[Archived] 9.30Pm Tonight - New Social Media Hashtag

[Jock]

Coyle trying to bring in the 'I'm ex-burnley' excuse for our unrest. We must make it absolutely clear that we're targeting Venkys.

I wonder who advised him to say that?

[yoda]

I wonder who advised him to say that?

The same person who's empire is under threat

[JHRover]

'a team we think can be representative of Blackburn Rovers'. I always thought that was a very strange statement and one I've never heard from a new manager before.

Bottom. He must think we're the pits then.

I always thought his interview when he got the job was very odd for a new manager. His comments revolved around wanting to make the team 'competitive'. I'm not quite sure what that means, whether it means being in midtable or just not getting destroyed in every match, but it is still an unusual thing to say for a new manager. Whatever it means, it certainly hasn't been what we've had in the first two games.

I really do wonder what Coyle's remit is, or whether he even has one. If rumours are to be believed then someone other than Cheston appointed him. When asked for Coyle's target Cheston came out with some odd reply of bettering last year or possibly pushing for the play-offs.

Its all very odd and suspicious. The language Coyle has used since day 1 about wanting to compete and wanting to put a team out that is representative of Blackburn Rovers is actually meaningless drivel, I much prefer Lambert's language of wanting to aim for minimum of top 6 and nothing else is good enough.

[perthblue02]

Steve Kean mkII.

In so many ways, as was evident in his first presser, wee gem and all that

[yoda]

In so many ways, as was evident in his first presser, wee gem and all that

Another tit sucker would be my description.

Part of the same cancer that needs eradicating.

[CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber]

The same person who's empire is under threat

In my mind there is only one reason Coyle got the job - the vermin you mention above. And for it to happen so quickly only cements that opinion.

Allegedly. Better safe than sorry!

[PeteJD13]

Darkest hour before the dawn,

The RAF is coming

I actually agree with this sentiment, for once I can actually see some light at the end of the tunnel, or at worst the press shining a light into what has happened and some very awkward questions being asked that might force a sale

[Waggy76]

Coyle will do a Kean and deflect attention away from the owners , meanwhile drawing his inflated wage every month!

[yoda]

I actually agree with this sentiment, for once I can actually see some light at the end of the tunnel, or at worst the press shining a light into what has happened and some very awkward questions being asked that might force a sale

We need to get everyone thinking the same way.

Rover Air Force

Read it and weep Voldermort

[tomphil]

Was JW the chairman?

If he's handed anything out it's because he'd been told he had just the same as sacking Sam.

Jog on.

[Iceman]

Was JW the chairman?

Dude, JW was at the club still yes, but he might not have been there.

[blueboy3333]

I was being kind assuming you were naive but clearly you have an agenda.

Jog on Venkite.

Let's not be unpleasant. He just asked a question.

Here's a post (number 662) from Blue Kiwi in the Wigan thread:-

'Coyle was not the best candidate for the job,venkys are running the club into the ground,our Owen will be here till the job is done in relagation'

http://www.brfcc.com/mb/index.php/topic/31414-vs-wigan-away/page-34

Or post number 659 from the Wigan thread:-

'I met a guy on Friday who hails from Jersey and he was telling me some great stories about uncle Jack,how we need another Jack'.

http://www.brfcc.com/mb/index.php/topic/31414-vs-wigan-away/page-33

Doesn't sound like a 'Venkite' to me so there's no need to be rude & dismissive and tell him to 'jog on'.

[tomphil]

Coyle trying to bring in the 'I'm ex-burnley' excuse for our unrest. We must make it absolutely clear that we're targeting Venkys.

They were always going to go down that route once the unrest started, Holloway the gimp hinted at it on Saturday night.

IMO that is just another reason they got Coyle here and another reason Kean was both left to take the flak and happy to do it. A nice prepared distraction to cover over the continued dismantling of the club.

@#/? performances, Players forced into a corner then sold, bottom of the league and the ingrates shout Coyle out then he & his buddies spin it. Because I managed Burnley, never got given a chance say his media mates.

The con job continues, everything they do or have ever done is a put up job. Lambert to get Rhodes out the door, Bowyer to lead us into then through the embargo and calm the masses whilst the next crop of players got games and value in them and ripened. Sack him then pick the crop !

Difference is we are back to a guy who's party to it probably.

[JHRover]

Remarkable similarities to the process that occurred as soon as Venkys arrived.

Most valuable players sold for a major profit and the proceeds not reinvested.

Senior players marginalised and made to feel unwanted.

Ongoing contract renewal sagas for best players (replace Marshall for Hoilett). Expect in 6 months for it to emerge that there was never an offer on the table despite Coyle's claims.

Popular/capable manager removed/pushed out and replaced with unpopular/unworthy manager who will take the blame for the unfolding chaos and put up with the rubbish without complaint (replace Allardyce-Kean for Lambert-Coyle).

Previous board resign and are not replaced. Swap Williams for Shaw and Finn for Myers and its the same situation unfolding again. Cheston is the new Paul Hunt. In a job he probably would never have got anywhere else, probably well intentioned but completely out of the loop and utterly powerless.

Is this 2016 or 2011?

The cycle continues, the only real difference is we're a division lower, 10,000 fans down and £100 million in debt to show for it.

[MrT]

Those that requested emails should of got them by now. Sent out most off my phone - just got the bill 😳

#Venkysout. 🔵⚪️

[Gav]

Coyle trying to bring in the 'I'm ex-burnley' excuse for our unrest. We must make it absolutely clear that we're targeting Venkys.

I'm trying not to hang on to his every word because it's obvious his PR skills are right out of the same play book as King rat, but.....

He's clearly fanning the flames in the Telegraph that are already in the media, about us hating him because he's got connections to that lot down the road. If anything his stock went up when he left them in the sh1t actually.

'Owen you're getting grief because you're cr@p'

Sort it out of sod off.

[Iceman]

if anybody doesn't think these documents prove what a shambles of a club Venkys has turned us into, then think about this.

Salgado, and a few other players were left out because they would have been due an extension to their contracts and/or some sort of extra remuneration. We were told some stupid story as to why they were not being played, i think Nelsen was due to him being injured(much like Hanley), but then he signed for Spurs a few weeks later no injury in sight . Then when you read that agents received almost 2 million pounds on a 300k signing, then you have to ask questions as to how is it possible, that we couldn't offer key players better contracts, but could pay agents ridiculous amounts of money.

If you carefully scrutinize events in between all of these leaked documents, then you will realize certain key parts to this puzzle opening up. This was not just financial mis management as some people would say, this was clearly a case of certain people trying to squeeze their hand into the cookie jar, and grabbing something for themselves while they knew the club was in a vulnerable state, with owners who didnt know what they were doing.

The fact that John Williams and Tom Finn were ignored wasnt because of Venkys, it came from people who advised Venkys that its in their best interest to let them go as well. If you dive deeper down, under Williams and Finn, we were one of the best run clubs in the country, and as a matter of fact, anywhere around the world. Would John Williams and /or Finn have approved a deal, where an agent gets paid 1.65 mill on a 375 000 pound signing? the answer is no.

So dont treat this as just poor financial management, because if you carefully study the events that led to everybody being let go within a short period of time ie from Sam, to Williams and Finn, Silvester etc, then you will realise that something stinks badly, and somehow there was somebody who ensured that those obstacles within the club were quickly removed.

[philipl]

If someone can present it right they may just pick it up, ESPN or Fox. Nothing the Americans like more than to trash other countries sports to help their "best in the world" propaganda. If they can use it to big up the good old US of A they would run it. Corruption in soccer would be nice for them, I think.

The New York Times ran a piece on Venky's and Rovers.

[Mike Graham]

I just say this from a long term poster (2005) on the Official Rovers Messageboard:

"(11-08-2016 02:53 PM)mcflash Wrote:

I agree with what you are saying RTT but it's just that things are never going to improve under our current ownership. We are heading in the wrong direction and before it gets very, very bad we need to get rid of them.

Psychosomatic responded:

...and replace them with who? Who is beating down our door to take over and with the ability to invest the kind of money in one go we'd need to seriously improve the squad to compete? The owners have put in plenty of money and it hasnt worked, for various different reasons. The club has needed to adapt to the circumstances we are in and theyre right now to be prudent and to try to work with what we have, especially in terms of the youth set up. I dont see the owners as the problem at all, we just need to accept we are probably at our level now and need to work hard to get above that. Unfancied teams with no money have done it before and will do it again. Coyle did it at Burnley for one."

Psyco sounds barking to me.

.....and Sanj on the official MB says:

"We can't keep going over the same old rubbish. After been a fan (aka a SUPPORTER) for almost 30 years I'm utterly embarrassed by so many of our so called fans. I enjoy supporting us through thick and thin. If the last 3 years had been run exactly the same but by different owners, we wouldn't have a gripe in the world with them"

Goodness that made me laugh. What a wally.

[JHRover]

I just say this from a long term poster (2005) on the Official Rovers Messageboard:

"(11-08-2016 02:53 PM)mcflash Wrote:

I agree with what you are saying RTT but it's just that things are never going to improve under our current ownership. We are heading in the wrong direction and before it gets very, very bad we need to get rid of them.

Psychosomatic responded:

...and replace them with who? Who is beating down our door to take over and with the ability to invest the kind of money in one go we'd need to seriously improve the squad to compete? The owners have put in plenty of money and it hasnt worked, for various different reasons. The club has needed to adapt to the circumstances we are in and theyre right now to be prudent and to try to work with what we have, especially in terms of the youth set up. I dont see the owners as the problem at all, we just need to accept we are probably at our level now and need to work hard to get above that. Unfancied teams with no money have done it before and will do it again. Coyle did it at Burnley for one."

Psyco sounds barking to me.

and Sanj on the official MB says:

"We can't keep going over the same old rubbish. After been a fan (aka a SUPPORTER) for almost 30 years I'm utterly embarrassed by so many of our so called fans. I enjoy supporting us through thick and thin. If the last 3 years had been run exactly the same but by different owners, we wouldn't have a gripe in the world with them"

Goodness that made me laugh. What a wally.

Ah the old chestnut of us now 'being at our level'. That must be why we don't need a board of directors then.

[Iceman]

I just say this from a long term poster (2005) on the Official Rovers Messageboard:

"(11-08-2016 02:53 PM)mcflash Wrote:

I agree with what you are saying RTT but it's just that things are never going to improve under our current ownership. We are heading in the wrong direction and before it gets very, very bad we need to get rid of them.

Psychosomatic responded:

...and replace them with who? Who is beating down our door to take over and with the ability to invest the kind of money in one go we'd need to seriously improve the squad to compete? The owners have put in plenty of money and it hasnt worked, for various different reasons. The club has needed to adapt to the circumstances we are in and theyre right now to be prudent and to try to work with what we have, especially in terms of the youth set up. I dont see the owners as the problem at all, we just need to accept we are probably at our level now and need to work hard to get above that. Unfancied teams with no money have done it before and will do it again. Coyle did it at Burnley for one."

Psyco sounds barking to me.

i use to be on the official message board, before i got a lifetime ban by Grooby lol.. but reading those comments clearly show how bad that forum has become. Its disappointing to see some of the older posters who i know, that still seems as if Venkys are not the problem.

If you look at this post, im sorry, its one reason we are where we are as fans in a divided state. Sorry if this is a post from any poster thats on here, but im shocked.

when we look at the state of the club before Venky takeover it was in a much worse financial state of affairs to stay afloat was uncertain so we were told.

Without them we may have not been a club at all? Another accrington Stanley .

should we not give them a tiny bit of credit for being there when the club needed help?

yes I agree as a fan we need to be better but we are in a time when even bolton are struggling .

[Mike Graham]

It probably explains why the posting rate on that site is about 1 a day. Yes 1 a day.

[tomphil]

if anybody doesn't think these documents prove what a shambles of a club Venkys has turned us into, then think about this.

Salgado, and a few other players were left out because they would have been due an extension to their contracts and/or some sort of extra remuneration. We were told some stupid story as to why they were not being played, i think Nelsen was due to him being injured(much like Hanley), but then he signed for Spurs a few weeks later no injury in sight . Then when you read that agents received almost 2 million pounds on a 300k signing, then you have to ask questions as to how is it possible, that we couldn't offer key players better contracts, but could pay agents ridiculous amounts of money.

If you carefully scrutinize events in between all of these leaked documents, then you will realize certain key parts to this puzzle opening up. This was not just financial mis management as some people would say, this was clearly a case of certain people trying to squeeze their hand into the cookie jar, and grabbing something for themselves while they knew the club was in a vulnerable state, with owners who didnt know what they were doing.

The fact that John Williams and Tom Finn were ignored wasnt because of Venkys, it came from people who advised Venkys that its in their best interest to let them go as well. If you dive deeper down, under Williams and Finn, we were one of the best run clubs in the country, and as a matter of fact, anywhere around the world. Would John Williams and /or Finn have approved a deal, where an agent gets paid 1.65 mill on a 375 000 pound signing? the answer is no.

So dont treat this as just poor financial management, because if you carefully study the events that led to everybody being let go within a short period of time ie from Sam, to Williams and Finn, Silvester etc, then you will realise that something stinks badly, and somehow there was somebody who ensured that those obstacles within the club were quickly removed.

And those pushing the buttons make sure there is a constant regular turnover of managers & directors etc so they can keep doing what they want in the background and keep it covered over.

Not anymore !

[philipl]

Remarkable similarities to the process that occurred as soon as Venkys arrived.

Most valuable players sold for a major profit and the proceeds not reinvested.

Senior players marginalised and made to feel unwanted.

Ongoing contract renewal sagas for best players (replace Marshall for Hoilett). Expect in 6 months for it to emerge that there was never an offer on the table despite Coyle's claims.

Popular/capable manager removed/pushed out and replaced with unpopular/unworthy manager who will take the blame for the unfolding chaos and put up with the rubbish without complaint (replace Allardyce-Kean for Lambert-Coyle).

Previous board resign and are not replaced. Swap Williams for Shaw and Finn for Myers and its the same situation unfolding again. Cheston is the new Paul Hunt. In a job he probably would never have got anywhere else, probably well intentioned but completely out of the loop and utterly powerless.

Is this 2016 or 2011?

The cycle continues, the only real difference is we're a division lower, 10,000 fans down and £100 million in debt to show for it.

I am glad I am not the only person to notice the numerous similarities.

There are numerous "unusual" happenings surrounding his appointment too.

Suffice to say, Mr Cheston knew far less about it than some of this Message Board's Betes Noire.

Quite probably he knew absolutely nothing about it believing he had appointed Neil Warnock.

[47er]

Steve Kean mkII.

Just a matter of time before Coyle says that some fans "understand what we are trying to do here".