[Archived] Don't know where to put this

[RV Blue]

Just now, McClarky said:

Told him? Coerced? Don't be silly. He might have suggested it in an interview but you can't coerce someone to do something without any authority or control.  Huddersfield did nothing wrong and Redknapp certainly didn't either.

Can't believe what I'm reading, absolutely shocking. Redknapp told/reccomended/coerced and opposition manager to break the EFL's rules. I would assume that Redknapp has more influence in the game than you think.

[McClarky]

Look up coerced in the dictionary and come back on. It's not what he did at all. I am not coercing you to do that btw, merely suggesting it.

[jim mk2]

 

 

4 hours ago, dave birch said:

“Dear Gordon
Many thanks for your e-mail the content of which is duly noted. Please be advised that I have been in contact with representatives of the Owners of Blackburn Rovers Football Club regarding events at Birmingham City on Saturday and shall be contacting The EFL to make our concerns known. In the meantime we shall have to along with others who could as a consequence of what happened at St Andrew’s be effected in the final shake-up await for the competitions governing body to determine if any sanctions / action should be taken. We shall as a club along with our supporters have to see what develops during the coming days as we prepare for our vitally important game at Griffin Park.
I thank you for contacting me at the club.
Kind regards.......................”

 

 

Assuming the above has been copied correctly it has been appallingly written with words missing, poor grammar and "effected" instead of affected.  More evidence of the calibre of people running Rovers at present.

[Leonard Venkhater]

Just now, RV Blue said:

Redknapp coerced an opposition manager to break the EFL's rules, simple as.

I know this is very wrong, but we need to choose our words carefully..."coerced?"..

[RV Blue]

Just now, Leonard Venkhater said:

I know this is very wrong, but we need to choose our words carefully..."coerced?"..

Redknapp is a dodgy @#/? who has a lot of influence in the game, I wouldn't be surprised... what ever you call it, reccommended/suggested/told etc. etc. Redknapp still broke the rules and should be punished.

[Leonard Venkhater]

Just now, McClarky said:

Told him? Coerced? Don't be silly. He might have suggested it in an interview but you can't coerce someone to do something without any authority or control.  Huddersfield did nothing wrong and Redknapp certainly didn't either.

Sorry, I replied before I saw this...headline in tomorrow's Sun

"Huddersfield, Harry and the Horse's Head!

[AllRoverAsia]

30 minutes ago, Batman. said:

Huddersfield can do as they please. I would expect us to look after ourselves were we in the same situation. Your fate is in your own hands over 46 games.

This screams of pathetic desperation.

In your world Venkys should be allowed to do as they please without complaint? After all they own us.

The complaint is that our fate has to an extent been taken out of our and Forest's and Brum's hands.

Like others I am amazed at the screams of pathetic condescending tripe.

[Batman.]

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

24 Requirement to Play Full Strength Sides in League Matches

24.1 Each Club shall play its full strength in all Matches played under the auspices of The League unless some satisfactory reason is given. In the event of the explanation not being deemed satisfactory the Board shall refer the matter to a Disciplinary Commission which has the power to impose such penalties as it shall think fit.

I know the rule, but it's a non-starter unfortunately. Who at the FA is qualified to start telling managers who their strongest team is? 

 

Just now, AllRoverAsia said:

In your world Venkys should be allowed to do as they please without complaint? After all they own us.

The complaint is that our fate has to an extent been taken out of our and Forest's and Brum's hands.

Like others I am amazed at the screams of pathetic condescending tripe.

Oh dear. When did I say Venkey's should be allowed to do what they want to the club? I said the Huddersfield manager can play whatever team he wants in order to look after his own club's prospects of getting promoted.

[AllRoverAsia]

Just now, Batman. said:

Oh dear. When did I say Venkey's should be allowed to do what they want to the club? I said the Huddersfield manager can play whatever team he wants in order to look after his own club's prospects of getting promoted.

Oh dear. Did I say you said  it? Answer is No.

[AllRoverAsia]

Just now, Batman. said:

I know the rule, but it's a non-starter unfortunately. Who at the FA is qualified to start telling managers who their strongest team is? 

Presumably if the FA were even interested they could check back on previous Wanger team selections. That would give an indication....

[blueboy3333]

Just now, Batman. said:

I know the rule, but it's a non-starter unfortunately. Who at the FA is qualified to start telling managers who their strongest team is? 

 

It's certainly a starter for the EFL, it's their rule.

The FA (?) EFL don't need to be qualified. They just need to look at the team sheet and ask why those players have only played once before all season, and the 10 players dropped have been virtually ever-present.

 

[AllRoverAsia]

23 minutes ago, McClarky said:

Even if they did anything, which they shouldn't, they would punish Huddersfueld not zBirmingham.  No chance of a replay then.  This is probably a throwback to the days before the huge squads everyone has now and needs to be changed as it's unenforceable. Who decides what a strongest side looks like anyway? Rovers under GB should have been fined for playing Brown while Gestede sat on the bench.

Damm right. Heavy fine and Bowyer sacked ok with me.

[arbitro]

Just now, Batman. said:

I know the rule, but it's a non-starter unfortunately. Who at the FA is qualified to start telling managers who their strongest team is? 

 

Oh dear. When did I say Venkey's should be allowed to do what they want to the club? I said the Huddersfield manager can play whatever team he wants in order to look after his own club's prospects of getting promoted.

Do you think Wagner will play that team in the play off semi-finals? Most of them won't even make the bench. There is a clear breach of rules here and they should be punished. If they aren't then the rule should be removed from the EFL regulations.

[LeChuck]

32 minutes ago, RV Blue said:

Redknapp told Wagner to rest his better players, thus telling him to not play a full strength team (which is against the EFL's rules).

First I've heard of this, massive if true. 

Where's the evidence Redknapp was involved? 

[Batman.]

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

It's certainly a starter for the EFL, it's their rule.

The FA (?) EFL don't need to be qualified. They just need to look at the team sheet and ask why those players have only played once before all season, and the 10 players dropped have been virtually ever-present.

 

I suspect Wagner can say "they have played 50 odd games and need a rest or they risk getting injured."

The FA rules also state you submit a 25 man squad to select from. The rule you are highlighting is, unfortunately, unenforceable.

[arbitro]

There is a precedent albeit in the PL.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/wolverhampton_wanderers/8521603.stm

[Speedie Dived]

I also thin it's a bit rich complaining about Huddersfield when Villa gave one of the most inept performances i have seen at Ewood and had fans cheering for us.

[AllRoverAsia]

Just now, Speedie Dived said:

I also thin it's a bit rich complaining about Huddersfield when Villa gave one of the most inept performances i have seen at Ewood and had fans cheering for us.

To be fair Steve Bruce was non too pleased with Villa's performance and called his players out in public post match.

The fan's were just banter exactly what we would do if we has the Dingles in a similar situation.

[blueboy3333]

Just now, Batman. said:

I suspect Wagner can say "they have played 50 odd games and need a rest or they risk getting injured."

The FA rules also state you submit a 25 man squad to select from. The rule you are highlighting is, unfortunately, unenforceable.

He could say that but, unfortunately for him, he'll just be laughed at. It won't be classed as a 'satisfactory reason'. You can't break the rules because of what you think might happen if you don't.

And from that 25 man squad you choose your strongest team. That's the EFL rule. Whether it's enforceable or not is irrelevant, unfortunately for Rovers, but it will be more 'enforceable' in future once Huddersfield are docked enough points for them to miss out on the play-offs

 

[AllRoverAsia]

Just now, LeChuck said:

First I've heard of this, massive if true. 

Where's the evidence Redknapp was involved? 

Rednapp was quoted on the BBC website and elsewhere pre and post match doing exactly that and then endorsing it.

He also was very critical if Villa's performance and called Villa fans 'sad' for cheering us.

[blueboy3333]

Just now, Speedie Dived said:

I also thin it's a bit rich complaining about Huddersfield when Villa gave one of the most inept performances i have seen at Ewood and had fans cheering for us.

That's not against the rules though. The rules are the only thing that matter in this case. The rest is just conjecture and opinion.

If 'inept performances' were against the rules BRFC would have been kicked out of the league a long time ago

[LeChuck]

Just now, AllRoverAsia said:

Rednapp was quoted on the BBC website and elsewhere pre and post match doing exactly thatcl and then endorsing it.

He also was very critical if Villa's performance and called Villa fans 'sad' for cheering us.

Oh, is that all? Disappointing. Huge difference between Redknapp telling Wagner to do it and simply supporting what Wagner has said/done. 

There isn't a single punishment that will involved Birmingham. Huddersfield will get off the hook, fined or docked points. None of those help us so we should forget about it and look to Sunday. 

[blueboy3333]

Just now, LeChuck said:

Oh, is that all? Disappointing. Huge difference between Redknapp telling Wagner to do it and simply supporting what Wagner has said/done. 

There isn't a single punishment that will involved Birmingham. Huddersfield will get off the hook, fined or docked points. None of those help us so we should forget about it and look to Sunday. 

He said it before the Brum v Huddersfield match.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/harry-redknapp-warns-playoff-bound-10319059

'This will be Huddersfield’s third game in a week. If I was in that position I’d be thinking about not wanting to lose my better players ahead of a four-team competition to get into the Premier League'

[LeChuck]

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

He said it before the Brum v Huddersfield match.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/harry-redknapp-warns-playoff-bound-10319059

'This will be Huddersfield’s third game in a week. If I was in that position I’d be thinking about not wanting to lose my better players ahead of a four-team competition to get into the Premier League'

It makes him a massive bell, not much else though. Certainly can't make Birmingham replay a fixture or deduct points from them for something like that. 

[JHRover]

8 minutes ago, Batman. said:

I suspect Wagner can say "they have played 50 odd games and need a rest or they risk getting injured."

The FA rules also state you submit a 25 man squad to select from. The rule you are highlighting is, unfortunately, unenforceable.

If it is unenforceable then how come the 'EFL' have asked Huddersfield to comment on it?

If it is unenforceable then why does it remain in the League rules and hasn't been removed?