being sarcastic, and it seems I was right.

Bottom line is that Lambert was fighting an impossible battle, and so is Coyle. Personally, I believe that Lambert has a lot more about him than Coyle, but: it's irrelevant, the club is screwed, no-one could be successful now.

I Wonder what odds I could get on two successive relégations for Rovers?

If he doesn't get a couple of good defenders in before the window closes it seems pretty much nailed on.

My only hope is that Norwich were just very very good, and we were just very poor on the day. Coyle has said as much today. I think, like me, he may just be grasping at straws.

[broadsword]

When we go down to League One they'll probably do like they did when we entered the Championship and allow some reckless and unsustainable spending in some ill thought out and arrogant belief that's all that needs to be done to get promotion. So due to that our rate of decline will be much slower than the Blackpools and Portsmouths, but the end result will be the same.

Can't see it myself.

I very much doubt there'll be any more significant transfer spending. As far as I can tell, the taps have been turned off.

I just hope that at some point, the club can be wrested back from Venky's, because if they keep hold of us, our decline may not end with relegation to League 2.

Possibly the straw that will break the camel's back would be trhe Bank of India calling in their loans when we go down to League 2. If I was them, I'd already be getting concerned about getting my money back, no matter what security has been used.

[blueboy3333]

Strange how we weren't allowed to judge Bowyer after three years, but judging Lambert after six months and a single, penniless transfer window is OK.

I think it was Fergie who said you should be able to judge a manager after ten games. I've judged Coyle after 1.

[DE.]

I think it was Fergie who said you should be able to judge a manager after ten games. I've judged Coyle after 1.

I judged him before a pre season ball was kicked - and I'm okay with that.

[broadsword]

If he doesn't get a couple of good defenders in before the window closes it seems pretty much nailed on.

Ideally, you want to get your summer signings in early July in time for the start of pre-season training. Especially as regards the back four. You want a first-choice back four to be well-drilled by the time the season starts.

We're playing catch-up already, well in fact we're not, we're just puttering along watching every other club slowly fade into the distance. I don't think it matters if we sign anyone now. We're stuffed already.

[JBiz]

Strange how we weren't allowed to judge Bowyer after three years, but judging Lambert after six months and a single, penniless transfer window is OK.

Equally strange that despite everyone being in agreement that this is the worst squad we've had in 30years, #coyleout reignited just 25 minutes into his first game....

He deserves time, because (whilst he would never have been the choice) he is our manager! It's also pretty stupid making him the victim when we are all convinced success is impossible with the Vs. Same goes with Cheston. The dickheads in Pune have held us back since minute they arrived.

One thing on the Lambert love on..(which I don't get)... Why does he command so much respect for walking?

He walked away from us when we needed him. I don't blame him, knowing some of the facts, but he didn't walk away for us or the club, he walked for himself. He could've tore the owners one proper in the press on the way out, instead he thanked them.

Who ultimately lost out because of this? Us! I have no respect for that decision because I want the best for us. I don't necessarily blame him for it either, many would but add that together with some really poor performances (the Bolfon away one was horrific, back to Keanesque disappointment that!)

Hence why others might not be so positive about Lambert. Given money and time I'dve thought he'd probably done well, but was that ever going to be the remit when the club has record high debt and record low revenue.