[Archived] Rovers Vs The Pool Fa Cup

[sambo]

No but yet again another poster with insults.

Its my opinion. Its the same opinion as the people I go with. And Yes its opinion as Al and ParsonBlue.

You dont like the opinion cos its not the same as yours.

People call you out Chaddy because of your bluster all summer. You were going to boycott, then you did a complete role reversal.

People are always going to get riled by barely coherent posts back slapping yourself as some kind of 'super fan'.

[chaddyrovers]

People call you out Chaddy because of your bluster all summer. You were going to boycott, then you did a complete role reversal.

People are always going to get riled by barely coherent posts back slapping yourself as some kind of 'super fan'.

I did say I would not renew if Coyle was appointed.

But then I changed my mind and fully explained my reasons why I did. That was in June. Thats was 8 months ago and still people cant move on. So it wasnt all summer at all.

[Mercer]

On the match whilst Rovers may have put in a reasonably good get the job done type performance let's not forget just how poor a side Blackpool are. Listening to the commentary and the Blackpool guy on there was very disappointed. They didn't have a right good go at all, standard GB tactics by the sounds of it.

Blackpool were woeful.

A Lancashire derby, an FA Cup tie, I expected Blackpool to be in our faces from first whistle and really go for it. They weren't, they just stood off us and only showed a degree of intent in the last 15 minutes or so when it was too little and far too late - and they came close a couple of times during this period (and when down to 10 men) which makes you wonder what would have happened if they had gone for it from the start. Technically, Blackpool were awful with many of their team looking incapable of executing the most basic of football skills.

It was a boring, boring afternoon with only a Bennett rocket to lift the spirits. It was easy, easy for even a side as poor as Rovers, akin to a training session, and if any supporter can eulogise about that performance when faced with such pitful opposition then they really do need to give their head a wobble.

[arbitro]

Dont judge me as you dont know me. I have been very public on my thoughts on Venkys and I want them gone as much as you. Kamy and PeteD can back this up.

But like I keep saying the protests will have very little/zero impact on the owners. They will leave when they decided. Nothing I can do to impact this. So I will keep supporting the team on the pitch and remain a season ticket holder. I will support my team through the good and bad times. I know you probably wont like my post but its my view and I wont be changimg it cos of your post. So either respect it or move on.

I thought Mark Fish post on here were great and full on passion and lots of good logical points

You know what I get the Venkys will leave when they are ready and no amount of protests will effect that argument. That argument is backed up with the benefit of hindsight, the last few years of ignorance and arrogance support that view. But just over five years ago nobody knew too much about them, how they worked or what they wanted from owning a then PL club. Around this time the very first protest march was organised by Glenn. This was to try and get the owners to sack Kean who we knew was taking us down (how right the protesters were). On that march were a few hundred. Naively I expected thousands and I will never forget the nasty comments and looks from a lot of Rovers fans that day. Again naively I thought Venkys might listen to the fans, how wrong I was.

My point is that over five years ago why did you not protest? As I said we now know they don't listen, treat us with contempt and disdain but then we didn't know that. At that time we didn't and the numbers of protesters was still low.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Until you actually know why Venkys are here it is impossible to know what will persuade them to leave. Clearly protests have little impact on them, just as Charlton, Coventry, Blackpool and Leeds, despite protests, are still owned by folk the fans would like to see leave - although I suspect Leeds fans are rapidly changing their minds. I've not met anyone happy with the way the club is run but many believe that whatever happens in Blackburn has little or no impact in Pune. Is it pride? Is it because they won't admit defeat? Are they convinced they can turn it around? Do they honestly believe they can get the club into the Premier League and make money as a result? Are they content with the way things are and allowing the club to find its own level? There are so many questions and until the answers are known I honestly don't believe that anyone is going make an impact on them. As much of the debt is owed to them I don't see them putting it in administration and writing off that debt. Whilst the motives of some of those who have surrounded them in the past six years might be questionable I find the actual Rao family and their motives rather more complex. The work they do with the poor in Pune suggests that they have a social responsibility to others, as the gift to the Cathedral would also suggest. Sadly when it comes to running a football club they appear clueless. If protests work then Charlton, Coventry, Blackpool and Leeds would all have been under new ownership long ago. I've long held the view that Venky's will only leave when THEY decide it's time to go and when they do I fully expect them to sell to someone from abroad. I can fully understand the motivations behind those boycotting and protesting and for many it is a principled stance. However, personally, the folk who I know who still go to games won't join in because they believe it's ultimately a futile exercise and would prefer to do what they have always done which is support the team. I know the concept of supporting through 'thick and thin' is not a popular one on this forum but it is a principle I have held all my life and still continue to do so. Ultimately both protesters and those still supporting are doing so because of a principled view that they hold. Apologies for taking this off topic but blue kiwi asked a question which I hope I have answered for him.

Nobody can be that " clueless " after 6 years Parson.

[Amo]

Supporting the team and taking part in protests are not mutually exclusive options. The 18/75 protest wasn't a boycott but some supporters still shunned it because it might mildly inconvenience their viewing experience. Unless there are mitigating circumstances for not taking part, how can any fan in good conscience sit idly by and tacitly condone what is happening at Rovers? Please explain that to me.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

I haven't bothered reading all the comments as the tone is so juvenile. The 'if you're not with us then you're against us' approach by the fans who are protesting is just exacerbating the issue. Divisive rhetoric is not what is needed.

[DE.]

I haven't bothered reading all the comments as the tone is so juvenile. The 'if you're not with us then you're against us' approach by the fans who are protesting is just exacerbating the issue. Divisive rhetoric is not what is needed.

It's been this way since day one of the protests. Deep divides were made when the Action Group first made their stand, and by and large people on either side of the fence have remained steadfast in their views. Granted, some fans like Birdy and the Ewood Blues have changed their opinions which is good to see, but you can't help but feel that change of heart came too little too late. Rather than switch sides, people on either side are just starting to walk away, leading to both dwindling numbers on protests and dwindling numbers at Ewood. I hate to sound defeatist but I just can't see a sustained effort by a united fanbase at this point, as these divides between the remaining hardcore fans are so deeply set.

[the original david brent]

I haven't bothered reading all the comments as the tone is so juvenile. The 'if you're not with us then you're against us' approach by the fans who are protesting is just exacerbating the issue. Divisive rhetoric is not what is needed.

Touché. Some of the comments I've seen on social media from 'anti protest' fans who went to the game are childish and insulting to the protesters.

[DaveyB]

...how can any fan in good conscience sit idly by and tacitly condone what is happening at Rovers? Please explain that to me.

Other than posting jibes at other fans on a messageboard what are you doing to help get rid of the owners? You've already admitted that you weren't at the protest yesterday, so maybe you can enlighten us all with what you have done?

[Neal]

I haven't bothered reading all the comments as the tone is so juvenile. The 'if you're not with us then you're against us' approach by the fans who are protesting is just exacerbating the issue. Divisive rhetoric is not what is needed.

`So what is needed? Do enlighten us.

[USABlue]

Why do you ever come on here?

Every post is an insult to someone

I supoose the real question is why is he allowed to keep coming here insulting people.

[Rover_Shaun]

Still laughing?

Still stoped play!

You've a stronger throw than me. Well done

On another note I had a similar experience to some on here. I put my finger in the electric socket today. It hurt. But nothing I do can stop electricity hurting me. So tomorrow I will put another finger in the same socket.

[Spalding Rover]

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[47er]

I did say I would not renew if Coyle was appointed.

But then I changed my mind and fully explained my reasons why I did. That was in June. Thats was 8 months ago and still people cant move on. So it wasnt all summer at all.

You are always having to explain why you have changed your mind. It's as incoherent as the reason for the original thought bubble.

And it's bloody annoying.

[Amo]

I supoose the real question is why is he allowed to keep coming here insulting people.

Ironically, Jbizzle liked this. A fellow who was allowed to post actual insults with impunity.

[JAL]

Did Williams duck from a cross that led to Blackpool hitting the bar?

[chaddyrovers]

You are always having to explain why you have changed your mind. It's as incoherent as the reason for the original thought bubble.

And it's bloody annoying.

Its annoying by you keep going on about something I fully explained in June. Move on for god sake. Its gone. I renewed. If you didnt or did. Good for you. Im really not bothered

[47er]

Its annoying by you keep going on about something I fully explained in June. Move on for god sake. Its gone. I renewed. If you didnt or did. Good for you. Im really not bothered

The trouble is your full explanations are full of holes but let's move on till the next time!

[chaddyrovers]

The trouble is your full explanations are full of holes but let's move on till the next time!

Not really but you just keep going on and on. Its really boring now.

Dont like me or my posts then just ignore me. Im not bothered.

You clearly have a major issue with me renewing my season ticket. Its my personal choice and my choice alone. Just like whether I take part in the protest or not..its my personal choice. Not yours.

[47er]

I thought you said to move on?

[Mike E]

Parson:

Amarillo has financially contributed to protest funds. That makes him a protester as much as he can be from 300 miles away.

Chaddy:

The thing is, you are KNOWN for changing your mind. All the time. That is why people do not trust your 'full explanations'. If you stuck to your convictions just a few times, you wouldn't get anywhere near the stick you do on here.

I'm off to bed.

[punerover]

If protests worked, Manchester United would NOT be owned by the glazers. Proof, F.C United of Manchester and one would not call Manchester United a badly run club by any standards. Bad owners don't get you clubs, proof against bad ownership gets the club back. AKA Portsmouth

[dave birch]

He's BAAAACK.

Tell me Pune, how much have the Glazers ripped out of Manure, and how much better off they would have been under more beneficial owners.

Son, you know nowt about football, it's meaning to community, it's history for the area that it serviced.

Get this through your skull, it is not a business, it is community first and foremost.

That people make money from it is the root of the problem.

[punerover]

He's BAAAACK.

Tell me Pune, how much have the Glazers ripped out of Manure, and how much better off they would have been under more beneficial owners.

Son, you know nowt about football, it's meaning to community, it's history for the area that it serviced.

Get this through your skull, it is not a business, it is community first and foremost.

That people make money from it is the root of the problem.

Aah. I would be glad to reply

1. Let us assume that the Glazers did not rip manure of anything which is Not the case, maybe you can find that excellent youtube video someone posted here on club ownership.[What were people protesting about then? Why did they want new owners? Why was the FC United of manchester club formed in the first place?] I mean do you really not know this?

2. I admit I am not an expert or significantly knowledgeable on football. So on that point I agree with you 100%.

3. If its about community, all the clubs Parson mentioned in his post should have changed hands but hey hey... they didn't. Maybe you did not read his post, Charlton, Leeds, Nottingham Forest, Cardiff, Blackpool, Coventry, awww come on .. do you really want me to enumerate on that list? I am sure you know this list by heart now.

4. About people making money, mmmmmmm hey hey Don't put them for SALE Simple. Nobody will make money of the club. But I can pretty much bet any amount of money that british clubs have been bought and sold and will continue to do so way beyond your or my existence. They should strictly be run as a NGO which is NOT FOR PROFIT.

I have said this 100 times before, it either takes Money or a court ruling {or both} in order to get a football club back. There will be people who will be in denial but that is to be expected on both sides of the fence.