WATR (The Rovers Trust)

[Wheelton Blue]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

it was just one example of why the communication should have been better. 

As Matty suggests, if the club was run competently, we wouldn't need to hear from them aside from postive news like player signings.

Like it used to be back in the day.

[RoverDom]

At this point complaining about poor communication is like being beaten up in the street by a randomer and complaining that he's not talking you through what he's doing. 

[roversfan99]

As others have said, communication isnt the issue. We would "still be here now."

Good communication isnt an issue when reasonable decisions are made.

The departure and circumstances around it wouldn't need explaining had a good manager not decided that he simply could not work under these clowns anymore. The appointment of a terrible manager wouldn't need explaining had it not been done in the first place. And another season of shit recruitment wouldn't need explaining either.

[chaddyrovers]

50 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

As Matty suggests, if the club was run competently, we wouldn't need to hear from them aside from postive news like player signings.

Like it used to be back in the day.

The world has move on from those days. 

Clear, proper and quick communication with supporters is valid and making people feel part of their club and know is going on whether they like it or not 

[chaddyrovers]

4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

As others have said, communication isnt the issue. We would "still be here now."

Good communication isnt an issue when reasonable decisions are made.

The departure and circumstances around it wouldn't need explaining had a good manager not decided that he simply could not work under these clowns anymore. The appointment of a terrible manager wouldn't need explaining had it not been done in the first place. And another season of shit recruitment wouldn't need explaining either.

Communication is part of the issue under these owners and it has been many different situations. 

The Eustace situation was one example or why GB left and the plan was after or the Indian Court situation. Plus many other examples

Clean plan and communication with the supporters goes along way and explaining to us the supporters why decisions have been made. 

 

[roversfan99]

What does that even mean? 

Has the world "moved on" from a situation whereby all that matters is the correct decisions being made?

Certainly wouldn't be any consolation to me when say I am watching a poorly coached team or a poor set of players if they had explained the flawed process in the media or made a fancy video.

[Wheelton Blue]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

The world has move on from those days. 

Clear, proper and quick communication with supporters is valid and making people feel part of their club and know is going on whether they like it or not 

Moved on from what exactly?

You might do, but I'd argue that 99% of supporters don't give a toss about the nitty gritty behind the scenes. 

[Mattyblue]

If we were winning every week he wouldn’t give a feck about ‘communication’.

[roversfan99]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Communication is part of the issue under these owners and it has been many different situations. 

The Eustace situation was one example or why GB left and the plan was after or the Indian Court situation. Plus many other examples

Clean plan and communication with the supporters goes along way and explaining to us the supporters why decisions have been made. 

 

Would it make them decisions any less wrong? Would it make it any easier to witness the fallout from those terrible decisions?

No one would want explanations if we did anything right. 

[chaddyrovers]

46 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

Moved on from what exactly?

You might do, but I'd argue that 99% of supporters don't give a toss about the nitty gritty behind the scenes. 

from 15/20 years ago. Social media and online media is here and you can used to your benefit or not. Rovers should do more and communicate much better and communicate to your supporters. Waggott and Gestede should have been out there after Eustace left and when Ismael was appointed. Why Gestede was appointed. Etc etc

45 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Would it make them decisions any less wrong? Would it make it any easier to witness the fallout from those terrible decisions?

No one would want explanations if we did anything right. 

Its about open with what and why decisions have been made and communicate those decisions have been made to your club supporters. Its called effective communication with your stakeholders. 

[Wheelton Blue]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

from 15/20 years ago. Social media and online media is here and you can used to your benefit or not. Rovers should do more and communicate much better and communicate to your supporters. Waggott and Gestede should have been out there after Eustace left and when Ismael was appointed. Why Gestede was appointed. Etc etc

Its about open with what and why decisions have been made and communicate those decisions have been made to your club supporters. Its called effective communication with your stakeholders. 

So if they appointed say Pep as our next manager, sorry head coach, you'd want them to go online and explain to us and justify why they did so?

[roversfan99]

Or equally, if they came out and said why they made the bad decisions they did, would it make it any better?

Gestede did I think say for example why Ismael was supposedly appointed. Unfortunately, no matter what he says, he is a rubbish manager and the stuff he said was flawed.

[Mattyblue]

Why as Eustace left would Waggott being ‘out there’ spouting his usual lies have made anything any better? As a ‘stakeholder’ I’d rather he kept well away from a camera.

[K-Hod]

Communication doesn't matter if we're winning football matches.

Amongst all the nonsense and because the hierarchy don't seem to prioritise it, the priority of a football club is supposed to be winning football matches.

[Forever Blue]

When VI blames injuries for him never having won a game as Rovers manager I, as a stakeholder, am fully satisfied. 

[47er]

10 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

from 15/20 years ago. Social media and online media is here and you can used to your benefit or not. Rovers should do more and communicate much better and communicate to your supporters. Waggott and Gestede should have been out there after Eustace left and when Ismael was appointed. Why Gestede was appointed. Etc etc

Its about open with what and why decisions have been made and communicate those decisions have been made to your club supporters. Its called effective communication with your stakeholders. 

FAN Groups seeking meetings with the 3 Stooges are pissing in the wind. We want Venkys to sell but these guys depend on Venkys for a cushy living which they'd never get anywhere else and they know it. If Venkys go they go so their only modem operandus is to stall, deny, lie, divide the fans and continue to encourage Venkys that everything is in order.

Its a complete disconnect.

(Season ticket sales could be the deal-breaker.)

Edited Friday at 07:33 by 47er

[Tomphil2]

The priority here is to put wages and bonuses in certain pockets, guarantee and safeguard that first and foremost then the rest can follow.

[chaddyrovers]

13 hours ago, Wheelton Blue said:

So if they appointed say Pep as our next manager, sorry head coach, you'd want them to go online and explain to us and justify why they did so?

YES!!! 

Communicate to your supporters and stakeholders why you have made that appointment, budgets, etc. Effective communication

Communication is crucial and being open and honest about decisions, why people have left, why appointments have been made would help connect, etc, etc

For example if I appointed a new CEO, then he would do interviews with Rovers TV, Radio Lancs and LT, whilst me as the owner would do similar why they have been appointed and what they would bring the club and its stakeholders. Effective proper communication. 

[roversfan99]

Have you recently started a business course and learnt about stakeholders?

[Exiled_Rover]

38 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

YES!!! 

Communicate to your supporters and stakeholders why you have made that appointment, budgets, etc. Effective communication

Communication is crucial and being open and honest about decisions, why people have left, why appointments have been made would help connect, etc, etc

For example if I appointed a new CEO, then he would do interviews with Rovers TV, Radio Lancs and LT, whilst me as the owner would do similar why they have been appointed and what they would bring the club and its stakeholders. Effective proper communication. 

Does the communication have to be truthful? That might be a deal breaker for a Venkys owned Rovers...

[Wheelton Blue]

5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

YES!!! 

Communicate to your supporters and stakeholders why you have made that appointment, budgets, etc. Effective communication

Communication is crucial and being open and honest about decisions, why people have left, why appointments have been made would help connect, etc, etc

For example if I appointed a new CEO, then he would do interviews with Rovers TV, Radio Lancs and LT, whilst me as the owner would do similar why they have been appointed and what they would bring the club and its stakeholders. Effective proper communication. 

I must have missed Jack explaining to us why he had the audacity to sign Kenny....

[Ianrally]

8 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

I must have missed Jack explaining to us why he had the audacity to sign Kenny....

Of course he didn’t have to explain to us because he knew that we knew that he had the future of the club at heart. We believed in Jack and he believed in the fans. 

[Leonard Venkhater]

11 hours ago, 47er said:

FAN Groups seeking meetings with the 3 Stooges are pissing in the wind. We want Venkys to sell but these guys depend on Venkys for a cushy living which they'd never get anywhere else and they know it. If Venkys go they go so their only modem operandus is to stall, deny, lie, divide the fans and continue to encourage Venkys that everything is in order.

Its a complete disconnect.

(Season ticket sales could be the deal-breaker.)

Well, I am not renewing mine.

[chaddyrovers]

7 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Have you recently started a business course and learnt about stakeholders?

NOPE!!! Its basic business knowledge and understanding with your stakeholders in any businesses. A Football club is a business at the end of the day and need to be run as one

2 hours ago, Wheelton Blue said:

I must have missed Jack explaining to us why he had the audacity to sign Kenny....

Going back to a time when things were very different, English football wasn't a global brand, social media wasn't around and the amount of TV coverage and media focus wasn't what it is now. Our clubs are owned by a range of different people whether its Hollywood actors or NFL former star or owners from middle East, etc

[Mattyblue]

Still struggling to understand why being communicated more of Swag’s lies and deceptions would be a positive…