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Only because there fans did something about it. Pompey fans even own it, Rangers fans rallied round during the IPO. So you seem to be relient on those now doing something about the issues with BRFC saving it by quoting those examples.

It's clear both Al's and your views differ from the majority but not doing a shred of anything which could help i'm just perplexed by it, by being under the illusion of everything will all be ok and assuming there will always be a club in my opinion and not to project on anyone is selfish.

You are still trying to browbeat everyone. Who says you are speaking for the majority? It's just your incorrect assumption.

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You are still trying to browbeat everyone. Who says you are speaking for the majority? It's just your incorrect assumption.

Ok buddy... Keep the head buried in the sand.

From a pre-venkys crowd of 25k to 7k today... i think the majority has already decided. Christ even Bowyer had 14.5 k.

No brownbeating in fact the last two posts have now been very factual in pointing out your assumptions being incorrect.

We will agree to disagree though.

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Out of curiosity how would boycotting fans react if I was willing to meet boycotters at the brown cow, march down, chant, hold banners, hand leaflets out whatever helps then at 2.50 buy a ticket and watch the match. Even take a banner in.How would that be perceived/go down with fans who have had a drink. Blackpool fans throwing the scab line around ?

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Out of curiosity how would boycotting fans react if I was willing to meet boycotters at the brown cow, march down, chant, hold banners, hand leaflets out whatever helps then at 2.50 buy a ticket and watch the match. Even take a banner in.How would that be perceived/go down with fans who have had a drink. Blackpool fans throwing the scab line around ?

For me I think that's all you can ask of people who still intend on going inside these days.

Everyone has to do there bit but i think every little helps in drawing attention to our rapid plight.

Technically "Scab" is correct in terms of wording for the situation but it's too associated with other things.

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Ok buddy... Keep the head buried in the sand.

From a pre-venkys crowd of 25k to 7k today... i think the majority has already decided. Christ even Bowyer had 14.5 k.

No brownbeating in fact the last two posts have now been very factual in pointing out your assumptions being incorrect.

We will agree to disagree though.

Sorry but it's your assumption that boycotting will make a difference that is incorrect and I have pointed that out to you. Venkys will go when they are good and ready.

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I'm in a bit of a pickle regarding this match too. It will be my first time back in The Burn since sunny September.

Whereas I support any protests against the Venkys. I love The FA Cup and I'd also quite like to see the game, especially since it will (could) be my first of the season and possibly my only one. Like Christmas with elderly relatives - I kind of look at every game I attend and philosophically wonder if it could be the last.

I guess it wouldn't really be right to go on the march and then go to the game right?

I might stage a one person centre circle invasion though. My rubber chicken has arrived ^_^

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We have to disagree. My definition of not doing anything would be stopping attendance, not protesting, donating or attending the meetings.

Still supporting is one of those, it may go against your own personal choice of solution but that's the point.

When we're talking of "not doing anything" it's obvious to me we're talking about "not doing anything" to help rescue this club from the fate it's currently undertaking.

I know you don't like being told that you aren't doing - and won't do anything about the situation, but you won't. Persuade me I've got that wrong.

Like I said JB, if it's not worth fighting for, it's not worth having. If some fans aren't prepared to do the tiniest bit to let the owners they don't agree with what they're doing, then they don't deserve the club.

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I'm in a bit of a pickle regarding this match too. It will be my first time back in The Burn since sunny September.

Whereas I support any protests against the Venkys. I love The FA Cup and I'd also quite like to see the game, especially since it will (could) be my first of the season and possibly my only one. Like Christmas with elderly relatives - I kind of look at every game I attend and philosophically wonder if it could be the last.

I guess it wouldn't really be right to go on the march and then go to the game right?

I might stage a one person centre circle invasion though. My rubber chicken has arrived ^_^

Go if you want. Don't let them blackmail you.

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Sorry but it's your assumption that boycotting will make a difference that is incorrect and I have pointed that out to you. Venkys will go when they are good and ready.

You do realize the word "Boycotting" covers many forms don't you?

verb

gerund or present participle: boycotting
  1. withdraw from commercial or social relations with (a country, organization, or person) as a punishment or protest.
    "we will boycott all banks which take part in the loans scheme"
    • refuse to buy or handle (goods) as a punishment or protest.
      "an advert urges consumers to boycott the firm's coffee"
    • refuse to cooperate with or participate in (a policy or event).
      "most parties indicated that they would boycott the election"

Clear by reading the accounts it's having a financial and evident display.

Go if you want. Don't let them blackmail you.

No one is blackmailing anyone

blackmail

ˈblakmeɪl/
noun
  1. 1.
    the action, treated as a criminal offence, of demanding money from someone in return for not revealing compromising information which one has about them.
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You do realize the word "Boycotting" covers many forms don't you?

Clear by reading the accounts it's having a financial and evident display.

The gate money is a minor consideration and you know it.

No one is blackmailing anyone

Have it your way. Browbeating then. We all know your opinion. Many don't agree with it. I'm going to leave it at that.

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Have it your way. Browbeating then. We all know your opinion. Many don't agree with it. I'm going to leave it at that.

Whilst that is only one small matter you do realize FFP rules go against turnover in League one and are capped at 60% towards wages, we are currently spending 128%?

Salary Cost Management Protocol (SCMP) explained

Clubs in the League 1 and League 2 operate within a Spending Constraint framework termed Salary Cost Management Protocol (SMCP). SCMP limits spending on player wages to a percentage of club Turnover. In League 1 clubs can spend a maximum of 60% of their turnover on wages - in League 2, the limit is 55%. There are no restrictions (in themselves) on the amount a club can lose or spend on transfer fees.

So if your a couple of million down in terms of match day revenue in 2015, a few more this season (2016) and no doubt maybe another million next year in league one (2017) then this significantly starts to strangle the club in relation to player wages and spend next year whilst that ratio continues to remain astronomically high.

That's the bigger picture Al.... And who can deny it won't have an effect when you take the above into account.

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Whilst that is only one small matter you do realize FFP rules go against turnover in League one and are capped at 60% towards wages, we are currently spending 128%?

So if your a couple of million down in terms of match day revenue in 2015, a few more this season (2016) and no doubt maybe another million next year in league one (2017) then this significantly starts to strangle the club in relation to player wages and spend next year whilst that ratio continues to remain astronomically high.

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Exactly why boycotting speeds up the decline. Once again refer to the Cov chairmans quotes, if they aren't going anywhere - non attendance is cutting our own nose off to spite our collective faces.

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Exactly why boycotting speeds up the decline. Once again refer to the Cov chairmans quotes, if they aren't going anywhere - non attendance is cutting our own nose off to spite our collective faces.

Well once those fines start coming our way then it really will start having a direct impact on the owners.

Especially if there ends up being an inability to pay those amongst other things possibly then leading to the complete collapse and owners losing control.

Not as if the decline to date has been anything but slow though.

The initial point Al made though was that gate receipts had little impact, quite clearly they will when relegated this year.

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When we're talking of "not doing anything" it's obvious to me we're talking about "not doing anything" to help rescue this club from the fate it's currently undertaking.

I know you don't like being told that you aren't doing - and won't do anything about the situation, but you won't. Persuade me I've got that wrong.

Like I said JB, if it's not worth fighting for, it's not worth having. If some fans aren't prepared to do the tiniest bit to let the owners they don't agree with what they're doing, then they don't deserve the club.

It's nothing to do with what I've done, I'm not getting into some willy waving contest. You have no idea what I've been involved in or given money and support too - I've little interest in talking about these irrelevances!

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It's nothing to do with what I've done, I'm not getting into some willy waving contest. You have no idea what I've been involved in or given money and support too - I've little interest in talking about these irrelevances!

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Exactly why boycotting speeds up the decline. Once again refer to the Cov chairmans quotes, if they aren't going anywhere - non attendance is cutting our own nose off to spite our collective faces.

The Coventry chairman is a 1st class twohat and anyone who listens to him or respects what drivel he comes out with is as bad

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Exactly why boycotting speeds up the decline. Once again refer to the Cov chairmans quotes, if they aren't going anywhere - non attendance is cutting our own nose off to spite our collective faces.

Oh well in that case we should all pay not only ST money but why not a bit more? Why don't you pledge some extra money to support Venky's running of the club? Perhaps we can do a whip around at Ewood every week with collection buckets for our owners. I'm sure they'll really appreciate it and start running things even better than they already are.

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Have it your way. Browbeating then. We all know your opinion. Many don't agree with it. I'm going to leave it at that.

Browbeaten!!!!!

It's the supporters that have been Browbeaten, by @#/? (corrupt) own

ers, agents, FA, Premier league ect.

Out of curiosity, is there anything you would stand up for or against?

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Oh well in that case we should all pay not only ST money but why not a bit more? Why don't you pledge some extra money to support Venky's running of the club? Perhaps we can do a whip around at Ewood every week with collection buckets for our owners. I'm sure they'll really appreciate it and start running things even better than they already are.

To coin a catchphrase; Sigh..

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One last time, for clarification.

On Saturday 28th January, 2017, if you choose to go to Ewood Park and purchase a ticket to watch Blackburn Rovers FC vs Blackpool FC, your hard earnt money, your children's inheritance, the food for your table will be split three ways. It will go too, either directly or indirectly; the Venky family, the Oyston family and The FA.

The decision is yours. Whatever you do, sleep well at night.

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Back to the thread title.

I reckon 'Pool will be winning 1-0 right up to the 90th minute.

All of a sudden there is a massive time warp across planet Earth.

Up pops Mick McGrath to shoot low and hard through a badly overcrowded mud heap of a Blackpool penalty area to equalise.

We are drawn against Spurs away in the next round.

4000 Rovers fans join the Blackpool fans in protest outside Bloomfield Road at the replay.

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Depends on your point of view 47er. Clearly many Rovers supporters want to watch the game which is fair enough I would have thought.

I wanted to watch Football with my girlfriend

Fair enough, you are perfectly entitled to think that. Others are perfectly entitled to look forward to watching a Cup-tie which is what this thread is about - the game itself.

Lets talk about Football and the game. Protests should be discussed in the other protests threads

absolutely spot on, I have a season ticket, and I get no pleasure from the match day experience as everything is tainted by our owners and the actions they have taken. If you still enjoy it good for you but for me I cannot stand by and watch something I love being run into the ground. I get some people don't want to protest me and chaddy have spoken at length on it, we both respect each others views but for me enough is enough

We have spoken at length about all matters on Rovers and general things but we have a mutant respect between us and that's the crucial thing in this even if we don't agree Pete we respect each other view

Anyone not prepared to take action even if it's half an hour before a game handing leaflets out or reviewing accounts etc is a disgrace. How anyone can continue to watch the systematic destruction of there club and sit back, attend and watch are borderline mentally ill.

why disgrace? Each of us have own reasons for own actions and each should be respect.

very uncalled for calling people a disgrace and IMO unacceptable.

I will be inside the stadium for 2pm

75 and I believe they will. Certainly boycotting matches won't increase their chances. Stop trying to impose your will on others. We will all do what we think fit.

Each of us have own views about this

Sorry but it's your assumption that boycotting will make a difference that is incorrect and I have pointed that out to you. Venkys will go when they are good and ready.

I've been saying this for a number of weeks. Venkys couldn't care less about the protest and people not attending. They aren't affected by it. They are in India and will it be publicise over there and do Indian people really care about Blackburn Rovers or about the India cricket

I've decided I'm going.

Some of the posters on here have gone way OTT IMO and I don't like being told what I should or shouldn't do.

Put me right off protesting they have.

I understand that view and one I can share with. I have made my views on the protests and be very honest. that should be respected at least

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I've decided I'm going.

Some of the posters on here have gone way OTT IMO and I don't like being told what I should or shouldn't do.

Put me right off protesting they have.

You never protested in the first place did you?

It's nothing to do with what I've done, I'm not getting into some willy waving contest. You have no idea what I've been involved in or given money and support too - I've little interest in talking about these irrelevances!

You've done nothing, we all know that, so stop digging and accept you're not a protestor, you'll not be alone.

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