[Archived] Meeting With The Club - Brfcs Attendees ?

[Roverall]

Thanks for confirming my post.

Why of course, Mr. Chamberlain. Which fuzzy tale of the good old days will Sir be regaling us with this morning?

There's nothing like a cosy fireside story from Uncle Parson while the burglars plunder the house!

[Parsonblue]

Why of course, Mr. Chamberlain. Which fuzzy tale of the good old days will Sir be regaling us with this morning?

There's nothing like a cosy fireside story from Uncle Parson while the burglars plunder the house!

Glad you appreciate a cosy fireside story. Nothing better on a winter's evening.

[K-Hod]

No Neal, not spineless, simply that a good percentage of our fan base have a different opinion to yourself about things. As with all things in life people hold different opinions and different views.

A different opinion is fine, no issue with that.

I just don't get how people can carry on as normal when the club is being ravaged from top to bottom. Maybe it's just me.

[OJRovers]

Claims that the runnings of the club are no different now to how they were in Jacks day is a disgrace. To me that really shows Coar up for what he is.

Well done to Paul and Mark for their stance.

This can't just be let slide. That is a ridiculous statement and the LT should follow it up.

[ABBEY]

No Neal, not spineless, simply that a good percentage of our fan base have a different opinion to yourself about things. As with all things in life people hold different opinions and different views.

with R2C threatening to take fans to court and saying venkyscum are running it as well as Jack Walker does this not change your mind!

[JBiz]

A different opinion is fine, no issue with that.

I just don't get how people can carry on as normal when the club is being ravaged from top to bottom. Maybe it's just me.

Personally, I just don't get how people can walk away from something rather than keeping their voice and seat.

[MCMC1875]

The "Owners " statement now up on Rovers website, no mention of our exec director and man at the FA comments though or Keoyle's memory jog

http://www.rovers.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/blackburn-rovers-3337546.aspx

Who writes this rubbish?

#VenkysOut

[ABBEY]

Jees. It's simple . Not giving them a penny more and not condoning corruptness

Personally, I just don't get how people can walk away from something rather than keeping their voice and seat.

[Iceman]

@#/? off Coar, and if you want to take me to court thats fine. Just pay for my flight and accommodation. Disgusting fecker to comapare the running of the club now as same as in Uncle Jacks days. Who the hell does he think he is?

[JBiz]

Jees. It's simple . Not giving them a penny more and not condoning corruptness

If attendance is supporting or condoning the owners, we will never unite the fans in protest IMO

[47er]

My only gripe was someone shouting '@#/?' as they walked out - didn't do anybody any favours.

For me the most disappointing aspect of the evening was the 50% - 75% of fans there tonight who sat there in silence and didn't ask any question(s). Why go?

Who are these 50-75% of fans who sat there in silence? Anyone know them? How did they get there, who invited them?

Are they Rovers Fans? What group did they represent?

As for the person who shouted "dick-head" as he left, you've let us down there. Those people already think they are superior to the fans and you have reinforced their preconception of us as yobs and plebs. Utter contempt from a superior moral position is the way to get to these guys.

In that respect, why don't we conscript Marion next time(if there is one)! Some quiet and dignified intelligence reflects well on all of us.

[Jock]

@#/? off Coar, and if you want to take me to court thats fine. Just pay for my flight and accommodation. Disgusting fecker to comapare the running of the club now as same as in Uncle Jacks days. Who the hell does he think he is?

Maybe its what they teach them at Rossall School. I always thought these private schools had debating groups. Must be different at Rossall.

If they don't like what they hear its- ' i'll see you in court '

Karl Oyston, Robert Coar Old Rossallians.

[MCMC1875]

Its very easy to sit here in September and claim bids went in for players and the club was trying to spend money.

I can sit here now and say that I offered £10 million to buy the club but ultimately it was out of my price range.

Its meaningless, fictitious babble from the master of spin. Coyle has always had the gift of the gab and these sort of platforms enable him to take centre stage whilst deflecting the attention away from the real issues and perpetrators at the club. No doubt his ability to sell sand to the Arabs was one of the reasons he managed to get the job in the first place and one of the reasons they are keen to put him infront of the cameras at every opportunity to blag his way into people's good books.

Sounds to me like the whole thing was a waste of time, as expected.

No owners or representatives. Finally they admitted that Pasha is now on the payroll, which makes his absence tonight even more suspicious and strange. Why would he avoid meeting the fans so soon into his tenure? Something very odd going on there.

Finally some light has been shed on Coar's involvement. He clearly thinks all is well in the world. If he's not an employee and isn't involved in decision making I do wonder exactly what the point was of him being there tonight.

Cheston seems very keen to promote the work of the community trust and the academy, presumably because these are the only two areas of the club that haven't yet been completely decimated by his bosses because they are quite independent of Venky decision making. Perhaps he needs reminding that the purpose of this club is football. Not the community trust and not developing players, but winning football matches.

I look forward to the full broadcast but it seems they've succeeded in negotiating this minefield by producing a powerpoint and reading out a short statement that a 12 year old could have written and claiming it is from the owners.

Re-arranging the deckchairs on the Titanic

#VenkysOut

[Gav]

Without having to trawl back through the thread, I'm sure I read that the Telegraph was present, it'll be interesting to see if they report Coars threat in the paper, was the meeting minuted?

That seems the most newsworthy snippet from the evening, he can be quoted, it happened, and plenty of people can vouch for what he said.

If the Telegraph go with Chestons power point presentation we know where the local paper sits and its not behind the fans.

[ABBEY]

we already know where the venkygraph sits

[DE.]

Without having to trawl back through the thread, I'm sure I read that the Telegraph was present, it'll be interesting to see if they report Coars threat in the paper, was the meeting minuted?

That seems the most newsworthy snippet from the evening, he can be quoted, it happened, and plenty of people can vouch for what he said.

If the Telegraph go with Chestons power point presentation we know where the local paper sits and its not behind the fans.

Yeah, Wheelock was tweeting from the meeting and said a write-up would be in the paper this evening. Considering there was absolutely no mention of the BRFCAG walkout in his tweets, I'd say there's a good chance it won't be in the paper either.

[arbitro]

My only gripe was someone shouting '@#/?' as they walked out - didn't do anybody any favours.

For me the most disappointing aspect of the evening was the 50% - 75% of fans there tonight who sat there in silence and didn't ask any question(s). Why go?

That is quite surprising that people take the trouble to go and say nothing. I would guess that the 75% who said nothing is deemed by the likes of Cheston to be representative of supporters who are happy. I can see him putting a positive spin on that when reporting back to Pasha.

For the record do you have a list of who was there from each fan group?

[Gav]

we already know where the venkygraph sits

I know, but we live in hope that someone will actually see the benefit of backing its readership in a common cause.

Yeah, Wheelock was tweeting from the meeting and said a write-up would be in the paper this evening. Considering there was absolutely no mention of the BRFCAG walkout in his tweets, I'd say there's a good chance it won't be in the paper either.

I'm clutching at straws I know.

[MCMC1875]

Yeah, Wheelock was tweeting from the meeting and said a write-up would be in the paper this evening. Considering there was absolutely no mention of the BRFCAG walkout in his tweets, I'd say there's a good chance it won't be in the paper either.

But it's not an evening paper any more

[Lancaster Rover]

Jeez unbelievable! So if Coar is being pushed further away, and not being paid, then what the hell is he still doing at the club.

Also how can Cheston and Coyle not have spoken directly with Venkys? Cheston should in fact resign, if he has to talk to a puppet in Pasha 1st, before any decision gets made.

Wow just wow!

Coar is only here for self serving means, I'm not sure why anyone has ever thought any different.

[den]

Well done, complete amd utter disgrace that fella (Coar).

I'm strongly against further meetings, we've got the one answer we needed, it's time we focus on what we control and stop listening the words of liars.

Can't agree Neal.

What's needed now is for the views of the folk attending the meeting (brfcag, SteB etc) to get their comments into the LT. The club went straight to print after the game didn't it? Our side needs putting out there. If given the chance to do that, it needs an honest and accurate account of what they're trying to achieve with the club and how the club responds. And yes, if Coar threatened legal action and BRFCAG walked out - that needs saying as well. People on here are interested in last night's meeting, there's no way it was a waste of time. Same again in 6 months time for me. All beside other campaigns if the groups can get together on it.

[funny-old-game]

So what did we learn? Absolutely nothing...a complete waste of time as we all expected.

I was falling asleep after 10 minutes, whilst listening to Mike Cheston waffle on about the average age of the squad, the amount of people who use the community trust facilities, the wage to turnover ratio over the last 25 years, the length of service of the admin staff at the club....this is not what we came for and I couldn't help interrupt Mike and ask him "how long have you got left, this is not what we want to discuss", I informed him he was out of touch.

This was when it became blindingly obvious to everyone, especially those who hadn't already worked it out...the club expected a positive meeting, a chat over brew and biscuits.

I started by asking Rob Coar what he did and where he had been for the last six years. The Action Group has campaigned from day one for dialogue with the board...he's been the one constant yet I've never met the man. I still am not sure if he answered this or not...he just waffled and dodged. When Paul asked him if he felt as a club director and with his links on the FA council, had he done enough over the last six years and could he look Jack Walker in the eye if he walked in now....at which point Coar snapped and very angrily pointed a finger at Paul and said "I'll see you in court". We shall await another letter from Forbes.

Mike Cheston...when questioned about his claims that boycotting supporters were damaging the club by Andy Neil, stood by those claims. He sat silent at the tough questions because he doesn't know the answers. At one point because Owen Coyle didn't answer a question it went unanswered by anyone. That is our board.

Rob Coar went on to state that the way the club is run now is no different to they way it was run by Jack Walker. I pointed to the slight difference that a fantastic owner and a strong board has been replaced by incompetence.

At this point i told them both to hand their resignations in and let someone competent take their positions.

Owen Coyle came across very well. I asked him why he chose to lie in his press conference when he was asked "do you have links to SEM" and he replied "no". He denied this and said he was asked the question "do you have links to Jerome Anderson" and he stated he'd never met the bloke.

In my opinion the board of directors are not fit for purpose. We must end all communication with them, and we must make our feelings known to the world at the Wolves game next month. I would urge everyone to get on board and support the action taken at this game.

As for the statement on the website from the owners. I am not even going to bother with my thoughts on that.

This meeting was initially scheduled for the 5th October. It was brought forward a week to try and allow Suhail Pasha to attend...and he still didn't. That says it all in my opinion.

The time for talking ended a long time ago...tonight just confirmed that yet again.

I've mentioned it quite a few times on here recently that Coar is a nasty barsteward, but I believe he is the ONE we should be going after as he is the one constant at the club a FA council member with a lot to hide and a short temper.

[K-Hod]

I'll be honest, I think these meetings could be a useful tool in helping to turn up the heat on the club and letting those in charge (I use that phrase loosely) know how we feel. Keep turning the screw on them and carrying on with the campaign to remove the owners alongside it as well and we could well get somewhere.

Momentum was lost with 'WAR', but it can and will be regained. They can be worked alongside and we can crack on with the ultimate goal (Venky's Out), by hook or by crook.

[blueboy3333]

As this was arranged by the EFL I hope someone who was at the meeting last night will contact them about the comment made by Coar. It goes against everything they were trying to achieve with these supporter-focused get-togethers. The reps of the club were there to inform, not threaten legal action against those that turned up.

Again, manna from heaven for any protest movement aimed at owners and Board. I look forward to Coar's comment being condemned in the strongest possible terms by WAR (The trust). Coar's comment was not 'professional'. More realistically, as BRAG were the only ones to walk after Coar's revolting comment, I hope they and Glen Mullan can get together and start a proper protest movement that everyone can get behind.

Coar should no longer have any association with BRFC.

[booth]

What do we do ? Get a twitter trend going for 10 minutes. Goto India ? @#/? and moan on an internet forum ? Protest ?

Maybe its all pointless and we should just sit there going Rovers Rovers Ra Ra Ra. Theres a meme around about Arguing on the internet..

We need a viable alternative.

It all feels as desperate or pointless as throwing a couple of ice cubes into the fire as it burns your house down.