[Archived] Blackburn

[chor808]

Should be in the other section I suppose but a sad tale. Really sad is the line about the younger generation being the least tolerant.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4003670/On-line-segregation-UK-NEIL-TWEEDIE-visits-Blackburn-dominated-hilltop-mosques-afflicted-worrying-levels-division.html

[Al]

Should be in the other section I suppose but a sad tale. Really sad is the line about the younger generation being the least tolerant.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4003670/On-line-segregation-UK-NEIL-TWEEDIE-visits-Blackburn-dominated-hilltop-mosques-afflicted-worrying-levels-division.html

Why should they be tolerant when they see the town they were born in turned into a suburb of Bangladesh?

[oldjamfan1]

Why should they be tolerant when they see the town they were born in turned into a suburb of Bangladesh?

Think he means the Muslim youth Al.

[chor808]

Why should they be tolerant when they see the town they were born in turned into a suburb of Bangladesh?

The way I read it it is the Asian young people that are being highlighed as intolerant.

'They [Asian families] can be absolutely fine, but you sometimes feel they don't really want to mix with you. They are a very segregated community.

'Sometimes, you get a look that says 'Why are you here?' They don't get white people who want to live here.

'The younger generation are more intolerant than the older people.'

[ABBEY]

Jizzle won't like this thread neither will the cup o'tea brigade .

There was an interview last night on tv and they interviewed a Muslim who was saying how tolerant and peaceful they were . He then went on to say if anyonyone wanted trouble they would get it off them , it was so arrogent even the mum in law commented on his last bit .

[Hanks]

Why should they be tolerant when they see the town they were born in turned into a suburb of Bangladesh?

Why Bangladesh? they make up 0.3% of the population in Blackburn :-http://localstats.co.uk/census-demographics/england/north-west/blackburn-with-darwen

[tomphil]

That's the whole borough of Blackburn with Darwen so i bet looking just at Blackburn itself is more eye opening.

Secondly who are these Jedi Knights ? We need them leading the Venkys out charge

[Hanks]

Secondly who are these Jedi Knights ? We need them leading the Venkys out charge

And the 14 people who believed in Heavy Metal

[JBiz]

Jizzle won't like this thread neither will the cup o'tea brigade .

There was an interview last night on tv and they interviewed a Muslim who was saying how tolerant and peaceful they were . He then went on to say if anyonyone wanted trouble they would get it off them , it was so arrogent even the mum in law commented on his last bit .

Cup of tea brigade?

Thought it was a good article ABABY, especially for the daily mail. Strangely - the only real quotes I though made sense where from the only Asian interviewed, talking about how many move away due to unfounded fears-

Which is exactly what I believe, the intolerance of other culture, buildings, clothing etc- it's all down to fear. People say that they don't like how Blackburn had changed - but 150,000 Asian people live in the town and with that comes cultural difference. Funnily enough, it's never the cheap taxis or delivered food, it's the minarets and burkas that people cannot tolerate. Those who cannot accept that, move away and lament the change - baseline example of some lack of tolerance for anything not within their own culture. I can understand how people are frustrated by the way things change - but the rationale needs to be examined - why do families and cultures want to live together? Why are churches replaced by mosques? Why do people wear different clothes?

Would I feel more in danger walking through Baswell at night than Mill Hill? I think it would be a similar fear to be honest but that's got nothing to do with being part of a "cup of tea brigade", it's about realising that there is a percentage of ALL cultures, race, religion etc who are just basically scumbags.

[Al]

Why Bangladesh? they make up 0.3% of the population in Blackburn :-http://localstats.co.uk/census-demographics/england/north-west/blackburn-with-darwen

You know damned well that I meant the Muslim part of the Indian Sub Continent in general. Bangladesh was just a generalisation.Sometimes people challenge posts for the sake of causing an argument. Those stats are skewed anyway. A lot of Muslims are included in the ones born in England.

[Mattyblue]

Just as a note, Blackburn is a touch over 100,000 people. Darwen and other rural areas makes up the rest of the 145,000 strong borough and these areas are 99% white.

Therefore Blackburn itself has gone from 0% to not far off 50% Muslim in two generations, by any measure that is vast demographic change, particulary with the mass 'white fight' that has taken place in the town's suburbs (the Cherry Tree/Feni/Livesey areas aside) this past 15 years.

Most urban areas in the UK have ethic minority communities, but numbers remain fairly stable, Blackburn is different, each census sees another marked decline in the white population.

You can debate the rights and wrongs of Islamic culture in a western environment, of white flight etc. etc. all day long, but I can fairly confidently forecast that by the time of the 2021 census, White British will be a minority in the town of Blackburn (thought not the borough of BwD)- indeed they are already by a large margin in primary schools- with no sign of further white flight abating.

[Audax]

In the history of man, rarely do these kinds of vast demographic changes occur. Those who don't like these changes should not be criticised because we are all being human.

11,000 honour crimes between 2010 to 2014 in Britain per the graphic.

[tomphil]

Cup of tea brigade?

Thought it was a good article ABABY, especially for the daily mail. Strangely - the only real quotes I though made sense where from the only Asian interviewed, talking about how many move away due to unfounded fears-

Which is exactly what I believe, the intolerance of other culture, buildings, clothing etc- it's all down to fear. People say that they don't like how Blackburn had changed - but 150,000 Asian people live in the town and with that comes cultural difference. Funnily enough, it's never the cheap taxis or delivered food, it's the minarets and burkas that people cannot tolerate. Those who cannot accept that, move away and lament the change - baseline example of some lack of tolerance for anything not within their own culture. I can understand how people are frustrated by the way things change - but the rationale needs to be examined - why do families and cultures want to live together? Why are churches replaced by mosques? Why do people wear different clothes?

Would I feel more in danger walking through Baswell at night than Mill Hill? I think it would be a similar fear to be honest but that's got nothing to do with being part of a "cup of tea brigade", it's about realising that there is a percentage of ALL cultures, race, religion etc who are just basically scumbags.

150k Asian people in a town of 110k total ? That's some going even for illegals and cenus dodgers.

[ABBEY]

Don't worry his Muslim pupils are the elite and his white pupils are the scumbags .. what an attitude

[JBiz]

150k Asian people in a town of 110k total ? That's some going even for illegals and cenus dodgers.

Read the article - I think it's in reference to Blackburn and Darwen as a borough

Don't worry his Muslim pupils are the elite and his white pupils are the scumbags .. what an attitude

I said some of both. You really are twisting my words based on your own inability to accept that I believe your views are intolerant, antiquated and just plain stupid.

[ABBEY]

er no I'm not and no you didn't.

[jim mk2]

This thread is destined to go down the usual depressing racist route; just wait til the Ukip voters start posting.

[tomphil]

Read the article - I think it's in reference to Blackburn and Darwen as a borough

I said some of both. You really are twisting my words based on your own inability to accept that I believe your views are intolerant, antiquated and just plain stupid.

I suggest you read it properly.

[JBiz]

Not worth it!

[JBiz]

I suggest you read it properly.

Have done. It's a larger percentage of 150,000, not that figure alone. That mistake doesn't alter the point that culture will change when the people living in those places changes.

[Baz]

Jizzle won't like this thread neither will the cup o'tea brigade .

There was an interview last night on tv and they interviewed a Muslim who was saying how tolerant and peaceful they were . He then went on to say if anyonyone wanted trouble they would get it off them , it was so arrogent even the mum in law commented on his last bit .

Same interview section where the white guy said he didn't want Islams on his street because their food smelled?

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

All I would say to those who think there is no problem whatsoever, go live in Shear Brow, Audley, Queen's Park, Bastwell etc for 6 months. Just go rent a flat there for 6 months, come back on and say what you think.

I've a good friend who lives in Audley and, not all the time but a fair amount, I'll get a filthy look for getting in the way of some youngish bloke or blokes, usually driving as though the highway code is an optional extra for chumps, when I go round to see him.

It doesn't feel great and it's not easy to endlessly turn the other cheek. I'm sure this will result in the usual finger pointing from the usual crowd which is why I would honestly say try it, just try living there for a bit. See if the little things get to you like they apparently get many people who actually do live there (and are stuck because their house price has plummeted).

People in their glass houses around the country never seem the least bit bothered in understanding where anti-immigration or anti-multicultural views come from. It's all just some nasty, irrationally prejudiced racists deciding out of spite to spoil this utopian view of the world.

[jim mk2]

"Most Muslims in this area are liberal and broad-minded. At the end of the day, the white people want to segregate themselves. If they want to live in predominantly white areas that is their choice"

....Car dealer AJ in the story.

and Donna Phillips in the story hasn't a problem living in a Muslim area.

As usual, it's certain types of whites who are the problem.

[Husky]

Blackburn is over.

I got an eye-opener at a young age. When I was at college in the good old 90's a guy in my class said to one of our Asian classmates that his 'sister was fit' ... and the religion of peace lover went absolutely crazy. There was real hate in his eyes. Something I never forgot....this from a 16 year old - way before hate preaching was at it's peak. It certainly hasn't got any better since then. . .

It seems the only people that believe in integration are the idiotic white folk that live in "countryside mansions", Muslims certainly don't.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

It seems the only people that believe in integration are the idiotic white folk that live in "countryside mansions", Muslims certainly don't.

Apart from Jim's usual absurdly idiotic drivel (quoting a woman who stated in the article that she would move if she could afford it to back up his argument that nobody minds), I assume he's honed his selective reading skills to an incredible level in ignoring the many Asians who complain (and not with the slightest restraint regarding stereotyping) about newly arrived Eastern European immigrants in certain parts of the country.

As for white people criticising "racists" from their ivory towers, I could be just such one as I'd imagine you could Husky. I live in a predominantly white area, sure I work and occasionally socialise in Blackburn but so what, I've enough distance to disconnect myself from the realities of multiculturalism and take the judgemental stance. But then I think about my friend in Audley and others like him. I get filthy looks going round to see him every month or 2, what does he get actually living there every day? Well I know what he's got in the past and why he keeps his head very low down now. What a way to live. He's not the political type though, wouldn't vote on anything. Probably conditioned that way by liberal Nazis like Jim enforcing their politics of intimidation and P.C. witch-hunting over the last 20 years.