WATR (The Rovers Trust)

[rigger]

8 minutes ago, Andy said:

Just on this forum alone we have many experienced professionals who could step into either of their roles tomorrow and genuinely do a better job.

I would say we have inexperienced people who would do better jobs.

[TheRoversGRL]

Reflection

When I joined the trust, I wanted to help with social media and the communications aspect. Something which I love and enjoy to this day.  I wanted increase engagement with members and on social media. 

Yesterday, I took the decision to resign from the role because I can’t sit back and allow the club to die. I’m all for trying things; but statements won’t cut it from fans perspectives. They want action, someone to put their views too and I felt like WATR wasn’t acknowledging members views or reading the room. Fans and members alike have reached boiling point. 

WATR are not a protest group; nor I expect that to change. I don’t wish no malice or distress against other members, but what is a meeting going to achieve at this stage? Have we asked members what they want us to do? Have members been asked if they want the MOU ripped up? If the owners wanted to speak to anyone. They would have done it now. They don’t care about the club and neither do the people running it apart from a few.  If Steve cared, we should have got a meeting as soon as the January Transfer window was closed 

Yesterday could have been great. All supporters group together with one message.

Put down the tea and biscuits. Ask members what they want. This club needs new ownership.

[Upside Down]

WATR anthem.

Edited Saturday at 22:57 by Upside Down

[TheRoversGRL]

2 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

 

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[Upside Down]

Just now, TheRoversGRL said:

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Read the lyrics.

[Upside Down]

1 hour ago, TheRoversGRL said:

Reflection

When I joined the trust, I wanted to help with social media and the communications aspect. Something which I love and enjoy to this day.  I wanted increase engagement with members and on social media. 

Yesterday, I took the decision to resign from the role because I can’t sit back and allow the club to die. I’m all for trying things; but statements won’t cut it from fans perspectives. They want action, someone to put their views too and I felt like WATR wasn’t acknowledging members views or reading the room. Fans and members alike have reached boiling point. 

WATR are not a protest group; nor I expect that to change. I don’t wish no malice or distress against other members, but what is a meeting going to achieve at this stage? Have we asked members what they want us to do? Have members been asked if they want the MOU ripped up? If the owners wanted to speak to anyone. They would have done it now. They don’t care about the club and neither do the people running it apart from a few.  If Steve cared, we should have got a meeting as soon as the January Transfer window was closed 

Yesterday could have been great. All supporters group together with one message.

Put down the tea and biscuits. Ask members what they want. This club needs new ownership.

The Trust don't need to be a protest group.

That doesn't mean they're not able to show solidarity and support with protests and other forms of direct action.

They're currently losing credibility at an alarming rate with their isolationist stance here.

Still yet to hear a peep from them. Embarrassing really.

[DE.]

WATR/The Trust already called for Venky's to leave in their previous statement, so they seem to be broadly aligned with the general sentiment of the recent coalition of groups. It would be helpful for them to explain why they opted against being a part of the latest call to action, as otherwise it just allows speculation to grow. This could be harmful to WATR long-term if people begin withdrawing donations under assumptions that may not be true. I'd urge them to get their view of current events out there sooner rather than later. Transparency is always important, but even more so in the current climate.

[TheRoversGRL]

26 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

The Trust don't need to be a protest group.

That doesn't mean they're not able to show solidarity and support with protests and other forms of direct action.

They're currently losing credibility at an alarming rate with their isolationist stance here.

Still yet to hear a peep from them. Embarrassing really.

I wish they would speak. I can’t force them too.

 

[lraC]

I think Waggott is now using the Trust, in every sense of the word.

He is referring to constructive meetings, in his spiel defending himself against the latest uprising.

I think a statement needs to be made very quickly to explain why the trust are not backing the latest rebellion, or I fear the end. Not enough is being done to make life uncomfortable and the original intentions, are shot down now, when you look at what it was all about from the off. 

[TheRoversGRL]

6 minutes ago, lraC said:

I think Waggott is now using the Trust, in every sense of the word.

He is referring to constructive meetings, in his spiel defending himself against the latest uprising.

I think a statement needs to be made very quickly to explain why the trust are not backing the latest rebellion, or I fear the end. Not enough is being done to make life uncomfortable and the original intentions, are shot down now, when you look at what it was all about from the off. 

I think a statement needs to be put out asap. 

[glen9mullan]

20 hours ago, TheRoversGRL said:

Reflection

When I joined the trust, I wanted to help with social media and the communications aspect. Something which I love and enjoy to this day.  I wanted increase engagement with members and on social media. 

Yesterday, I took the decision to resign from the role because I can’t sit back and allow the club to die. I’m all for trying things; but statements won’t cut it from fans perspectives. They want action, someone to put their views too and I felt like WATR wasn’t acknowledging members views or reading the room. Fans and members alike have reached boiling point. 

WATR are not a protest group; nor I expect that to change. I don’t wish no malice or distress against other members, but what is a meeting going to achieve at this stage? Have we asked members what they want us to do? Have members been asked if they want the MOU ripped up? If the owners wanted to speak to anyone. They would have done it now. They don’t care about the club and neither do the people running it apart from a few.  If Steve cared, we should have got a meeting as soon as the January Transfer window was closed 

Yesterday could have been great. All supporters group together with one message.

Put down the tea and biscuits. Ask members what they want. This club needs new ownership.

Talking to the club has become a pointless exercise, it's also been used as a yardstick to claim supporter engagement 

The fans forum ain't spoken to them for near on 5 months. This is unacceptable, whilst the trust represents only it's membership base which is less than 1% of the supporter base 

There has been no meaningful communication from either the club or anyone meeting the club neariy all season.

We are at the point of no return, the club has clearly taken the wrong advice, and no amount of grovelling is going to change the landscape. Their approval rating is probably at the lowest of any administration the club has had, certainly in my life time of over 45 years.

We saw this week a shift, not since Shagnew have the fans took a stand. These cretins are pussy cats in comparison.

I genuinely think they thought approval to action would gather no traction,

They should of read the history books, as previous action as ended with the executives departure, and this will end the same way.

[TheRoversGRL]

40 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

Talking to the club has become a pointless exercise, it's also been used as a yardstick to claim supporter engagement 

The fans forum ain't spoken to them for near on 5 months. This is unacceptable, whilst the trust represents only it's membership base which is less than 1% of the supporter base 

There has been no meaningful communication from either the club or anyone meeting the club neariy all season.

We are at the point of no return, the club has clearly taken the wrong advice, and no amount of grovelling is going to change the landscape. Their approval rating is probably at the lowest of any administration the club has had, certainly in my life time of over 45 years.

We saw this week a shift, not since Shagnew have the fans took a stand. These cretins are pussy cats in comparison.

I genuinely think they thought approval to action would gather no traction,

They should of read the history books, as previous action as ended with the executives departure, and this will end the same way.

I don’t disagree with everything you have said. As you pointed out, the trust has a small membership base and I believe it will be smaller after the trust hasn’t backed the statement. 

[chaddyrovers]

23 minutes ago, TheRoversGRL said:

I don’t disagree with everything you have said. As you pointed out, the trust has a small membership base and I believe it will be smaller after the trust hasn’t backed the statement. 

Do you think the current WATR board is the right one for the Rovers trust and its objectives? 

[TheRoversGRL]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Do you think the current WATR board is the right one for the Rovers trust and its objectives? 

I think some have a heart and truly care about the club, but they need to read the room and be proactive in their approaches

[chaddyrovers]

10 minutes ago, TheRoversGRL said:

I think some have a heart and truly care about the club, but they need to read the room and be proactive in their approaches

Thanks for answering the question 👍

[lraC]

5 hours ago, TheRoversGRL said:

I think some have a heart and truly care about the club, but they need to read the room and be proactive in their approaches

I agree and for what it’s worth, think Waggott has manipulated certain people and destroyed the real reason that the trust was set up for initially.

[lraC]

8 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

Talking to the club has become a pointless exercise, it's also been used as a yardstick to claim supporter engagement 

The fans forum ain't spoken to them for near on 5 months. This is unacceptable, whilst the trust represents only it's membership base which is less than 1% of the supporter base 

There has been no meaningful communication from either the club or anyone meeting the club neariy all season.

We are at the point of no return, the club has clearly taken the wrong advice, and no amount of grovelling is going to change the landscape. Their approval rating is probably at the lowest of any administration the club has had, certainly in my life time of over 45 years.

We saw this week a shift, not since Shagnew have the fans took a stand. These cretins are pussy cats in comparison.

I genuinely think they thought approval to action would gather no traction,

They should have read the history books, as previous action as ended with the executives departure, and this will end the same way.

 I think I had my meeting with Waggott the same day that you and Mark Fish were seeing him, back in November 2023. He was more interested in whether or not I was recording him, than discussing, the real reasons, I was there.

As you say, talking to the club, has become a pointless exercise and I realised that back then.

For what it’s worth Waggott, accidentally copied me into an E Mail to his P A so That I knew what he was covering up, before the meeting, which was also the reason, he was worried about being recorded. 
I also got the impression that I was being recorded too, but that could be a touch of paranoia on my part.

[TheRoversGRL]

3 hours ago, lraC said:

I agree and for what it’s worth, think Waggott has manipulated certain people and destroyed the real reason that the trust was set up for initially.

100%. I agree.