[Archived] Big Sam

[tomphil]

I just like the fact he is appearing to drink wine out of that pint glass.

Like I said old school

My mate drinks pints of cider and soda and it looks a bit like that though to be fair.

[Dunnfc]

The Telegraph began investigating corruption in English football last year after receiving information that specific managers, officials and agents were taking or receiving cash payments to secure player transfers. Over the coming days the Telegraph will detail how:

• The assistant manager of a high-profile football club accepted a £5,000 cash “bung”
  
• Ten managers were named by players’ agents as taking bribes to fix player transfers
  
• Two well-known managers discussed becoming ambassadors for the same fictitious firm as Sam Allardyce
  
• Another high-profile manager admitted his players broke FA rules by betting on their own games but he failed to report it
  
• A senior figure at a Premier League club helped undercover reporters to formulate a plan to bribe managers
  

[sambo]

The Telegraph began investigating corruption in English football last year after receiving information that specific managers, officials and agents were taking or receiving cash payments to secure player transfers. Over the coming days the Telegraph will detail how:

• The assistant manager of a high-profile football club accepted a £5,000 cash “bung”
• Ten managers were named by players’ agents as taking bribes to fix player transfers
• Two well-known managers discussed becoming ambassadors for the same fictitious firm as Sam Allardyce
• Another high-profile manager admitted his players broke FA rules by betting on their own games but he failed to report it
• A senior figure at a Premier League club helped undercover reporters to formulate a plan to bribe managers

Hopefully they name names.

[Gav]

The Telegraph began investigating corruption in English football last year after receiving information that specific managers, officials and agents were taking or receiving cash payments to secure player transfers. Over the coming days the Telegraph will detail how:

• The assistant manager of a high-profile football club accepted a £5,000 cash “bung”
• Ten managers were named by players’ agents as taking bribes to fix player transfers
• Two well-known managers discussed becoming ambassadors for the same fictitious firm as Sam Allardyce
• Another high-profile manager admitted his players broke FA rules by betting on their own games but he failed to report it
• A senior figure at a Premier League club helped undercover reporters to formulate a plan to bribe managers

Forgetting Allardyce for a minute we must hope that this is the start of investigations into corruption into the English game because you only need to scratch the surface to realise that some clubs are on very dodgy ground and I hope they look into Blackburn Rovers very carefully.

But with palms being laced with silver at all levels, the desire to investigate simply isn't their at the moment, maybe this will be the catalyst.

[Dunnfc]

Sam's HMRC claims: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/27/exclusive-sam-allardyce-claimed-hmrc-is-the-most-corrupt-busines/

[Rover_Shaun]

I'd want Pedro on my Jury

"As far as I see it Norman Bates is just a normal hotellier m'lud"

[1arC]

The Telegraph began investigating corruption in English football last year after receiving information that specific managers, officials and agents were taking or receiving cash payments to secure player transfers. Over the coming days the Telegraph will detail how:

• The assistant manager of a high-profile football club accepted a £5,000 cash “bung”
• Ten managers were named by players’ agents as taking bribes to fix player transfers
• Two well-known managers discussed becoming ambassadors for the same fictitious firm as Sam Allardyce
• Another high-profile manager admitted his players broke FA rules by betting on their own games but he failed to report it
• A senior figure at a Premier League club helped undercover reporters to formulate a plan to bribe managers

I think we all know it is pretty much rife and the guys who took the Rovers case to the Authorities, now have first hand experience of how the are prepared to just cover this up. Fair play to the Telegraph for bring this to the public domain, assuming they do and although the "sting" looks harsh on SA so be it.

[ABBEY]

I'd want Pedro on my Jury

"As far as I see it Norman Bates is just a normal hotellier m'lud"

And Fred west only built Harold ship and surgery

We could do with a fat Venky similar sting

[West Yorks Rover]

Football is just a microcosm of society, full of dodgy dealers, people evading paying tax, backhanders, cash only deals to avoid VAT, smart ass accountants and lawyers, and spivs whose greed makes them tempted by making money anyway, anyhow. Morally, football and the country as a whole are on their backsides.

There was a recent report that the UK was the 9th most corrupt country in the world, but when they added all the offshore islands, we came out

number one.

Yet very little was made of this in our national media, as far as I saw anyway, best to brush over these things eh.

[Pedro]

We led the lynching of Blatter and his cronies, rightly so as well, its a disgrace whats been happening in that organisation for years.

So we can't defend corruption and cronyism in our game can we? a tad hypocritical wouldn't you say

Their was a good reason why Allardyce never sued the BBC, after all he was so quick off the mark suing king rat.

Read between the lines.

Get him sacked, he's out of his depth anyway.

Who's we?

[1arC]

And Fred west only built Harold ship and surgery

We could do with a fat Venky similar sting

Who in turn was just carrying out his euthanasia duties, he learned in Switzerland.

[ABBEY]

Which venkys Zurich paid for ... guilty

[1arC]

Pasted below is a good article, by a reporter, who earlier today Tweeted that Allardyce, should not be sacked. Perhaps he said that, because the sting was not carried out by his publication!

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2009/jun/24/panorama-fa-bond-allegations

[Gav]

Who's we?

Greg Dyke, the English FA, Andrew Jennings BBC.

[Pedro]

Greg Dyke, the English FA, Andrew Jennings BBC.

Is Allardyce guilty of what Blatter has done? Jumping the gun a little don't you think?

[Gav]

Is Allardyce guilty of what Blatter has done? Jumping the gun a little don't you think?

I never said he was?

[ABBEY]

The Sampathisers are out in full force.

[1arC]

Is Allardyce guilty of what Blatter has done? Jumping the gun a little don't you think?

Did Allardyce sue the BBC for the Panorama programme? As someone has already pointed out, he was quick off the blocks attacking King Rat. This was settled out of court I think, but no such haste with the BBC. Read into that what you may!

[tomphil]

Problem is our enemies are the FA's friends so the cover up will continue. Also imo don't think it's much of a coincidence what happened in Zurich with the authorities and V's virtually disappearing from any contact with Rovers around the same time. Factor in SEM / Kentaro getting wound up as well.

Too many links for there not to be a trail leading to the same doors in some way. One day the whole house of cards will collapse.

[DE.]

Did Allardyce sue the BBC for the Panorama programme? As someone has already pointed out, he was quick off the blocks attacking King Rat. This was settled out of court I think, but no such haste with the BBC. Read into that what you may!

From what I remember, weren't the panorama investigation's findings pretty close to how Sam described earning money through agents in the recent sting?

[Pedro]

I never said he was?

You said we should sack him and we shouldn't be defending corruption and cronyism.

Obviously you are saying he is guilty Gav, come on.

[Pedro]

The Sampathisers are out in full force.

The spelling and punctuation police will be too.

[1arC]

From what I remember, weren't the panorama investigation's findings pretty close to how Sam described earning money through agents in the recent sting?

Yes I think you are correct.

[1arC]

Call me naïve, but given how much the top mangers in the premier league and the National Manager earn, perhaps a rule should be brought out, stopping them from earning elsewhere. Also an audit of their bank and financial transactions should be able to be made on demand. It is getting to the point where it is hard to trust the transfers in and out of clubs as being for the benefit of the clubs. Back handers appear to be the norm, not the exception.

A bit like the investigation into horse race fixing, where there is money there is greed and corruption. Simple things like Jockeys not being allowed mobile phones in their locker room, lead to bigger clamping down procedures. It is about time some tighter controls were brought into our National game, as it stinks to the high heavens of greed and corruption.

[Gav]

You said we should sack him and we shouldn't be defending corruption and cronyism.

Obviously you are saying he is guilty Gav, come on.

I'll explain it to you once again because you're struggling:

We as a nation can't be claiming to be 'holier than thou' when we lead the way perusing the likes of Sep Blatter and FIFA, and then have the current England manager caught on camera explaining how to break player transfer rules, split the agents cut from transfer fees and do nothing.