[Archived] The Telegraph Investigation

[pedebumchin]

I think this deserves its own topic. The story has moved on from Big Sam.

The latest is Cellino now being involved in bungs. As is Jimmy Floyd

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/28/exclusive-the-corruption-at-the-top-of-the-championship/

Surely it's only a matter of time before Venkys are implicated in this saga?

[47er]

Please God

[A cup of beans]

If there's a god.

[blueboy3333]

An important part of this story is that the FA are impotent. They are not fit for purpose as a governing body. Our only hope is that the police get involved:-

'The Telegraph has spoken to police and agreed to pass on relevant material. In an interview with this paper, Greg Clarke, the FA chairman, admitted it lacked the power to root out financial impropriety'

As for Wright:-

'He could have also created a conflict of interest between his job at Barnsley and the work he was agreeing to do for the Far East firm. Instead of finding the best possible players for Barnsley, Mr Wright could have been accused of putting the firm’s interests first by recommending their players over and above others.'

Sounds familiar

[ABBEY]

If for example the taxman or fraud chaps got involved how watertight are the NDA 's ?

[JHRover]

How would they implicate Venkys? All those caught out so far have foolishly met with undercover reporters and discussed things openly with the lure of a quick buck driving them on.

Nobody in the world has any idea where Venkys are or how to communicate with them. Our managers can't even speak to them, never mind undercover reporters. There's no way they are going to be caught red handed in this saga. The best we can hope for is some historical material emerging that implicates Kean and his cronies. They are more likely to have slipped up at some stage along the way, though the ringmaster of it all seems to have got this project watertight before getting it off the ground.

[Tom]

Be just our luck if this is all exposed and we aren't implicated in any way

[JHRover]

The FA, Football League and Premier League have said:

"English football takes the governance of the game extremely seriously with integrity being of paramount importance"

Don't laugh. They've actually said that. Funny that it doesn't seem to apply or be an issue when sinister people are wrecking proud clubs and destroying the communities they serve. Funny how when Portsmouth, Blackburn, Coventry and Leeds are getting wrecked nobody bats and eyelid but when the problems end up on their doorstep there's suddenly a major issue.

Notice how its taken the good work of journalists to unearth this problem. The FA would have sat on their backsides for the next ten years and not batted an eyelid if someone else hadn't gone out and given them a problem to deal with.

Not fit for purpose any of them. The irony being that a huge part of this relentless greed club is a direct outcome of the Premier League cash grab.

[tomphil]

We won't be implicated because our lot had it all stitched up in house so to speak with their own club. They didn't need to go with bribes and bungs they already had their own people in place and ways of moving brass about with above board pay off after pay offs and fees.

They knew what they were doing from the off and that's why they haven't been nailed plus I'd wager the likes of coco and tantric would soon turn squealer to save their own hides if the net closed on them.

We've been done over good and proper instead of fit and proper. Tax man or someone ending up guilty by association is the only hope I reckon. It should cause a few sleepless nights though.

[oldjamfan1]

We won't be implicated because our lot had it all stitched up in house so to speak with their own club. They didn't need to go with bribes and bungs they already had their own people in place and ways of moving brass about with above board pay off after pay offs and fees.

They knew what they were doing from the off and that's why they haven't been nailed plus I'd wager the likes of coco and tantric would soon turn squealer to save their own hides if the net closed on them.

We've been done over good and proper instead of fit and proper. Tax man or someone ending up guilty by association is the only hope I reckon. It should cause a few sleepless nights though.

Absolutely bang on the money (forgive the bad pun)

[donnermeat]

Cellino? Never!

[RevidgeBlue]

As regards the latest Telegraph allegations if this is the best they've got left then the story might start to fizzle out as JFH has already issued an extremely robust rebuttal to the allegations being made against him and whilst it is extremely unsavoury and somewhat sinister the Barnsley guy has done nothing illegal other than probably fail to declare receipt of the "bung" to the taxman.

Cellini (sp?) might be a bit more interesting.

[MGAndy]

Maybe The Trust has been trying the wrong tactics...

Offer advice on getting round the rules... in exchange for 20% of the club.

Done.

[davulsukur]

They knew what they were doing from the off and that's why they haven't been nailed plus I'd wager the likes of coco and tantric would soon turn squealer to save their own hides if the net closed on them.

Agree. I imagine K**n would sing like a canary in order to save his own snake skin.

I hope that someone has been onto the Telegraph with all the inside stuff they have on Venkys/K**n/SEM, even if it just adds pressure on the owners if nothing else.

[Waggy76]

When was the last time the owners , were in the UK ?

[MGAndy]

When was the last time the owners , were in the UK ?

http://www.dnaindia.com/pune/report-venky-s-hosts-the-queen-at-ewood-park-1984556

[TonyM]

The FA have always known about the issues Sam was discussing (bent agents, 3rd party ownership etc) and managers taking bungs - but it is something they never had the heart or will to want to get to grips with. Too many vested interests and old pals to protect.

Now they are at least going to have to have some sort of investigation and who knows what will come out - that is the real reason they were so upset with Sam.

[tomphil]

The FA have always known about the issues Sam was discussing (bent agents, 3rd party ownership etc) and managers taking bungs - but it is something they never had the heart or will to want to get to grips with. Too many vested interests and old pals to protect.

Now they are at least going to have to have some sort of investigation and who knows what will come out - that is the real reason they were so upset with Sam.

Absolutely spot on and the real reason they've sent him on his way with a million quid when I'm sure there were grounds to only give him a few hundred grand at most.

[booth]

Agree. I imagine K**n would sing like a canary in order to save his own snake skin.

I hope that someone has been onto the Telegraph with all the inside stuff they have on Venkys/K**n/SEM, even if it just adds pressure on the owners if nothing else.

Has anyone managed to get in touch with The Telegraph?

Those leaked documents show us as a prime example of a corrupt club.

[MCMC1875]

Has anyone managed to get in touch with The Telegraph?

Those leaked documents show us as a prime example of a corrupt club.

BRFCAG and Rovers Trust have both been in touch with the Daily Telegraph

[1arC]

BRFCAG and Rovers Trust have both been in touch with the Daily Telegraph

I am pretty sure Glen has too.

[Gav]

David Bernstein saying in the press that Allardyce shouldn't have been paid off for gross misconduct and the FA isn't capable of properly investigating explosive claims of widespread corruption.

This is the sort of thing fans want to hear, not cr@p like "Entrapment has won today"

[den]

David Bernstein saying in the press that Allardyce shouldn't have been paid off for gross misconduct and the FA isn't capable of properly investigating explosive claims of widespread corruption.

This is the sort of thing fans want to hear, not cr@p like "Entrapment has won today"

I doubt his case fell under the FA's gross misconduct rules Gav, but obviously I don't know what they are.

[Mike E]

I tweeted the Telegraph that article from 2011 when Givet was allegedly involved with a bung of some sort whire Sam was here.

I figure ANY connection with us may help.

[Al]

Whether you like it or not this was definitely entrapment by disguised reporters. If it had been the police they would not have been able to prosecute. It seems to me that Sam did nothing illegal anyway and it was certainly not gross misconduct.