[Archived] The Telegraph Investigation

[1arC]

Whether you like it or not this was definitely entrapment by disguised reporters. If it had been the police they would not have been able to prosecute. It seems to me that Sam did nothing illegal anyway and it was certainly not gross misconduct.

I agree that Sam had done nothing illegal during the recorded sting, but neither had Peter Sutcliffe when he was routinely stopped by the police in 1981. A full investigation can carried out, if something suspicious is going on, if the authorities can be bothered of course.

[tomphil]

http://www.dnaindia.com/pune/report-venky-s-hosts-the-queen-at-ewood-park-1984556

Absolute tossers ! I cannot put into words, even bad ones, how much I detest these rats.

The next time will be Elton John as it'll get publicity back home. The club might be all but dead by then though.

[Dunnfc]

Givet and Sam in the sun today https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/1874162/fa-took-on-sam-allardyce-despite-warnings-from-the-sun-over-his-links-to-an-alleged-50k-bung-in-2009/

[pk1875]

Has anyone managed to get in touch with The Telegraph?

Those leaked documents show us as a prime example of a corrupt club.

Yes the BRFCAG have a meeting with The Telegraph, so fingers crossed.

[glen9mullan]

BRFCAG and Rovers Trust have both been in touch with the Daily Telegraph

I have also made contact with the Telegraph,

However with all due respect to the trust, they have made zero contact with me, so how they aim to present something they know nothing about , without speaking to the source of the information is beyond comprehension.

I would of thought the first port of call would be to the person who actally knows the story?

[1arC]

Yes the BRFCAG have a meeting with The Telegraph, so fingers crossed.

That's very goo, when is that?

I have also made contact with the Telegraph,

However with all due respect to the trust, they have made zero contact with me, so how they aim to present something they know nothing about , without speaking to the source of the information is beyond comprehension.

I would of thought the first port of call would be to the person who actally knows the story?

Its imperative you attend this meeting Glen, can this be arranged?

[glen9mullan]

That's very goo, when is that?

Its imperative you attend this meeting Glen, can this be arranged?

The 5 leaked documents on their own is not enough, the other documents I leaked are useless without my involvement as all of them involve me. Whilst many of the other things I have presented through my blog are also relevant as I was there and the evidence can only be presented by someone who knows the facts and are not based on hear say .

This is why WAR cannot work as an investigation is useless without the facts and arsenal to back it up .

Papers have had the 5 leaked documents , this needs far more and people to go on record with the facts which I have been doing via the blog

[Athlete]

The 5 leaked documents on their own is not enough, the other documents I leaked are useless without my involvement as all of them involve me. Whilst many of the other things I have presented through my blog are also relevant as I was there and the evidence can only be presented by someone who knows the facts and are not based on hear say .

This is why WAR cannot work as an investigation is useless without the facts and arsenal to back it up .

Papers have had the 5 leaked documents , this needs far more and people to go on record with the facts which I have been doing via the blog

keep up the brilliant work Glen

[Gav]

I doubt his case fell under the FA's gross misconduct rules Gav, but obviously I don't know what they are.

Whether you like it or not this was definitely entrapment by disguised reporters. If it had been the police they would not have been able to prosecute. It seems to me that Sam did nothing illegal anyway and it was certainly not gross misconduct.

Allegedly he accused the FA of taking money, its been 'bleeped' out now on the original feed I heard, but if thats not gross misconduct I don't know what is, accusing your boss's of taking money under the table.

[1arC]

The 5 leaked documents on their own is not enough, the other documents I leaked are useless without my involvement as all of them involve me. Whilst many of the other things I have presented through my blog are also relevant as I was there and the evidence can only be presented by someone who knows the facts and are not based on hear say .

This is why WAR cannot work as an investigation is useless without the facts and arsenal to back it up .

Papers have had the 5 leaked documents , this needs far more and people to go on record with the facts which I have been doing via the blog

Come on guys at the action group, do not let this opportunity pass us by. We are all looking for the same outcome here, justice for the club and a cleansing. I implore you all get together with Glen and present this to the Telegraph the correct way. It might be our one and only opportunity PLEASE do not pass it up.

[Commondore]

Whether you like it or not this was definitely entrapment by disguised reporters. If it had been the police they would not have been able to prosecute. It seems to me that Sam did nothing illegal anyway and it was certainly not gross misconduct.

He's been caught with his hand in the cookie jar as a dodgy, greedy spiv. Seems fairly equivalent to "gross misconduct".

[ABBEY]

David Bernstein saying in the press that Allardyce shouldn't have been paid off for gross misconduct and the FA isn't capable of properly investigating explosive claims of widespread corruption.

This is the sort of thing fans want to hear, not cr@p like "Entrapment has won today"

[EgyptianPete]

I agree that Sam had done nothing illegal during the recorded sting, but neither had Peter Sutcliffe when he was routinely stopped by the police in 1981. A full investigation can carried out, if something suspicious is going on, if the authorities can be bothered of course.

Blooming eck Don't put Sam in the same pot as sutcliffe

[den]

Allegedly he accused the FA of taking money, its been 'bleeped' out now on the original feed I heard, but if thats not gross misconduct I don't know what is, accusing your boss's of taking money under the table.

Allegedly is the key word Gav.

[ABBEY]

Allegedly is the word about venkys and co as well. Can't have it both ways .

[Hasta]

Allegedly he accused the FA of taking money, its been 'bleeped' out now on the original feed I heard, but if thats not gross misconduct I don't know what is, accusing your boss's of taking money under the table.

But they didn't sack him, they paid him off (handsomely).

Does that not tell you that actually he was telling the truth? That they don't want this investigated because they are as crooked as Kentaro, Blatter and everyone else up the food chain in football.

They don't want to investigate claims of widespread corruption because they either know about it and have allowed it to happen, or have their fingers in the pie themselves.

If this is entrapment by The Telegraph just to get shut of Big Sam then it's cobblers as they are targeting high-profile figure to make a story. If they are really trying to expose corruption, and are prepared to get the whole system opened up and looked at, then I applaud them. However they need a hell of a lot more that Big Sam saying "third party ownership happens in football" and " Woy" .

[ada2020]

But they didn't sack him, they paid him off (handsomely).

Does that not tell you that actually he was telling the truth? That they don't want this investigated because they are as crooked as Kentaro, Blatter and everyone else up the food chain in football.

They don't want to investigate claims of widespread corruption because they either know about it and have allowed it to happen, or have their fingers in the pie themselves.

If this is entrapment by The Telegraph just to get shut of Big Sam then it's cobblers as they are targeting high-profile figure to make a story. If they are really trying to expose corruption, and are prepared to get the whole system opened up and looked at, then I applaud them. However they need a hell of a lot more that Big Sam saying "third party ownership happens in football" and " Woy" .

I,d say you're bang on the money with your the first line of the last paragraph, so far the only additional names dropped in this are a Barnsley coach no one had heard of outside of Barnsley before this morning and JFH at QPR which, while a big"ish" name, really isn't that incredible.

What I what to know is who are these premier league managers past and present that have accepted bungs.

Get those names on the pages, until that happens it's been nothing more than a targeted job to bring down SA.

[DE.]

They targeted Big Sam because he is the England manager (public figure, in the public interest, etc), has a big mouth and is rumoured to be bent as the proverbial nine bob note. If you're going to start somewhere, it might as well be there. You've got a pretty good chance of succeeding.

I'd love for the FA to be caught up in this, but not holding my breath. Thought the JFH reveal was really weak, and some bloke most people haven't even heard of taking £5k is hardly going to cause a massive shake up either. If that's as far as they got, they might as well have left it at Allardyce.

[Neil Weaver]

I have also made contact with the Telegraph,

Good to hear. The first thing that came to mind the other evening when the tale of Sam's exploits was reported was that Glen will have the best knowledge on how getting round third party ownership etc has affected Rovers over the past few years. For my very limited part, do all you can Glen (without legal consequences to you of course).

[OJRovers]

Yes the BRFCAG have a meeting with The Telegraph, so fingers crossed.

San Carlos is nice for lunch.

[alexanders]

Glen my man. This is Your chance to become a Rovers legend.

Wright from Barnsley just got fired. This thing will roll and take many more. Hopefully Venkys are a) finished or get Cold feet

[funny-old-game]

Glen my man. This is Your chance to become a Rovers legend.

Wright from Barnsley just got fired. This thing will roll and take many more. Hopefully Venkys are a) finished or get Cold feet

Correct, if this is kept on a roll then things could come out and maybe the government my have to intervene.

Also the WAR group have without doubt miss a trick in not keeping up the momentum gained around the time of the meeting which was a damp squid in IMO and all momentum lost.

[MCMC1875]

Yes the BRFCAG have a meeting with The Telegraph, so fingers crossed.

Get Glen to this meeting pk. It could be the last chance we have for justice/national publicity.

[Roverall]

Get Glen to this meeting Paul. It could be the last chance we have for action/national publicity.

I agree. Put the politics aside and go in there with all guns blazing. At this stage we really can't afford to lose such an opportunity.

[arbitro]

Agents and managers have been running rings around the FA now for years and there appears to have been a reluctance (for whatever reason) to investigate the problems thoroughly. Hopefully now the pressure brought on by the Telegraph articles will see a root and branch investigation not by some titled nobody but a dogged person experienced in investigating corruption. I would be delighted to see everybody who has benefited from this hung out to dry.

The beautiful game my ar$e.