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[AllRoverAsia]

6 hours ago, davulsukur said:

Wait, we can have a coach to coach the coaches but we're not allowed a right back?

If a Coach coaches the Coaches who coaches the Coach?

[AllRoverAsia]

4 hours ago, Stuart said:

Gotta love the swear filter. Some of the words getting through recently and it censors S@#/?horpe!

S@#/?horpe - just testing Scun and thorpe 

[Iceman]

Why do you guys think Roy Keane has been so much to Ewood? Not for the Pastys, but makes you wonder. 

Keane and Giggs as his assistant. Lol 

[chor808]

Any new man should read this mornings LT story. Anything of worth will be sold and zero to spend.

[arbitro]

There are some interesting and some expected names being linked but whoever it is won't have any money to spend and have to work with Cheston, Senior, Pasha and Venkys (and their associates).

I would like someone with a proven track record of improving players and bringing youngsters through.

[AllRoverAsia]

8 minutes ago, chor808 said:

Any new man should read this mornings LT story. Anything of worth will be sold and zero to spend.

A very depressing read which killed quickly the post Coyle high. Obviously a deliberate tactic to make us accept less. Cheston is tainted by his job and is a twxx

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

6 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I was going to reply to this earlier but didn't get chance. Wow, I was genuinely gobsmacked by that suggestion. If I did a least of all the managers I would least like to take over it'd read: Steve Kean, Juan Ali, Bryan Robson, Peter Taylor, Paul Jewell, Peter Reid, McLeish. Lol.

My only worry about Adkins would be that whilst he might be a relatively safe pair of hands medium to long term, he does seem to have rather a dull persona and I'm not sure if we need someone who could come and either inspire or frighten the life out of the players to get the instant improvement we need.

Adkins seems to be the pick of the rather limited field we are in.  That said, I can only see him doing well here if he is around for 2-3 years and given some reign over signings. May be good from an academy perspective.  Possibly another 'Bowyer' and not a short term fix candidate.

Sherwood on the other hand, may be the Bawler/motivator we need to get us out of the relegation spots but not sure he could develop and take us forward.

You pay your money, you takes your choice I suppose.

[DanielMB]

Should we be grateful for them fixing their own massive cockup? No chance.

[chor808]

1 minute ago, AllRoverAsia said:

A very depressing read which killed quickly the post Coyle high. Obviously a deliberate tactic to make us accept less. Cheston is tainted by his job and is a twxx

And also put out on what they see as a good news day, they have timed that message no doubt about it. The accounts have been around for some time.

[Athlete]

Just now, chor808 said:

And also put out on what they see as a good news day, they have timed that message no doubt about it. The accounts have been around for some time.

The only good news will be when cheston senior venkys coar the partners all depart Ewood for good 

 

Interestingly Oddschecker still have betting has suspended 

[Gone to seed]

The timing is more sickening evidence of the incompetence of those 'in control' of the club - they clearly saw the danger of allowing the club to go into the United game with no-one at the helm, a prospect that would have exposed the true situation to the scrutiny of a scandal-hungry media, especially at a time when the FA is under pressure. So, they allowed Boil-head to hold the reins for a few extra days, to cover their embarrasment at not having a plan for his replacement.

Imagine Sunday's game if there had been no-one in charge - the prospect of a United rout, followed by intrusive questions from the media and pundits connected with the club (Shearer, Sutton etc) plus no-one able to state what the plan going forward is, must have frightened the shoite out of fat Barry, and the ash holes behind the scenes.

It doesn't matter who comes in now - we are a busted flush, and there is no real prospect of any change until we are purged of the cancer that riddles the club from top to bottom. Whoever does get appointed is on a hiding to nothing, and frankly will need to be completely corrupt and without conscience to take the job in the first place. Or a complete idiot / stooge (i.e. no change there).

[had.e.nuff]

6 hours ago, blue kiwi said:

id take anyone with a nouse of tactics,motivation and ambition.

anybody who can organize a defense will do me

[onlyonejackwalker]

6 hours ago, Athlete said:

Correct but not now he's been out the game way too long 

Has the ball changed shape? Pitch got bigger? More players allowed? Would have liked Curbishley here a few times in the past.

Glad Coyle has gone as i believe he under achieved. Hard however to get excited by any new manager working under these circumstances and owners as it will simply be more of the same.

 

[Oldgregg86]

I wonder if he would of still got sacked if we beat manure. It seems to me the decision was made pre cup game. His pr machine would of loved that. Makes me cringe just thinking about it

[neophox]

When is training today, who takes the training?

[bob fleming]

Just now, neophox said:

When is training today, who takes the training?

Looking at their fitness levels they probably have Wednesdays and Thursdays off. I wouldn't worry about it. No one at the club has been doing anyway.

But the straight answer is that Bayes from Radio Lancs believes that David Lowe would be.

[had.e.nuff]

Just now, neophox said:

When is training today, who takes the training?

don't know but a big shock with no table tennis and doughnuts

[Athlete]

Just now, onlyonejackwalker said:

Has the ball changed shape? Pitch got bigger? More players allowed? Would have liked Curbishley here a few times in the past.

 

 

lol....................no just think he's had his day

but as you say anyone will struggle unless they have no morals working under this structure

[Athlete]

SSN just done a replay on Cotterills comments from last night......really hope its not him

[JHRover]

8 hours ago, Dunnfc said:

Really I'm shocked that your gobsmacked? A proven and experienced coach available the next day with a stern reputation for building tight defenses. Sounds like the ideal steady safe pair of hands we need until we can asses this situation properly i.e end of the season. Seems to be the approach even Rangers might be taking given he is now being linked there.

 

Team	Nat	From	To	Record
				G	W	D	L	Win%[a]
Motherwell	Scotland	13 July 1994	10 February 1998	156	48	45	63	30.77
Hibernian	Scotland	11 February 1998	11 December 2001	164	77	42	45	46.95
Rangers	Scotland	13 December 2001	8 May 2006	235	155	44	36	65.96
Scotland	Scotland	29 January 2007	27 November 2007	10	7	0	3	70.00
Birmingham City	England	28 November 2007	12 June 2011	168	62	51	55	36.90
Aston Villa	England	17 June 2011	14 May 2012	42	9	17	16	21.43
Nottingham Forest	England	27 December 2012	5 February 2013	7	1	2	4	14.29
Genk	Belgium	22 August 2014	22 June 2015	35	18	10	7	51.43
Zamalek[79]	Egypt	28 February 2016	2 May 2016	10	6	2	2	60.00
Total				827	383	213	231	46.31

Not bad records apart from Forest but we all know what happened there whilst he even managed the feat of qualifying for Europe with his stint in Genk as opposed to Adkins whom your championing last being sacked for being mid-table with Sheffield Utd so I can't understand how you'd be so gobsmacked unless you've got him mixed up with someone else? MacLeish's overall win ratio also appears slightly better too.

 

Team	From	To	Record					Ref
			P	W	D	L	Win %
S@#/?horpe United	6 November 2006	12 September 2010	199	83	44	72	41.7	[20]
Southampton	12 September 2010	18 January 2013	124	67	25	32	54.0	[20]
Reading	26 March 2013	15 December 2014	80	29	20	31	36.3	[17][20]
Sheffield United	2 June 2015	12 May 2016	54	22	14	18	40.7	[20]
Total			457	201	103	153	44.0	—

 

The thing is though that the only section of McLeish's CV relevant to us is his time at Birmingham, Villa and Forest when he was managing in the Premier League and Championship. We can probably ignore his short stint at Forest as we should ignore Jackett's short stint at Rotherham as 7 games is nothing and he left due to off the field issues. But then look at his Birmingham and Villa records. More than 200 games and only 71 wins isn't good at all, and he was slaughtered for his spell at Villa. Having a good record in Scotland/Belgium isn't really that useful here. Coyle had a good record in Scotland but has shown repeatedly he can't hack it in England.

I agree he should bring in some defensive structure and has substantial experience and he certainly would be preferable to going in house again or appointing Neil Redfearn or the like, but I think I'd prefer us to look elsewhere.

Contrast with Adkins who has managed at both ends of the Championship and has 3 promotions from League One. Normally if we were relegated I'd think he'd be well placed to get us back up again, like Jackett with his 2 promotions from League One with Millwall and Wolves.

[Bigdoggsteel]

51 minutes ago, Disenfranchised said:

The timing is more sickening evidence of the incompetence of those 'in control' of the club - they clearly saw the danger of allowing the club to go into the United game with no-one at the helm, a prospect that would have exposed the true situation to the scrutiny of a scandal-hungry media, especially at a time when the FA is under pressure. So, they allowed Boil-head to hold the reins for a few extra days, to cover their embarrasment at not having a plan for his replacement.

Imagine Sunday's game if there had been no-one in charge - the prospect of a United rout, followed by intrusive questions from the media and pundits connected with the club (Shearer, Sutton etc) plus no-one able to state what the plan going forward is, must have frightened the shoite out of fat Barry, and the ash holes behind the scenes.

It doesn't matter who comes in now - we are a busted flush, and there is no real prospect of any change until we are purged of the cancer that riddles the club from top to bottom. Whoever does get appointed is on a hiding to nothing, and frankly will need to be completely corrupt and without conscience to take the job in the first place. Or a complete idiot / stooge (i.e. no change there).

Good points. The decision was definitely made before the UTD game. So keeping Coyle there was to present a brave face, worked well for him too as he got publicity which could land him a job in somewhere like China for example. 

If it is between Adkins and Sherwood as mentioned, I'm a bit thorn. I think Sherwoord would definitely keep us up with a  bounce, but long-term I would have huge concern as to whether he could push us on to in and around the play-offs. Adkins on the other hand, could gradually build something here like he did at Southampton. 

His time at Southampton is a very interesting one. If he didn't also have success at S@#/?horpe, you could say that he had a time at a club similar to Coyles spell over Burnely. Where the formula just worked,for that one period. Looking at Southampton then , you would have to say they probably had the best league 1 team ever and a very good Championship team. A good number of the players have gone on to have solid Premier league careers since. How much of a part did Adkins play? Well that is up for debate I suppose. Anyone hear anything from Southamton fans on him? 

[Biddy]

5 hours ago, AllRoverAsia said:

S@#/?horpe - just testing Scun and thorpe 

For some strange reason exact word matches are not working in the updated forum so I've have to turn on "loose" matches.  Unfortunately that has the effect of matching the word anywhere.  It's annoying and I'm still trying to see why the filter doesn't work properly.

[den]

Reading Chestons comments this morning, any optimism we might have had has been demolished. What level will we be at when the cost cutting ends? Why would any manager with ambition come here?

 

[AllRoverAsia]

Just now, den said:

Reading Chestons comments this morning, any optimism we might have had has been demolished. What level will we be at when the cost cutting ends? Why would any manager with ambition come here?

 

Correct. Cost cutting in football is a continuing downward spiral. Venkys will destroy Rovers by a thousand cuts and I for one am convinced that this is their plan.

Dont get me started on that runt Senior.

[Gav]

Just now, den said:

Reading Chestons comments this morning, any optimism we might have had has been demolished. What level will we be at when the cost cutting ends? Why would any manager with ambition come here?

 

Optimism and ambition are words not associated with Blackburn Rovers 2017 sadly....

We're nothing but a cash cow these days den, Coyle will have walked away significantly richer than when he arrived, we're nothing more than easy money for poor managers and poor players looking to boost the bank balance.

We all called this before Coyle was appointed, he'd be sacked within 12 months and try to bring in Barnes and Feeney along the way, we all called it right, pity Cheston wasn't on the same page we'd have saved him looking like a fool.