[Archived] Coyle Out

[ABBEY]

Unless he has a relegation clause bonus.

[JHRover]

Steve Evans confirmed as the new manager as Mansfield. As much as I don't like the bloke I can't help but think that he'd have us in with a better chance of survival than Coyle.

[arbitro]

The truth is out! This could explain how Coyle got the job and is immovable as Krispy Kreme doughnuts are opening in Blackburn. Now I understand Chestons 'outstanding candidate' comment.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/14909709.FOOD_FIESTA__Burger_King__Krispy_Kreme_and_El_Taco_Loco_coming_to_Blackburn_town_centre/

[MCMC1875]

Coyle on Radio Lancs this morning - he wants to discuss a new contract with Ben Marshall! What a tool. There's not a cat in hells chance of it being signed.

[Jimmy612]

Coyle on Radio Lancs this morning - he wants to discuss a new contract with Ben Marshall! What a tool. There's not a cat in hells chance of it being signed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/14582385

5 years on and exactly the same drivel being spouted. Marshall will walk out of BRFC in 6 months time and straight into a mid-table Championship club with aspirations of a top 6 push. He's never kicked on quite as he should here - I really rated him before his daft injury on the Riverside touchline.

Problem with him is I can't sort out his best position. I appreciate he has done okay at right back, but I think he's talented and creative enough to be a real game changer in between midfield and attack. A bit like a poor man's Lallana if you like.

Anyway, as of June 2017 he won't be doing it at Ewood Park, that's for sure.

[JHRover]

Only a couple of weeks ago he was saying that the offer was with Marshall's agent and he was waiting for a yes or no answer as to whether he would be signing it. Now he wants to discuss a new contract with him? Shouldn't it be the other way round?

He's constantly stalling and buying himself more time. Trying to keep people hanging on for a few more weeks meanwhile our chances of survival get slimmer and slimmer. I think he knows that he's not going anywhere and he's not even coming up with even sensible attempts to keep the fans on side.

He must not realise that we've been through this and seen all this before. Its the exact same scenario as the Junior Hoilett situation. We all know that Marshall won't be staying, I don't think for one minute that the club/owners want him to stay and contrary to Coyle's lies they haven't made a serious improved offer to try and keep him. We'll find that out when Marshall's getting unveiled at Brighton or Fulham in January and he'll confirm that the club made no attempt to keep him. Coyle is dragging it on by the week in some naïve attempt to try and keep some small percentage of fans dangling. The only thing Cheston is interested in is whether they can get a couple of hundred grand in for him in January rather than lose him for nowt in the summer.

Marshall falls into the same boat here as the Cairney's and King's. Undoubted talent that many other Championship clubs would happily have in their squad who for a number of reasons hasn't lived up to his potential in recent times here. With a decent manager at a club that makes him feel wanted he'll push on to bigger and better things whilst we flounder and plummet to new depths. I'm convinced that one of the primary reasons for his poor form has been the behaviour of this club, which has made no serious attempt to keep him here and has happily pushed a number of quality players out the door and broken up what was a good squad a couple of years ago. Now we've ended up in this state with the court jester in the dugout.

[Jimmy612]

Just a brief timeline of events in both contract situations regarding Hoilett (2011/2012) and Marshall (2016/2017). I've already drawn a conclusion as to how this stupidity will end. We'll be relegated and Marshall will walk out of BRFC for absolutely nothing.

The only other possible outcome (and I believe it could be likely) - we'll sell him in January and Coyle will come out and say 'we did everything we could to keep him here but sometimes you have to admit defeat and do what's best for the club'.

A couple more hundred grand in the bank and us one step closer to oblivion.

Kean vs Hoilett 2011/2012

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-set-battle-over-david-1399864– Desperate to Stay – 30.5.2011

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/9243904.Blackburn_Rovers_boss_hopes_Hoilett_deal_will_be_done__in_days_/ - Done in Days - 10.09.2011

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/blackburn-hopeful-of-new-deal-for-junior-hoilett-2357136.html– Getting there very slowly. 19.9.2011

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/10/17/2715978/junior-hoilett-wants-to-sign-and-i-think-deal-is-close-blackburn- “I believe that we are even closer again," Kean told Sky Sports. "I know Junior wants to sign and I think everything is almost in place for him to put pen to paper on a very long contract. 17.10.2011

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/16443781 – Hoilett could be sold. 6.01.2012 - - "We've continued to keep dialogue with Junior. What we have to do is continue to be open and honest with Junior and say 'we want you to stay'.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/blackburn-rovers-junior-hoilett-could-3308387
Junior Hoilett could sign new contract insists Steve Kean – 16.02.2012

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2114807/Steve-Kean-wants-Junior-Hoilett-sign-new-Blackburn-deal.html - Determined to keep hold of Hoilett – 14.03.2012

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/steve-kean-concedes-junior-hoilett-likely-to-depart-blackburn-7580470.html– Hoilett likely to depart Blackburn concedes Steve Kean - 21.03.2012

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/jul/27/junior-hoilett-qpr-blackburn– Hoilett joins QPR - 27.07.2012

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Coyle vs Marshall 2016/2017

http://www.burytimes.co.uk/news/14620713.Blackburn_Rovers_boss_confirms_contracts_talks_planned_with_Ben_Marshall_and_Shane_Duffy___and_reiterates_stance_on_Grant_Hanley/
Contract talks planned – 15.07.2016

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/14686129.Shane_Duffy_and_Ben_Marshall_reject_Blackburn_Rovers__initial_contract_offers_____as_boss_pushes_for_first_paid_for_signing/
Rejected contract 17.08.2016

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/14720999._He_wants_to_stay____Owen_Coyle_confirms_fresh_contract_talks_for_Blackburn_Rovers_winger_Ben_Marshall/
He wants to Stay – 03.09.2016

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/14732219.Owen_Coyle__Talks_continuing_over_new_Blackburn_Rovers_contract_for_Ben_Marshall/
Talks continuing – 09.09.2016

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/14816101.Owen_Coyle_asks_Blackburn_Rovers_officials_to_chase_up_Ben_Marshall___s_agent_over_contract/?ref=mrb&lp=11
Asking BRFC officials (this comedy writes itself) to chase up with Marshall’s agents - 21.10.2016

http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/sport/14912818.Owen_Coyle_hopes_to_resolve_Ben_Marshall_s_Blackburn_Rovers_future_within_the_next_week/?commentSort=newest
Within the next week – 18.11.2016

[JHRover]

Just a brief timeline of events in both contract situations regarding Hoilett (2011/2012) and Marshall (2016/2017). I've already drawn a conclusion as to how this stupidity will end. We'll be relegated and Marshall will walk out of BRFC for absolutely nothing.

The only other possible outcome (and I believe it could be likely) - we'll sell him in January and Coyle will come out and say 'we did everything we could to keep him here but sometimes you have to admit defeat and do what's best for the club'.

A couple more hundred grand in the bank and us one step closer to oblivion.

Kean vs Hoilett 2011/2012

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-set-battle-over-david-1399864– Desperate to Stay – 30.5.2011

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/9243904.Blackburn_Rovers_boss_hopes_Hoilett_deal_will_be_done__in_days_/ - Done in Days - 10.09.2011

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/blackburn-hopeful-of-new-deal-for-junior-hoilett-2357136.html– Getting there very slowly. 19.9.2011

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/10/17/2715978/junior-hoilett-wants-to-sign-and-i-think-deal-is-close-blackburn- “I believe that we are even closer again," Kean told Sky Sports. "I know Junior wants to sign and I think everything is almost in place for him to put pen to paper on a very long contract. 17.10.2011

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/16443781 – Hoilett could be sold. 6.01.2012 - - "We've continued to keep dialogue with Junior. What we have to do is continue to be open and honest with Junior and say 'we want you to stay'.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/blackburn-rovers-junior-hoilett-could-3308387

Junior Hoilett could sign new contract insists Steve Kean – 16.02.2012

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2114807/Steve-Kean-wants-Junior-Hoilett-sign-new-Blackburn-deal.html - Determined to keep hold of Hoilett – 14.03.2012

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/steve-kean-concedes-junior-hoilett-likely-to-depart-blackburn-7580470.html– Hoilett likely to depart Blackburn concedes Steve Kean - 21.03.2012

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/jul/27/junior-hoilett-qpr-blackburn– Hoilett joins QPR - 27.07.2012

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Coyle vs Marshall 2016/2017

http://www.burytimes.co.uk/news/14620713.Blackburn_Rovers_boss_confirms_contracts_talks_planned_with_Ben_Marshall_and_Shane_Duffy___and_reiterates_stance_on_Grant_Hanley/

Contract talks planned – 15.07.2016

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/14686129.Shane_Duffy_and_Ben_Marshall_reject_Blackburn_Rovers__initial_contract_offers_____as_boss_pushes_for_first_paid_for_signing/

Rejected contract 17.08.2016

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/14720999._He_wants_to_stay____Owen_Coyle_confirms_fresh_contract_talks_for_Blackburn_Rovers_winger_Ben_Marshall/

He wants to Stay – 03.09.2016

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/14732219.Owen_Coyle__Talks_continuing_over_new_Blackburn_Rovers_contract_for_Ben_Marshall/

Talks continuing – 09.09.2016

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/14816101.Owen_Coyle_asks_Blackburn_Rovers_officials_to_chase_up_Ben_Marshall___s_agent_over_contract/?ref=mrb&lp=11

Asking BRFC officials (this comedy writes itself) to chase up with Marshall’s agents - 21.10.2016

http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/sport/14912818.Owen_Coyle_hopes_to_resolve_Ben_Marshall_s_Blackburn_Rovers_future_within_the_next_week/?commentSort=newest

Within the next week – 18.11.2016

Excellent work Jimmy.

One thing the club are very good at doing is shifting the blame onto the player(s) when they depart.

I used to buy this theory and accept that if a player wanted to leave that the club could only do what was the right thing and look to get a bad egg out asap and get as much money in the bank for him as possible. This theory applied in the days of Santa Cruz, Bellamy and Bentley. It was hard watching those players move on to rival clubs but I accepted that they had had their heads turned by clubs offering them significantly more cash and that for Rovers the best thing to do at that stage was to get rid and then reinvest the cash.

These days I don't accept the theory. I don't think Marshall has had his head turned or is desperate to leave the club, rather that this poisonous, crooked regime has created an environment so toxic that many players simply don't want to be involved with it anymore. We've got people operating behind the scenes, Pasha is one we know about, that have an agenda that doesn't tally with winning football matches and succeeding on the pitch. These people were responsible for offloading the likes of Salgado, Nelsen, Samba, Kalinic, Nzonzi, then the next batch of Cairney, King, Rhodes, then Duffy and Hanley. The owners and club make it clear these players are for sale to the highest bidder, that they aren't going to be given new contracts, that they are on their way out whilst trying to keep the fans in the dark as to what is going on.

Do I blame Marshall? Not one iota. I believe that if this club was run properly and had a footballing agenda that he would have been made a sensible offer and that he would have committed his long term future to the club. Just like Cairney would have done if there wasn't cash to be made off his quick sale to Fulham.

How can a player be expected to perform to his maximum when he knows that people within the organisation are lying and stringing them along whilst trying to sell them?

As ever the only people who will suffer are the Rovers fans. Venkys and associates will be happy. Another wage off the books, hopefully a few hundred grand in the bank and another signing to replace Marshall on a healthy signing on bonus and 2 year deal for a 30 odd year old. Coyle isn't bothered, he gets his wages and his only priority is to ensure the fans keep off his back. Coyle is the facilitator, as Kean was, as he will come out with this rubbish and string the fans along for months and months whilst the real business is done behind the scenes. Coyle won't complain, or kick up any sort of fuss, or resign, which is why he will survive like Kean did and why Bowyer had to go and why Lambert and Allardyce were never going to last.

[MCMC1875]

Excellent work Jimmy.

One thing the club are very good at doing is shifting the blame onto the player(s) when they depart.

I used to buy this theory and accept that if a player wanted to leave that the club could only do what was the right thing and look to get a bad egg out asap and get as much money in the bank for him as possible. This theory applied in the days of Santa Cruz, Bellamy and Bentley. It was hard watching those players move on to rival clubs but I accepted that they had had their heads turned by clubs offering them significantly more cash and that for Rovers the best thing to do at that stage was to get rid and then reinvest the cash.

These days I don't accept the theory. I don't think Marshall has had his head turned or is desperate to leave the club, rather that this poisonous, crooked regime has created an environment so toxic that many players simply don't want to be involved with it anymore. We've got people operating behind the scenes, Pasha is one we know about, that have an agenda that doesn't tally with winning football matches and succeeding on the pitch. These people were responsible for offloading the likes of Salgado, Nelsen, Samba, Kalinic, Nzonzi, then the next batch of Cairney, King, Rhodes, then Duffy and Hanley. The owners and club make it clear these players are for sale to the highest bidder, that they aren't going to be given new contracts, that they are on their way out whilst trying to keep the fans in the dark as to what is going on.

Do I blame Marshall? Not one iota. I believe that if this club was run properly and had a footballing agenda that he would have been made a sensible offer and that he would have committed his long term future to the club. Just like Cairney would have done if there wasn't cash to be made off his quick sale to Fulham.

How can a player be expected to perform to his maximum when he knows that people within the organisation are lying and stringing them along whilst trying to sell them?

As ever the only people who will suffer are the Rovers fans. Venkys and associates will be happy. Another wage off the books, hopefully a few hundred grand in the bank and another signing to replace Marshall on a healthy signing on bonus and 2 year deal for a 30 odd year old. Coyle isn't bothered, he gets his wages and his only priority is to ensure the fans keep off his back. Coyle is the facilitator, as Kean was, as he will come out with this rubbish and string the fans along for months and months whilst the real business is done behind the scenes. Coyle won't complain, or kick up any sort of fuss, or resign, which is why he will survive like Kean did and why Bowyer had to go and why Lambert and Allardyce were never going to last.

This type of comment needs posting in the Chaddygraph to enlighten some of the hordes who are still oblivious as to whats going on and backing Venkys.

[sambo]

The similarities between Kean/Hoilett and Coyle/Marshall were pointed out very early and it has continued, shown excellently by Jimmy612.

Coyle is a clown. He isn't the big picture etc, but his comments truly grate and are getting more bizarre by the week.

[tomphil]

Coyles a job to do which couldn't be done under Bowyer, was started under Lambert but he then refused to play ball. Quite simply it's continue the downscale off the better players being moved out and plug the gaps with cheaper whilst balancing it out with loans from clubs who are probably lending for almost nothing.

He gets to use all his contacts hence all the injury prone ageing under achievers he's loading onto the books whilst working with the clubs own hidden partners to oversee the outgoings. Ultimate yes man very grateful for the opportunity.

Everyone including himself probably will just be praying he can just thump his tub enough for us to stay up whilst all this goes on. They'll prob sack him a month or so after the transfer window shuts to do him a slight favour so he isn't the name who sealed relegation and he keeps a bit of pride in tact so he can get another gig.

[JHRover]

"We know we are putting the right platform in place that will serve the club well for years to come but in the short term we want to pick up points in the Championship" - a 'platform' that involves assembling a squad of 30 odd year olds who aren't fit, relying on loans from other clubs and not playing academy products to avoid paying them more.

"We all know how good the work is at the club from the youth up but ultimately you will be judged on how many points you get over the course of a season" - except at Blackburn Rovers, where it has been proven several times that managers are not judged on their results.

"Over the course of the season we won't be in a spot of bother" - ???? This is the season and we are in bother. Serious bother.

"We will soon get away from that and look to climb and look to build"

The bloke is a nutter. Completely and utterly clueless and deluded and with comments like these alone he should be sacked.

[gumboots]

I never read anything he says to the LT or the official site but if these are genuine quotes from him then he doesn't just need sacking, he needs help!

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Oh my! Coyle sounds worse than Kean.

Smoke 'n' Mirrors campaign in full throttle.

[sambo]

With Kean, his comments got me angry. With Coyle, they just make me shake my head and laugh at the stupidity of it all.

Blackburn Rovers (under Venky's) have a habit of numbing you to this sort of drivel.

[mustard]

How any self-respecting journalist can listen to the tripe he comes out with and not call him out on it is beyond me.

[chor808]

"We know we are putting the right platform in place that will serve the club well for years to come but in the short term we want to pick up points in the Championship" - a 'platform' that involves assembling a squad of 30 odd year olds who aren't fit, relying on loans from other clubs and not playing academy products to avoid paying them more.

"We all know how good the work is at the club from the youth up but ultimately you will be judged on how many points you get over the course of a season" - except at Blackburn Rovers, where it has been proven several times that managers are not judged on their results.

"Over the course of the season we won't be in a spot of bother" - ???? This is the season and we are in bother. Serious bother.

"We will soon get away from that and look to climb and look to build"

The bloke is a nutter. Completely and utterly clueless and deluded and with comments like these alone he should be sacked.

Foolishly I clicked over there for a read, what a load of tripe. The guy is either on a wind up or just unstable.

Decided to not bother going tomorrow, that will be about a month since I've been near the place. What a shambles we are in..

[A cup of beans]

As Gumboots, I avoid reading Coyle's comments, other than those posted for discussion here.

The fact the this imbecile was ever employed/ inflicted on our club is beyond any articulate discussion.

It's an outrage. And he's getting off far too lightly.

[tomphil]

Just what effing platform is he putting in place ? Half the squad is borrowed and he knows damn well he won't get the money to sign the one or two decent ones.

We were struggling to put a squad together a few weeks before the season began then had to scramble in loans and there is still no real balance to it. Top that with signing two 36 yr olds !!!

@#/? off clown pants.

[davulsukur]

"We know we are putting the right platform in place that will serve the club well for years to come but in the short term we want to pick up points in the Championship" - a 'platform' that involves assembling a squad of 30 odd year olds who aren't fit, relying on loans from other clubs and not playing academy products to avoid paying them more.

"We all know how good the work is at the club from the youth up but ultimately you will be judged on how many points you get over the course of a season" - except at Blackburn Rovers, where it has been proven several times that managers are not judged on their results.

"Over the course of the season we won't be in a spot of bother" - ???? This is the season and we are in bother. Serious bother.

"We will soon get away from that and look to climb and look to build"

The bloke is a nutter. Completely and utterly clueless and deluded and with comments like these alone he should be sacked.

Deluded stuff from Coyle.

He's just K**n in another skin.

[arbitro]

It is still a massive source of anger and frustration for me when he refers to Rovers as we. I will never accept him as the manager of my team or even as a part of the club, even if he was the bog cleaner. It is an insult to every one of us seeing him with a Rovers crest on him. Now if it was a Doberman Pincher on him that would be different.

[Leonard Venkhater]

It is still a massive source of anger and frustration for me when he refers to Rovers as we. I will never accept him as the manager of my team or even as a part of the club, even if he was the bog cleaner. It is an insult to every one of us seeing him with a Rovers crest on him. Now if it was a Doberman Pincher on him that would be different.

Hahaha..Anderson was referring to Rovers as "we" as well...

[47er]

Deluded stuff from Coyle.

He's just K**n in another skin.

Like Kean, he isn't speaking to us. His words are meant to reach India where they have not the discernment or interest to decode them.

[1arC]

I am pretty certain Coyle tries his est to just wind up the fans. The latest headline, quoting him in the Telegraph state "The future is right for Blackburn Rovers. When I saw that, I thought it had to be a story about some new floodlights, but it isn't.

[bob fleming]

"The future is bright for Blackburn Rovers".

Did he go onto say that he's resigning on Monday and that the club is up for sale? Otherwise it's just noise. A waste of time and paper.