MCMC1875 Posted February 24, 2017 Posted February 24, 2017 41 minutes ago, bob fleming said: Absolutely. But no, let's remind ourselves, Swiss said "our partners and stakeholders" in one of his episodes, interviews. It was a strange turn of phrase to say the least implying that it's not just Venkys involved in owning the club. Then again we might be reading far too much into it... he does go on after all. Maybe he'll clarify his comment about 'our partners and stakeholders'.....if he's not too busy taking a % adding value that is.
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yoda Posted February 24, 2017 Posted February 24, 2017 On 17/02/2017 at 10:06 AM, chaddyrovers said: How would anybody on here know if he had no work permit demonstratable evidence, he keeps hiding
tomphil Posted February 24, 2017 Posted February 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, bob fleming said: Absolutely. But no, let's remind ourselves, Swiss said "our partners and stakeholders" in one of his episodes, interviews. It was a strange turn of phrase to say the least implying that it's not just Venkys involved in owning the club. Then again we might be reading far too much into it... he does go on after all. I wonder if he meant 'new' partners or stakeholders ?
JHRover Posted February 24, 2017 Posted February 24, 2017 It does seem beyond strange that after 6 years with no Director of Football and leaving the manager out on a limb to deal directly with the owners, that all of a sudden they have decided that they are going to go with a Football Director structure. Why the sudden change of heart? Why suddenly interested in changing the football department after 6 years of doing nothing? Perhaps it is a Pasha idea to reduce his workload? I've no problem with a D of F/Head Coach structure so long as it is done properly. Loads of other clubs have developed it and it has worked for them - Watford, Spurs, WBA, Southampton, Sheffield Wednesday - my only concern is how much authority Senior actually has and how qualified actually is he to be running the show? I think at this club in particular, the less involvement the manager has with the owners the better. I don't want our manager wasting his time attempting to contact India or having to fly out there to speak to the owners. If someone like Senior can waste his time doing that instead whilst the manager concentrates on his job at Brockhall then no problem.
tomphil Posted February 24, 2017 Posted February 24, 2017 'Hello you are my friend, i love you and i love Blackburn Rovers. You be a good boy and you can have anything you want that's a bling promise' I think that Balaji just says that to anyone and everyone then next time you want to speak to your new friend he has disappeared so you've only got friends of your friend who promise to pass on your questions but never dare do it. Then after a while new friend remembers he owns a club, has a quick glance, listens to his adviser pals then decides neither you or the club are actually his friend after all. Back on ignore or he gets someone else to tell you 'No friend, bad man go away' Welcome to bling world.
alcd Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 If Senior has brought in Lucas Jao for his footballing ability (not evident so far) then it's a grim prospect that next season's squad will be coming from his A or B lists.
RoodMullet Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Not sure if already posted but there are a few players on this list published from FA who belong to Senior's wife's agency. Might be worth keeping an eye on; http://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/pdf/the-fa-2015-16/intermediary-transactions-1-april-2015-to-1-february-2016.ashx?la=en (ctrl+f 'onside sports')
Bigdoggsteel Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 6 hours ago, RoodMullet said: Not sure if already posted but there are a few players on this list published from FA who belong to Senior's wife's agency. Might be worth keeping an eye on; http://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/pdf/the-fa-2015-16/intermediary-transactions-1-april-2015-to-1-february-2016.ashx?la=en (ctrl+f 'onside sports') Should we not sign any players from this list? Even good ones?
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: Should we not sign any players from this list? Even good ones? We don't sign good players any more.
AllRoverAsia Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Should we not sign any players from this list? Even good ones? The poster of the intermediary list has not commented re signing or not signing anyone on the list. Have you actually looked at the list? I fancy Aguero for starters.
AllRoverAsia Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 7 hours ago, RoodMullet said: Not sure if already posted but there are a few players on this list published from FA who belong to Senior's wife's agency. Might be worth keeping an eye on; http://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/pdf/the-fa-2015-16/intermediary-transactions-1-april-2015-to-1-february-2016.ashx?la=en (ctrl+f 'onside sports') Thank you for posting. I found this of interest but have no clue re most intermediary names although Murdock appears a lot.
had.e.nuff Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 I think some on here would not sign anyone who has an agent but I am afraid most modern day players have agents
AllRoverAsia Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said: We don't sign good players any more. Who do you reckon was the last player we signed worth the match day ticket price on his own.
tomphil Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, had.e.nuff said: I think some on here would not sign anyone who has an agent but I am afraid most modern day players have agents Not necessarily just any old agents but more the conflict of interest that keeps throwing up red flags .....
JAL Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 32 minutes ago, had.e.nuff said: I think some on here would not sign anyone who has an agent but I am afraid most modern day players have agents I'd like to see for the good of British football ....a player linked with his agencies, the name and agent in particular with commission fees attached for everyone to see so that the ones who don't offer any value or deemed not to be good enough for British football and the game in general can be phased out of the game completely. So far agents seem to be hidden from public view so let's get it out in the open for the supporters to digest how their football industry is operating and how much value they give to the game of football in Britain. It doesn't help either when agents also have a big influence in the media.
Dunnfc Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, JAL said: I'd like to see for the good of British football ....a player linked with his agencies, the name and agent in particular with commission fees attached for everyone to see so that the ones who don't offer any value or deemed not to be good enough for British football and the game in general can be phased out of the game completely. So far agents seem to be hidden from public view so let's get it out in the open for the supporters to digest how their football industry is operating and how much value they give to the game of football in Britain. It doesn't help either when agents also have a big influence in the media. Not just players but managers too. I seem to recall big Sam saying getting in with agencies and taking the cuts of players and ways round 3rd parties. It's not just rovers affected by this. Anyone care to guess who represents Mowbray?
Parsonblue Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Dunnfc said: Not just players but managers too. I seem to recall big Sam saying getting in with agencies and taking the cuts of players and ways round 3rd parties. It's not just rovers affected by this. Anyone care to guess who represents Mowbray? I really couldn't care less who represents him. If he does a good job that'll do for me.
AllRoverAsia Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Dunnfc said: Not just players but managers too. I seem to recall big Sam saying getting in with agencies and taking the cuts of players and ways round 3rd parties. It's not just rovers affected by this. Anyone care to guess who represents Mowbray? I would like to know. If such info is available then why not. Early days but I have taken to Mowbray and and hope he succeeds for his sake but mainly for ours.
Amo Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, Parsonblue said: I really couldn't care less who represents him. If he does a good job that'll do for me. A good job for whom, that's the question.
Dunnfc Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Parsonblue said: I really couldn't care less who represents him. If he does a good job that'll do for me. Well to be fair in six years you've not moved an inch on any of your current standing so I'm not surprised in the slightest to see such strange comments like this. Personally I'd be especially concerned at any agent links under this corrupt regime especially when you take in the quoted below; Quote Matt’s first Claim was: He shared a car journey with Steve Kean and Jerome Anderson, just days after Sam Allardyce’s departure with Matt doing the driving. They pulled up on a car park, and Jerome Anderson said to Matt. “I need to know are you with us?, I know you and Sam were close, but you need to understand, it’s just business, Sam will get another Job”. Matt made it clear, he was happy at Rovers and was happy to continue, and even happier if they wanted him to continue? During the time the car was parked, Steve Kean and Jerome Anderson, discussed Steve Kean’s contract and its contents for him to become full time Manager. Steve Kean then suggested to Matt, his position was safe and he would personally see he was alright. Matts second Claim was: Steve Kean called him into his office at the Training ground for a meeting. He asked Matt to shut the door, and put a proposal to him. He offered Matt £500 per week cash in hand, which Steve would give him weekly, to keep the players sweet, be the fly on the wall, and help plant stories into the press, by using the players. He was asked to use motives, for example racism to plant the seed in the players mind, that Kean had their backs. He also wanted Matt to be on call if he needed him, including during any meetings he may have. Matt stated although a Player Liaison officer gets an okay wage, it’s certainly not a footballers wage and £500.00 a week tax free, is not something to turn your nose up at, especially as you are trying to keep your job. Matt accepted to the proposal Matt’s third claim : Steve Kean, became very reliant on him, as he liked a drink. He would call him at all hours, especially in the early hours of the morning to pick him up, from wherever he had been drinking, as Matt was now becoming more of Kean’s PA, for this additional money, which was paid weekly as Steve Kean said it would be. This included late nights at Ewood after first team fixtures. Matt’s fourth Claim: Matt would always be present when Anderson, Huber and Indoo Sella da Monteluce were present for meetings at the Training ground and random, places around the North-West. Matt made it very clear, that is was beyond any reason able doubt, who was in charge at Ewood and it certainly was not the board of Directors. All transfers, third party ownerships, payments were discussed in these meetings, and he was privy to the lot, including current player negotiations, which were being managed by the before mentioned, despite them having their own agents. Hocking was very much the training ground Mr Fix-it as he was used as the go between to try and tie current players into contracts which had Anderson’s associates fingers all over them, whilst escorting players and agents of players who were very much part of third party ownership around the training ground and local houses, he used Formica as an example of this. Taken from Glens Blog.
Bigdoggsteel Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, Dunnfc said: Well to be fair in six years you've not moved an inch on any of your current standing so I'm not surprised in the slightest to see such strange comments like this. Personally I'd be especially concerned at any agent links under this corrupt regime especially when you take in the quoted below; Taken from Glens Blog. Who is Matt?
donnermeat Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: Who is Matt? http://roversrevisited2.blogspot.co.uk/?m=1 Read the blog and find out.
booth Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Who is Matt? For someone so sure of themselves you're a bit behind. You might want to catch up before "debating" in future, that way the more informed people on here may not get so tetchy.
Bigdoggsteel Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, donnermeat said: http://roversrevisited2.blogspot.co.uk/?m=1 Read the blog and find out. I don't see any reference at that link
Bigdoggsteel Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, booth said: For someone so sure of themselves you're a bit behind. You might want to catch up before "debating" in future, that way the more informed people on here may not get so tetchy. I didn't realise that not knowing who Matt is means I cannot discuss any rovers topic. Is that in the message board guidelines?
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