[Archived] Rovers Vs The Pool Fa Cup

[blue kiwi]

Watch out on Saturday for unknown persons causing trouble.a joint protest causes a few problems because either side do not know who is who.

[Stuart]

Maybe if the boycotters where not so aggressive towards non boycotters more people would protest regardless of attending the game or not. My heart says boycott Saturday but whilst the pressure and negative handling of attenders persist whilst at the same time saying not a penny more I wont take part. The same people who put pressure on people to change their morals and beliefs to help your beliefs for one game, won't back it up and stand together for one game attending. This attitude is completely dividing the fan base. I haven't seen one person attending on this board slate anyone boycotting. I have seen people explain why there not boycotting but not abuse people. The boycott is pointless when your driving a wedge between your own fans. That's why I've had enough and I'm going and will sit and watch the whole horror show play out. I was going to protest before going in but it is pointless and I find the whole thing stinks of hypocrisy

Don't agree with any of this.

You've not been on this board that long then. And we've even done this argument to death. It doesn't matter what approach, the majority just cannot be arsed to protest let alone boycott. Can you imagine: "oh well, now you've been nice to me, yes, I'll definitely stop going now". Not words, not passion, not empathy, not even the bare facts will convince some people.

And as for aggression there is FAR more aggression coming from the do-nowts than ANY other group.

[Paul]

Belated happy birthday for yesterday.

We really should have age banded forums:

25 and below

26 to 50

Over 50s

Anyone can go in any forum but modding is based on a rules set by the age range of the posters for whom that forum is for.

This needs correcting. The moderation is not influenced in any shape or form by age. Every forum is for every member to chose whether or not they wish to contribute to it.

[Stuart]

This needs correcting. The moderation is not influenced in any shape or form by age. Every forum is for every member to chose whether or not they wish to contribute to it.

No it doesn't need correcting.

I'm saying what I think it should/could be done. It would solve a lot of issues due to differences in sensibilities.

[dave birch]

Stuart, do you know how old I am?

In life, generally, and particularly in quite a number of cultures, age is considered an asset, one that has to be treasured.

What you are confusing, I think, is that statements made by people are, not "fact" but only "opinions". Providing links to news organisation websites, do not constitute "fact", it's generally some guys "opinion".

Taking statements as opinions and not facts changes the whole situation. If you do that, then life (on the internet) is much easier to accept.

Age should not come into it.

[Paul]

No it doesn't need correcting.

I'm saying what I think it should/could be done. It would solve a lot of issues due to differences in sensibilities.

Exacgly Stuart you said modding "IS" based on age not that you think it should be.

I've no problem, though I disagree, with what you think should happen. I'm just saying it is not what does happen.

[Mike E]

Anyway... Blackpool...

[JBiz]

Taking statements as opinions and not facts changes the whole situation. If you do that, then life (on the internet) is much easier to accept.

Age should not come into it.

Hallelujah. Just add on "and respecting said opinion without the need to agree" and youve cracked it.

[Oldgregg86]

Don't agree with any of this.

You've not been on this board that long then. And we've even done this argument to death. It doesn't matter what approach, the majority just cannot be arsed to protest let alone boycott. Can you imagine: "oh well, now you've been nice to me, yes, I'll definitely stop going now". Not words, not passion, not empathy, not even the bare facts will convince some people.

And as for aggression there is FAR more aggression coming from the do-nowts than ANY other group.

[pk1875]

Out of curiosity how would boycotting fans react if I was willing to meet boycotters at the brown cow, march down, chant, hold banners, hand leaflets out whatever helps then at 2.50 buy a ticket and watch the match. Even take a banner in.How would that be perceived/go down with fans who have had a drink. Blackpool fans throwing the scab line around ?

I would happily share a pint with you, there is NO protest that 100% will back, each fan has their own mind and deserves mutual respect. If / When this all explodes NO supporter will be to blame, 100% blame lies in Pune / Barnet / Brunei and other dark shadowy places.

[Oldgregg86]

Your right I wasn't on this board around the kean era. I can only comment on what I've seen this season, and thats how I see it. I saw how awful boycotters where treated at the games back then but as far as this board it's the other way round. I just try and throw different perspectives around some I agree with, some to create debate but always with the intention of giving the message united we stand, divided we fall. I see us falling further and further every passing week. Maybe I need to give up on this hippy styled ideal world scenario I believed we could one day be pushed to by the chicken pluckers.

[pk1875]

The one that gets my back up the most is 'non protesters are Venky lovers'

I'm sure fans that haven't protested despise them just as much as fans that have protested.

Not all...... some STILL defend them, unbelievable but sadly true

[AggyBlue]

Not all...... some STILL defend them, unbelievable but sadly true

I can only comment from my perspective, I've never come across anyone that backs them.

[Gav]

I've posted once, earlier tonight, that the OTT commemts on here from protesters have put me right off joining them on Saturday.

Feel free to quote the other times I've made similar comments.

Did you bother to read my contributions to protesting this year?

What have you done this year?

Try taking the stick out of your arse, it was a general comment you prickly swine.

On a side note I've just heard Mark and Christine on radio Lancs talking about the protest tomorrow.

Both spoke very very well in my opinion, a credit to the cause, well done

[AggyBlue]

Try taking the stick out of your arse, it was a general comment you prickly swine.

Seriously. What have you done this year?

Besides the glib posts you put on here.

[Gav]

Seriously. What have you done this year?

Besides the glib posts you put on here.

I'm not getting involved in a p1ssing competition, apologies for wind you up like a cuckoo clock, it wasn't the intention I can assure you.

[AggyBlue]

I'm not getting involved in a p1ssing competition, apologies for wind you up like a cuckoo clock, it wasn't the intention I can assure you.

It's OK buddy, You've not wound me up.

The owners are the ones that wind me up.

[47er]

I can only comment from my perspective, I've never come across anyone that backs them.

You've never read the official Rovers site then or even the LT. Admittedly some are Scumley fans masquerading as humans.

[AggyBlue]

You've never read the official Rovers site then or even the LT. Admittedly some are Scumley fans masquerading as humans.

Correct. You just don't know who those people are. I mean face to face, I haven't come across anyone that has a kind word to say about the owners.

[den]

I'm not getting involved in a p1ssing competition, apologies for wind you up like a cuckoo clock, it wasn't the intention I can assure you.

A string of put downs.

You're the best I know at that Gav.

[Mattyblue]

Correct. You just don't know who those people are. I mean face to face, I haven't come across anyone that has a kind word to say about the owners.

Really?

I have, on many occasions, and I don't mean years ago.

'Badly advised'

'Trying to put things right'

'Hands are tied by FFP'

'Put more money in than Jack ever did'

'If you protest against them you deserve relegation'

[Neal]

Lot of arguing, you either support the club under venky ownership and be ok with it... Or you don't.

Everyone has the right to do as they please but those who choose to do NOTHING to stand against them are not the sort of fans i would want to sit next to at Ewood anyway. These fans are almost as much to blame for my boycotting as much as Venkys.

As i've said before, come Saturday i'll probably have more in common with my Blackpool comrades. Sad but true... At least i'll feel proud as a football fan again, even if it is for a brief period.

[Al]

Well once those fines start coming our way then it really will start having a direct impact on the owners.

Especially if there ends up being an inability to pay those amongst other things possibly then leading to the complete collapse and owners losing control.

Not as if the decline to date has been anything but slow though.

The initial point Al made though was that gate receipts had little impact, quite clearly they will when relegated this year.

We've not been relegated yet. I've had enough of your B/S. You're on ignore.

[Al]

Whilst that is only one small matter you do realize FFP rules go against turnover in League one and are capped at 60% towards wages, we are currently spending 128%?

So if your a couple of million down in terms of match day revenue in 2015, a few more this season (2016) and no doubt maybe another million next year in league one (2017) then this significantly starts to strangle the club in relation to player wages and spend next year whilst that ratio continues to remain astronomically high.

That's the bigger picture Al.... And who can deny it won't have an effect when you take the above into account.

The point is that gate money is a small percentage of the turnover. Stop making it up as you go along. On ignore.

[chaddyrovers]

We've not been relegated yet.

Exactly.

We need 3 or 4 signings