[Archived] Coyle Out

[chaddyrovers]

Coyle should never have been appointed in the first place and wouldn't have been but for some highly dodgy dealing while Cheston was on holiday.

This of course explains why he won't be sacked and is secure in his position until we are in League 2 with Blackpool..

What went on When Cheston was on holiday?

Who was meant to appoint then?

[Lancaster Rover]

You know what went on Chaddy, we all do.

Someone was allegedly lined up to take over from the 4 that are widely known as being interviewed. Cheston went on holiday having signed off on that.

All of a sudden out of nowhere Coyle leaves the MLS club, odds get slashed and he's our gaffer. Cheston later admitting to not knowing about this, he then backtracked and said he was the standout candidate if memory serves.

This has been discussed over and over, don't pretend this is news.

[1arC]

You know what went on Chaddy, we all do.

Someone was allegedly lined up to take over from the 4 that are widely known as being interviewed. Cheston went on holiday having signed off on that.

All of a sudden out of nowhere Coyle leaves the MLS club, odds get slashed and he's our gaffer. Cheston later admitting to not knowing about this, he then backtracked and said he was the standout candidate if memory serves.

This has been discussed over and over, don't pretend this is news.

Well I never!

[rog of the rovers]

Rowett sacked!

If he wants the BRFC job then I'd get rid of Coyle in a heartbeat

[davulsukur]

Rowett sacked!

If he wants the BRFC job then I'd get rid of Coyle in a heartbeat

Coyle out, Rowett in!

And then we woke up

[1arC]

Rowett sacked!

If he wants the BRFC job then I'd get rid of Coyle in a heartbeat

Perhaps Coyle will apply for the Brum job. He was nominated for manager of the month in November after all and is a stand out candidate in some peoples eyes.

[chaddyrovers]

You know what went on Chaddy, we all do.

Someone was allegedly lined up to take over from the 4 that are widely known as being interviewed. Cheston went on holiday having signed off on that.

All of a sudden out of nowhere Coyle leaves the MLS club, odds get slashed and he's our gaffer. Cheston later admitting to not knowing about this, he then backtracked and said he was the standout candidate if memory serves.

This has been discussed over and over, don't pretend this is news.

I heard someone was lined up. I guess Warnock then.

Was looking a details tbh

[Stuart]

Don't forget the classic 'this club has been getting lower and lower every season' line. Except of course in 2013-14 and 2014-15 when Bowyer delivered noticeable improvement and top half finishes when he was allowed to be a football manager and sign players.

You seem to keep mentioning Bowyer recently. In my view, he also has to carry some responsibility for our position. Well out of his depth, wasted some major talent by making them play defensively when a competent manager rather than a trainee would have made the play-offs with that attack-minded squad. Gestede, King, Rhodes, Cairney, Marshall, Conway. What a Souness would have done with those. Makes you weep. A decent scout, yes. A Championship football manager? No. He cut his teeth at Rovers' expense and has put his experience into practise in League Two - when it should have been the other way around.

[Stuart]

Worth an update:

Coyle P24 W7 D5 L12 (29% win rate; 1.08 ppg)

Lambert P33 W12 D8 L13 (36% win rate; 1.33 ppg)

Bowyer P127 W44 D45 L38 (34% win rate; 1.39 ppg)

Appleton P15 W4 D5 L6 (27% win rate; 1.13 ppg)

Berg P10 W1 D3 L6 (10% win rate; 0.90 ppg)

Kean P73 W21 D15 L37 (29% win rate; 1.07 ppg)

Allardyce P90 W33 D23 L34 (37% win rate; 1.36 ppg)

Coyle is the pits. He's also on his worst performing streak of his own managerial career, and out of those Rovers managers given more that 20 games, he's officially a poor man's Kean. Oh, and he's just as unsackable. Wonder if Cheston gets his orders from the "owners", from the invisible Pasha, or via O.C.?

Those fans who petitioned for his sacking within hours looking more than a little justified these days.

[1arC]

Reading are currently 9/5 to beat us at Ewood on Saturday. Some people would suggest that the Bookies are rarely wrong, but that looks generous and they have Rovers favourites to win it.

[J*B]

Reading are currently 9/5 to beat us at Ewood on Saturday. Some people would suggest that the Bookies are rarely wrong, but that looks generous and they have Rovers favourites to win it.

Put your house on it.

[Jimmy612]

Rowett sacked!

If he wants the BRFC job then I'd get rid of Coyle in a heartbeat

If I was a Brum fan I'd be very concerned at this point. That decision doesn't look right any way you look at it - in fact it stinks.

An immediate replacement lined up.... I look forward to seeing just who that is.

Zola in at 1/8 for the job. Farcical

[4000Holes]

Coyle s latest utterance. "I know we can score goals but we are conceding too many". With wonderful insight like that, the man is obviously wasted in football management. He should be seconded to the government to lead Brexit negotiations.

In fact a message to government, please, please, take him.

[1arC]

Put your house on it.

I might just do that Josh.

[Jimmy612]

Coyle s latest utterance. "I know we can score goals but we are conceding too many". With wonderful insight like that, the man is obviously wasted in football management. He should be seconded to the government to lead Brexit negotiations.

In fact a message to government, please, please, take him.

The role probably doesn't pay anywhere near as much as those mugs do.

[JHRover]

You seem to keep mentioning Bowyer recently. In my view, he also has to carry some responsibility for our position. Well out of his depth, wasted some major talent by making them play defensively when a competent manager rather than a trainee would have made the play-offs with that attack-minded squad. Gestede, King, Rhodes, Cairney, Marshall, Conway. What a Souness would have done with those. Makes you weep. A decent scout, yes. A Championship football manager? No. He cut his teeth at Rovers' expense and has put his experience into practise in League Two - when it should have been the other way around.

I keep mentioning Bowyer because the decision to bin him in the manner we did becomes more and more suspect with each passing defeat. It irritates me to hell because we had a man running the show who was doing everything he could in difficult conditions, steering us through the embargo whilst keeping us clear of relegation trouble yet for reasons unknown he was sacked.

It is becoming more and more clear as the weeks go by that Bowyer wasn't sacked because we were struggling for results. If he was then how come Coyle is still here?

I completely accept that the squad he had at his disposal was capable of achieving more than it did. I'm not saying Bowyer was a successor to Mourinho but I still believe he did a good job.

The fact that we 'wasted' our best chance by appointing Bowyer and keeping him for 2 years wasn't Bowyer's fault. He took the job like anyone would if offered it and did the job to the best of his ability and in hindsight was able to deliver league positions that we are unlikely to reach again for a long time. It is the owners fault if we only had a window of 2 seasons to get promoted and they chose to put that in the hands of someone with no experience.

Would I have him back? Absolutely. The only manager we've had since Allardyce who has been able to work for these crooks to any degree of success, working wonders in terms of generating huge profits on player trading whilst keeping the club above water. Most importantly he was someone who was honest and trustworthy who I could respect and have pride in what he was trying to achieve.

If I was a Brum fan I'd be very concerned at this point. That decision doesn't look right any way you look at it - in fact it stinks.

An immediate replacement lined up.... I look forward to seeing just who that is.

Zola in at 1/8 for the job. Farcical

Reading the statement on Birmingham's website it sounds very similar to the comments Venkys/friends made when they took over Rovers and binned Allardyce.

'New owners remain determined to lead the club into a bright and exciting future'

'Decision taken with a long term view and best interests at heart'

'Trust our judgment and embrace the future as we begin to implement the exciting vision'

That could be Rovers 2010 with Venkys and partners making the announcement.

Birmingham fans should be very worried.

[JBiz]

If brum sacked rowett, a decent director would be all over that in our predicament

Saved brum and propped them up with nothing - perfect job experience!

[Iceman]

Only club in all the leagues, whose results are so bad, whereby they should be sacking the manager, but dont. Corrupt set of Indian @#/?s

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[Stuart]

I keep mentioning Bowyer because the decision to bin him in the manner we did becomes more and more suspect with each passing defeat. It irritates me to hell because we had a man running the show who was doing everything he could in difficult conditions, steering us through the embargo whilst keeping us clear of relegation trouble yet for reasons unknown he was sacked.

It is becoming more and more clear as the weeks go by that Bowyer wasn't sacked because we were struggling for results. If he was then how come Coyle is still here?

I completely accept that the squad he had at his disposal was capable of achieving more than it did. I'm not saying Bowyer was a successor to Mourinho but I still believe he did a good job.

The fact that we 'wasted' our best chance by appointing Bowyer and keeping him for 2 years wasn't Bowyer's fault. He took the job like anyone would if offered it and did the job to the best of his ability and in hindsight was able to deliver league positions that we are unlikely to reach again for a long time. It is the owners fault if we only had a window of 2 seasons to get promoted and they chose to put that in the hands of someone with no experience.

Would I have him back? Absolutely. The only manager we've had since Allardyce who has been able to work for these crooks to any degree of success, working wonders in terms of generating huge profits on player trading whilst keeping the club above water. Most importantly he was someone who was honest and trustworthy who I could respect and have pride in what he was trying to achieve.

Fair enough mate. I wouldn't have him even now. It would be another backward step in my view.

For all his honesty, he still allowed Venkys to sell half of the team under him and put up with it, even trying to quieten the fans down.

It's really hard to see anything good in Rovers' future right now. I'd take Rowett in a heartbeat over Coyle but there is no chance that we are even contemplating a change. Too many 'nice' guys happy, nay amazed, to be in a manager's role (Kean, Bowyer, Coyle) and not enough proper man-managers even in the frame.

I find it amazing the rumour that a Warnock deal was all but done and suddenly everything changed at the last minute. Warnock does not fit the M.O. at all. They seemed to think they could mess Lambert about - that certainly wouldn't be the case with "Colin".

[savage90]

He will not be fired, whoever made the decision to employ him was prepared for this. That's how lousy an appointment it was.

Rotten club.

[tomphil]

I heard someone was lined up. I guess Warnock then.

Was looking a details tbh

From what i heard Cheston was preferring the UTD fella who's now at Wigan because they wanted to blood about 6 youth teamers this season to save money. He'd been offered the job for sure.

Balaji and his partners/advisers/leaches will be behind the Coyle appointment and at 30-1 you can bet on it !

[Lancaster Rover]

I believed it to be Joyce who was to be unveiled.

[JHRover]

Fair enough mate. I wouldn't have him even now. It would be another backward step in my view.

For all his honesty, he still allowed Venkys to sell half of the team under him and put up with it, even trying to quieten the fans down.

It's really hard to see anything good in Rovers' future right now. I'd take Rowett in a heartbeat over Coyle but there is no chance that we are even contemplating a change. Too many 'nice' guys happy, nay amazed, to be in a manager's role (Kean, Bowyer, Coyle) and not enough proper man-managers even in the frame.

I find it amazing the rumour that a Warnock deal was all but done and suddenly everything changed at the last minute. Warnock does not fit the M.O. at all. They seemed to think they could mess Lambert about - that certainly wouldn't be the case with "Colin".

He wouldn't be my first choice, but if someone offered me Bowyer back today over Coyle I'd snap their hand off.

I've heard the same story that Warnock met with them several times, wanted the job, even agreed terms and a budget, only for 'them' to pull out at the last minute and hand the job to Coyle as he was offering to do it for less. It's beyond a sick joke and the real salt in the wounds is that he's going to keep Cardiff up, probably at our expense.

The most frustrating thing is that we all know deep down that Coyle's position isn't even being considered. We can talk all day long about the obvious solution of Rowett or Davies.

There's two hurdles to overcome. First they have to sack Coyle, then they have to appoint a better replacement. There's no reason to think they've any intention of even considering Coyle's position, never mind appointing a decent replacement, all the while the solutions are staring us in the face.

It's so depressing, and yet 99% of the fanbase saw this coming back in June when he inexplicably got the job over better candidates. The only people who couldn't or wouldn't see the warning signs were those who gave him the job.

[jim mk2]

I keep mentioning Bowyer because the decision to bin him in the manner we did becomes more and more suspect with each passing defeat. It irritates me to hell because we had a man running the show who was doing everything he could in difficult conditions, steering us through the embargo whilst keeping us clear of relegation trouble yet for reasons unknown he was sacked.

It is becoming more and more clear as the weeks go by that Bowyer wasn't sacked because we were struggling for results. If he was then how come Coyle is still here?

We were sinking under Bowyer towards the end - the team were playing poorly, results were getting steadily worse and we were sliding down the table. I remember a very poor 3-0 degfeat at MK Dons and we all agreed that if Bowyer stayed we would go down. Bowyer had done a very good job but his time was up and he had to go.

[tomphil]

The Reading game will be Coyles 1 in 5 turn up and win comfortably to keep the dogs off his back.