JAL Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, K-Hod said: I'll guess that due to the cuts they were under-resourced... Would have thought that this is electoral dynamite to throw at the Conservatives in the run up to Thursday.
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Tyrone Shoelaces Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, JAL said: Would have thought that this is electoral dynamite to throw at the Conservatives in the run up to Thursday. Yeah, it'll be headline news in the Mail, Sun, Express, Telegraph, Times, tomorrow morning . Not.
Audax Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Oh well, I'm not going to get into the gun issue, both of these instances did not have guns involved from the culprits. So, that argument is a distraction.
Audax Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 It's not the silent majority, it's the silenced majority.
Audax Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 The security at the bar needed industrial strength pepper spray, they make it to fend off bears. That would have helped.
Audax Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Many were incarcerated during the troubles, now there is not that much conflict. I'd say beware of those arguments where people say it doesn't work. In France right now, rumour has it that dangerous individuals are now disappearing, per clandestine gaols or however. I don't see how many of these incidences one needs.
chaddyrovers Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Another Abbott car crash interview and didnt know much about the report from the shadow home secretary http://dailym.ai/2sKiI1l Here are 127 recommendations made to London mayor last October https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/mayoral/significant-and-wide-ranging-independent-report
chaddyrovers Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Its time we put barries between the road and walkaways. Would stop these people using vehicles as weapons
JBiz Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, chaddyrovers said: Another Abbott car crash interview Thought you'd left politics till Friday?
Baz Posted June 5, 2017 Author Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, chaddyrovers said: Another Abbott car crash interview and didnt know much about the report from the shadow home secretary http://dailym.ai/2sKiI1l Here are 127 recommendations made to London mayor last October https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/mayoral/significant-and-wide-ranging-independent-report Here's the mayors plan in response: https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/mayoral/mayors-new-plan-for-a-safer-london You'll note the continued cuts to the policing budget, and how he has had to divert funding from other areas to try and keep the police numbers as high as he can. Here Sadiq Khan's warning to the PM on terrorism in February: https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/mayoral/starkest-warning-yet Any comment on this Chaddy?
Backroom Tom Posted June 5, 2017 Backroom Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, chaddyrovers said: Its time we put barries between the road and walkaways. Would stop these people using vehicles as weapons On every road in England?
chaddyrovers Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, Biz said: Thought you'd left politics till Friday? Talking about measures to protect our major cities from terrorism and extremists Just now, Tom said: On every road in England? In major Cities like London, Manchester, Edinburgh, Cardiff, Birmingham, And accross every bridge in London.
chaddyrovers Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Security of our Cities is most important issue at the current time
Batman. Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Another Abbott car crash interview and didnt know much about the report from the shadow home secretary http://dailym.ai/2sKiI1l Here are 127 recommendations made to London mayor last October https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/mayoral/significant-and-wide-ranging-independent-report Do you only read one paper? You're as balanced as half an Octopus, but unfortunately not as politically astute.
Batman. Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Talking about measures to protect our major cities from terrorism and extremists A good start would be the scummy media not plastering the faces of the terrorists across their newspapers along with intricate details of how they instigated their attack. Also not using every headline possible to strike fear through people, therefore further encouraging copycat attacks. The only paper you read are the worst protagonists of this. But then you'd have nothing to compare them to.
Paul Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 7 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Its time we put barries between the road and walkaways. Would stop these people using vehicles as weapons This is already happening at large scale public events such as rock concerts. I have a good friend in the police force who has attended two such recent events as an audience member. My friend commented while the general public would not have noticed it was apparent both the positioning of and type of temporary barriers has been changed. I didn't ask how, I know there are points beyond which my friend will not comment. A key point for me is what happens which we, as members of the public, are unaware of. Increased policing, more obvious armed police, bag searches etc. are things we notice. It's the unnoticed actions which are more important just are the numerous occasions the authorities will identify and intercept suspects, sadly judgements have to be made and some will be missed. To my mind the Manchester and London terrorists will always be the hardest to catch. Clearly there was a degree of planning but the attacks, especially the London one, seem almost spontaneous which surely is harder to counter than known or suspected cells or individuals? Currently it's hard to see how the authorities are going to monitor every potential terrorist who makes an almost spur of the moment decision to attack.
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted June 6, 2017 Moderation Lead Posted June 6, 2017 9 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Another Abbott car crash interview and didnt know much about the report from the shadow home secretary http://dailym.ai/2sKiI1l Here are 127 recommendations made to London mayor last October https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/mayoral/significant-and-wide-ranging-independent-report Have you no comment on the Philip Hammond car-crash interview where he got his figures jumbled up and so wrong in fact, that by his calculations, you can feed every child in Britain for 6.8p per meal? Ah yes, of course you don't, it wasn't reported in The Daily Mail. Why would it be? It's almost like a Conservative supporting paper has an agenda..... You'd help yourself a lot Chaddy, if you had a deeper look into what's really going on, I'll be honest. Take 5 minutes away from here, have a Google and you'd be amazed at what you will find, instead of what is simply presented to you by media with vested interests.....
broadsword Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Why stop at guns? Guns are for soft lads. Lets arm our citizens with maces, halberds, lochaber axes, spears, nunchuks, garottes, pirate swords, throwing stars, crossbows, AK-47's, claymore mines, war hammers, pick axe handles, artificial limbs, bolas and itching powder. I'd sure feel safe at night walking down the street seeing everyone with some sort of weapon in their hand. "There is no throwing of ninja stars in the green zone. Please hand your ninja stars in at the nearest saloon bar. In case of terrorist attack, please use pirate weapons only. Thank you, and have a nice day."
Batman. Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Just now, broadsword said: Why stop at guns? Guns are for soft lads. Lets arm our citizens with maces, halberds, lochaber axes, spears, nunchuks, garottes, pirate swords, throwing stars, crossbows, AK-47's, claymore mines, war hammers, pick axe handles, artificial limbs, bolas and itching powder. I'd sure feel safe at night walking down the street seeing everyone with some sort of weapon in their hand. "There is no throwing of ninja stars in the green zone. Please hand your ninja stars in at the nearest saloon bar. In case of terrorist attack, please use pirate weapons only. Thank you, and have a nice day." Well if you don't trust citizenry....
broadsword Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 27 minutes ago, Batman. said: Well if you don't trust citizenry.... Did you spill my pint, slag? BANG
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 43 minutes ago, Suhail Slayer said: I watched Diane Abbott interview on TV last night. She was a complete disgrace. She could hardly speak let alone answer anything. Clueless. Corbyn is completely unelectable and thank god if he thinks this woman is fit for office. She isn't fit to make the office tea. Labour trying to blame cuts which are nothing to do with the situation. If the police responded and killed the 3rd one in 8 minutes then that's pretty good. The cuts are only there because of Labours overspending. Complete idiots that lot. Trying to make cheap gains on the back of terror. We need to round up these 3000 and send them to Guantanamo Bay and Donald's pleasure. They will be made safe there and I believe they have vacancies. Much cheaper than putting barriers everywhere or any other stupid idea. And I thought you only knew nothing about football.
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 46 minutes ago, broadsword said: Why stop at guns? Guns are for soft lads. Lets arm our citizens with maces, halberds, lochaber axes, spears, nunchuks, garottes, pirate swords, throwing stars, crossbows, AK-47's, claymore mines, war hammers, pick axe handles, artificial limbs, bolas and itching powder. I'd sure feel safe at night walking down the street seeing everyone with some sort of weapon in their hand. "There is no throwing of ninja stars in the green zone. Please hand your ninja stars in at the nearest saloon bar. In case of terrorist attack, please use pirate weapons only. Thank you, and have a nice day." Rochdale on a Saturday night-Sunday morning is like Dodge City now. It's only a year or two back some wanna be gangster took his car and drove it at speed past the front of two bars scattering drinkers everywhere. How somebody wasn't killed I just don't know. What it would be like if you armed the citizenry I shudder to think. I wouldn't mind the knob heads getting shot, it's the innocent bystanders I feel sorry for.
chaddyrovers Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Google refused to banned preachers videos http://dailym.ai/2rN8kbO Time for new laws to be brought in and force them to be banned.
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted June 6, 2017 Moderation Lead Posted June 6, 2017 16 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Google refused to banned preachers videos http://dailym.ai/2rN8kbO Time for new laws to be brought in and force them to be banned. Even if they were banned, they'd just end up on the dark web.....
chaddyrovers Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Just now, K-Hod said: Even if they were banned, they'd just end up on the dark web..... Well then lets do nothing then and keep letting these bombings happening. Do you have a way to stop them or just against every idea thats might stop these bombings?
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